Dear Cathie, thank you for that bit of information. However, I know that both John H. Riddle and Sarah Lundry were both listed with application numbers. How does that affect our family? Laura Clark -----Original Message----- From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >Hi Laura, >The Western Cherokee Tribe dropped a member from their >roll if the person moved off the reservation and if they moved back >onto the reservation, they were added to the roll again. This was >very common where a Cherokee woman married a white man and >moved off the reservation with him. > >Good Luck, >Cathie >-----Original Message----- >From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:26 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > >>Hey, everyone... >>I know that my John Riddle was part Indian. We have always been under >the >>impression that he was Cherokee. I have not sent off for any solid >>information from the Dawes Rolls, or Millers Rolls. But I do have >John's >>application numbers and his wife, Sarah Lundry's application numbers. >>I also remember that the BIA advised me in a letter that if they moved >off >>the Indian property, they somehow lost their rights as Indians, that >is. >>I have not attempted to get the proof, as the BIA wants proof of >ancestry, >>which I do not have. I know certain facts, as they are proven. This >is by >>marriage licenses, and by lore handed down to relatives that can still >show >>us the right graves, and most of what they have said has panned out as >>truth. Maybe a couple of years off, but still the truth. Census >reports >>have also proven ancestry. >>But when our John Riddle moved to Missouri, and then one of his sons >(the >>only one we know about) moves down to Randolph County, Arkansas, this >is >>where the proof is lost. The original court house burned down, and my >>grandmother could never prove when she was born, or to whom she was >born. >>I now have a picture of my g-g-grandfather, thanks to a new cousin (Erv >>Riddle), and he does look like an Indian. Many have said he looks >>full-blooded Cherokee. My scanner is on the blitz, so I cannot scan >this >>picture and put it on the net. Wish I could. There is also a picture >of >>Meredith's daughter, Aunt Jennie Riddle White. She definitely does not >look >>like an Indian! Or at least not to me. >>So, if anyone has a way to check the Dawes Rolls without proving >ancestry or >>saying to which tribe or clan of which tribe, let me know. I will find >>those numbers again, and we can ascertain what the records say about >this >>Riddle branch. >> >>Sincerely, >>Laura Clark >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:36 PM >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >> >> >>>I have records I found last month of William Riddle, a white man, who >>>married a Choctaw woman, Cathy. He was an interpreter for the Choctaw >>>nation and died in 1818. His sons and grandchildren are on the Choctaw >>>rolls right up to the 20th century. >>> >>>Mary Hill >>> >>>At 04:42 PM 7/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>>>Thanks Diane, it doesn't help now because I just don't know enough, >but I >>>>will keep the info and it might come in handy later. There have been >so >>many >>>>references to Riddles being at least part Cherokee that I believe >that >>it's >>>>so. Charlotte A. >>>> >>>> >>>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >>>> Do you have an idea for this space? >>>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! >>>> rebecca@collector.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >>> Do you have an idea for this space? >>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! >>> rebecca@collector.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- >> We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... >> What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? >> You'll never know unless you post again! >> RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > >