Dear Cathie, I do remember, somehow, finding out about rolls...I think there was something on the internet about finding out which rolls a certain surname would be on. I got a new computer, and have not straightened things out completely, yet. But I do know the supposed roll numbers. Thanks again, Laura Clark -----Original Message----- From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >Laura, >You need to find out if they have a roll number or are on the reject >list. If you find a roll number, you can make application for >membership >in the tribe. > >The regional Federal Archives for this area is in Ft Worth, Tx >The Okla Historical Archives is another great source for Indian >research. I will stop in there today and see what kind of info >I can get on their holdings. They are one of the best archives >for Indian research. > >Cathie >-----Original Message----- >From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 11:13 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > >>Dear Cathie, >>thank you for that bit of information. However, I know that both John >H. >>Riddle and Sarah Lundry were both listed with application numbers. >>How does that affect our family? >>Laura Clark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> >>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 10:25 PM >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >> >> >>>Hi Laura, >>>The Western Cherokee Tribe dropped a member from their >>>roll if the person moved off the reservation and if they moved back >>>onto the reservation, they were added to the roll again. This was >>>very common where a Cherokee woman married a white man and >>>moved off the reservation with him. >>> >>>Good Luck, >>>Cathie >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> >>>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:26 PM >>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >>> >>> >>>>Hey, everyone... >>>>I know that my John Riddle was part Indian. We have always been >under >>>the >>>>impression that he was Cherokee. I have not sent off for any solid >>>>information from the Dawes Rolls, or Millers Rolls. But I do have >>>John's >>>>application numbers and his wife, Sarah Lundry's application numbers. >>>>I also remember that the BIA advised me in a letter that if they >moved >>>off >>>>the Indian property, they somehow lost their rights as Indians, that >>>is. >>>>I have not attempted to get the proof, as the BIA wants proof of >>>ancestry, >>>>which I do not have. I know certain facts, as they are proven. This >>>is by >>>>marriage licenses, and by lore handed down to relatives that can >still >>>show >>>>us the right graves, and most of what they have said has panned out >as >>>>truth. Maybe a couple of years off, but still the truth. Census >>>reports >>>>have also proven ancestry. >>>>But when our John Riddle moved to Missouri, and then one of his sons >>>(the >>>>only one we know about) moves down to Randolph County, Arkansas, this >>>is >>>>where the proof is lost. The original court house burned down, and >my >>>>grandmother could never prove when she was born, or to whom she was >>>born. >>>>I now have a picture of my g-g-grandfather, thanks to a new cousin >(Erv >>>>Riddle), and he does look like an Indian. Many have said he looks >>>>full-blooded Cherokee. My scanner is on the blitz, so I cannot scan >>>this >>>>picture and put it on the net. Wish I could. There is also a >picture >>>of >>>>Meredith's daughter, Aunt Jennie Riddle White. She definitely does >not >>>look >>>>like an Indian! Or at least not to me. >>>>So, if anyone has a way to check the Dawes Rolls without proving >>>ancestry or >>>>saying to which tribe or clan of which tribe, let me know. I will >find >>>>those numbers again, and we can ascertain what the records say about >>>this >>>>Riddle branch. >>>> >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Laura Clark >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >>>>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:36 PM >>>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have records I found last month of William Riddle, a white man, >who >>>>>married a Choctaw woman, Cathy. He was an interpreter for the >Choctaw >>>>>nation and died in 1818. His sons and grandchildren are on the >Choctaw >>>>>rolls right up to the 20th century. >>>>> >>>>>Mary Hill >>>>> >>>>>At 04:42 PM 7/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>>>>>Thanks Diane, it doesn't help now because I just don't know enough, >>>but I >>>>>>will keep the info and it might come in handy later. There have >been >>>so >>>>many >>>>>>references to Riddles being at least part Cherokee that I believe >>>that >>>>it's >>>>>>so. 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