Dear Dewey, Thank you so very much! I do know that our local LDS is not open tomorrow (Monday), but they are on Tuesday. I will make it a point to go right down there and get what information I can, or order the necessary microfilms. Thank you, Laura Clark -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Cline <dcline@cvn.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >Ms. Clark; > The LDS has all 93 rolls of the Dawes application and they are in order >by application number. If you have an application number on John, then use >the 1st roll which is the index to figure out which of the other 93 is the >roll you need to search. These applications have an enormous amount of >information from parents and all their children to grandparents and all >their children but most importantly it contains a direct link by name to the >Indian that is the source of the heritage. As far as BIA, all you need to >do is provide necessary documentation that you are related to any individual >in that lineage that is in a biological line of the enrollee...i.e., if you >have documentation on one of his brother's or sisters or aunt's or uncles, >the actual lineage is done then through them as the source of enrollment. >As far as Cherokee, if you have access to an LDS, its rather easy....Choctaw >which I believe most of the Riddles to be except the William F. line; >Seminole, Creek, etc, are a little more difficult but LDS is truly the place >to start. If you have access the the Haistains Land Tract books of Choctaw >lands there are 42 Riddles listed (one is John W. Riddle) and it gives the >actual plot of the land and their Choctaw enrollment number. > I probably said to much already, wish you luck. >Dewey Cline.....Still looking for J.P. Riddle (John Preston) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 4:26 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > >>Hey, everyone... >>I know that my John Riddle was part Indian. We have always been under the >>impression that he was Cherokee. I have not sent off for any solid >>information from the Dawes Rolls, or Millers Rolls. But I do have John's >>application numbers and his wife, Sarah Lundry's application numbers. >>I also remember that the BIA advised me in a letter that if they moved off >>the Indian property, they somehow lost their rights as Indians, that is. >>I have not attempted to get the proof, as the BIA wants proof of ancestry, >>which I do not have. I know certain facts, as they are proven. This is by >>marriage licenses, and by lore handed down to relatives that can still show >>us the right graves, and most of what they have said has panned out as >>truth. Maybe a couple of years off, but still the truth. Census reports >>have also proven ancestry. >>But when our John Riddle moved to Missouri, and then one of his sons (the >>only one we know about) moves down to Randolph County, Arkansas, this is >>where the proof is lost. The original court house burned down, and my >>grandmother could never prove when she was born, or to whom she was born. >>I now have a picture of my g-g-grandfather, thanks to a new cousin (Erv >>Riddle), and he does look like an Indian. Many have said he looks >>full-blooded Cherokee. My scanner is on the blitz, so I cannot scan this >>picture and put it on the net. Wish I could. There is also a picture of >>Meredith's daughter, Aunt Jennie Riddle White. She definitely does not >look >>like an Indian! Or at least not to me. >>So, if anyone has a way to check the Dawes Rolls without proving ancestry >or >>saying to which tribe or clan of which tribe, let me know. I will find >>those numbers again, and we can ascertain what the records say about this >>Riddle branch. >> >>Sincerely, >>Laura Clark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >> >> >>>I have records I found last month of William Riddle, a white man, who >>>married a Choctaw woman, Cathy. He was an interpreter for the Choctaw >>>nation and died in 1818. His sons and grandchildren are on the Choctaw >>>rolls right up to the 20th century. >>> >>>Mary Hill >>> >>>At 04:42 PM 7/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>>>Thanks Diane, it doesn't help now because I just don't know enough, but I >>>>will keep the info and it might come in handy later. There have been so >>many >>>>references to Riddles being at least part Cherokee that I believe that >>it's >>>>so. 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