Stan.....we are Family ( just not all connected .........yet) Most of us "old listers" have come to treasure and respect what Mary has to offer in our quest for missing Riddles in our Tree's. But there are many others who offer help or suggestions that may or may not help someone, that is the nature of this beast you can never know when a bit of info might just come back to be of interest to your line. Everyone on this list is willing to share but there are some dead-ends that haven't been unblocked yet. Hopefully with all the new members on the list new information may surface...... a new family bible or some record that has been missed that helps someone. Maybe something for you one of these days. I have learned that genealogy research is WORK and the best rewards are something you find on your on whether it is searching the census or birth and death records, land grants, will's, etc. So, Stan offer what you have from time to time and see what happens. But continue your own research. Just don't ever "Bash" Mary. Mary is not of my line but from time to time if I give her a reference she will do a look-up for me at FHC and she shares with us all. Danny Riddle ddr45@msn.com www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/i/d/Danny-D-Riddle/