Laura, You need to find out if they have a roll number or are on the reject list. If you find a roll number, you can make application for membership in the tribe. The regional Federal Archives for this area is in Ft Worth, Tx The Okla Historical Archives is another great source for Indian research. I will stop in there today and see what kind of info I can get on their holdings. They are one of the best archives for Indian research. Cathie -----Original Message----- From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >Dear Cathie, >thank you for that bit of information. However, I know that both John H. >Riddle and Sarah Lundry were both listed with application numbers. >How does that affect our family? >Laura Clark >-----Original Message----- >From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 10:25 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > >>Hi Laura, >>The Western Cherokee Tribe dropped a member from their >>roll if the person moved off the reservation and if they moved back >>onto the reservation, they were added to the roll again. This was >>very common where a Cherokee woman married a white man and >>moved off the reservation with him. >> >>Good Luck, >>Cathie >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> >>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:26 PM >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >> >> >>>Hey, everyone... >>>I know that my John Riddle was part Indian. We have always been under >>the >>>impression that he was Cherokee. I have not sent off for any solid >>>information from the Dawes Rolls, or Millers Rolls. But I do have >>John's >>>application numbers and his wife, Sarah Lundry's application numbers. >>>I also remember that the BIA advised me in a letter that if they moved >>off >>>the Indian property, they somehow lost their rights as Indians, that >>is. >>>I have not attempted to get the proof, as the BIA wants proof of >>ancestry, >>>which I do not have. I know certain facts, as they are proven. This >>is by >>>marriage licenses, and by lore handed down to relatives that can still >>show >>>us the right graves, and most of what they have said has panned out as >>>truth. Maybe a couple of years off, but still the truth. Census >>reports >>>have also proven ancestry. >>>But when our John Riddle moved to Missouri, and then one of his sons >>(the >>>only one we know about) moves down to Randolph County, Arkansas, this >>is >>>where the proof is lost. The original court house burned down, and my >>>grandmother could never prove when she was born, or to whom she was >>born. >>>I now have a picture of my g-g-grandfather, thanks to a new cousin (Erv >>>Riddle), and he does look like an Indian. Many have said he looks >>>full-blooded Cherokee. My scanner is on the blitz, so I cannot scan >>this >>>picture and put it on the net. Wish I could. There is also a picture >>of >>>Meredith's daughter, Aunt Jennie Riddle White. She definitely does not >>look >>>like an Indian! Or at least not to me. >>>So, if anyone has a way to check the Dawes Rolls without proving >>ancestry or >>>saying to which tribe or clan of which tribe, let me know. I will find >>>those numbers again, and we can ascertain what the records say about >>this >>>Riddle branch. >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Laura Clark >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >>>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:36 PM >>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection >>> >>> >>>>I have records I found last month of William Riddle, a white man, who >>>>married a Choctaw woman, Cathy. He was an interpreter for the Choctaw >>>>nation and died in 1818. His sons and grandchildren are on the Choctaw >>>>rolls right up to the 20th century. >>>> >>>>Mary Hill >>>> >>>>At 04:42 PM 7/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>>>>Thanks Diane, it doesn't help now because I just don't know enough, >>but I >>>>>will keep the info and it might come in handy later. There have been >>so >>>many >>>>>references to Riddles being at least part Cherokee that I believe >>that >>>it's >>>>>so. 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