Carol et al.... First -- List - sorry for use of bandwith... I can't give you proof, but I can give you some good sources. -- Jodie desc. of William Thomas Riddle Note: (some people use Tory for the T, but it's only for quick identification. Tory is not his middle name!) - Let me know if you have any problem "surfing' to online sources! - Jodie Assumption # 1: Moses Ridley and William Ridley are assumed to be Father/Son based on this document below, family migration pattern and birthdates from other documents. source: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/tith.htm> A List of Tithables for Pittsylvania County Taken by John Wilson, Gentl, in Year 1767 John Stone & son JohnGeorge Lumpkin, son Robert & son George, John Travis, negroes Jack & BettyAbsolom Bostick, negro PatoNathan BostickThomas Garner, negroes Harry, Lillis, Cate & PegWilliam SheltonJohn MacMillionWilliam MunkersRichard ArdinDaniel SallahanJohn Yates & son John, negroes Bob & CateCharles LittleBarsheba Beverly (Mulato)Moses Ridle (Indian), William Ridle,John WynneRobt. WorshamJohn FerrolDavid LayRobert MacconowayJohn SimmonsZachariah ScagsHenry Stone and son William, Mason Combs, negro SarahHenry Greens LandJohn Owen & Sons William & John, negro Sameorge Holms Gwin, negroes Lill, Lucy, Fillis & GwinDextrous MusickWilliam NelsonJames SartainPeter GrimstedJohn Owen (Cain Cr)Small Wood OwenTimothy Stamps, John Stamps & Thomas StampsBenjamine Thrasher & negro LuckWm. W. HodgesGoram BrownWilliam WatsonWilliam RiceIsiah Watkins & Edward Lester (Miller)Peter Perkins and James, son, negroes Lownon & HannahJohn Wilson, negroes, viz; Roger, Will, Charles, Isaac, Betty, Lin & DollIsaac SartainRichard AdamsValentine Hatcher & negroes Matt, Beck and CharlesDavid Stephins Assumption #2: Jack Goins is a descendant of William Thomas Riddle's daughter Harriet Riddle Fisher. He has written several books. One is sited below. "In the Riddle family of Utah there is a tradition that the family was of "Portugee" ancestry, which is a common tradition among people of Melungeon ancestry. See also Jack H. Goins, "Melungeon Families - Sizemore, Minor, Goins, Fisher and Riddle," Families of Hawkins County, Tennessee (1786-1994), (Rogersville, Tn. : Hawkins County Genealogical and Historical Society, 1994), pp. 537-540. 1752 Grandville Co NC: Thomas Collins received a land grant on the Flatt River on Dials Creek. Witnesses were Paul Collins, George Gibson and Moses Riddle. Assumption #3: Orange County tax listed several Melungeon families, or their descendants, who later came to Newman Ridge: Gedion Bunch, Micajer Bunch, Thomas Collins, Samuel Collins, John Collins, Moses and Mary Ridley (Riddle), Thomas Gibson, Charles Gibson, George Gibson, and Mager Gibson. All of the above were listed as mulattoes. *Mulattoes back then meant "not pure white". *Newman Ridge is in Hawkins Co. TN; Assumption #4: William's wife Happy returned to Hawkins Co TN after William and son were hung. Moses & Mary lived there too! Happy still had the small children to care for; she remarried to William Ingraham [ William Ingram (Ingraham) were signers of the petition to form Lee County, Va. Ingraham was married to Happy Riddle, widow of William Riddle.] source: <A HREF="http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html"> http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html</A> Source: http://www.jimcal.com/Riddle%20Researchers.htm#Thomas > Family Line: William Thomas Riddle, b. abt. 1740, m. Harriet "Happy" Rogers > Roberts. Some researchers of this family believe that William was a Tory > Captain and lived in VA, conducted raids into NC during the Revolutionary > War and was hung in Wilkes Co., NC. Other researchers believe William was > an American patriot and served under Gen. Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion, was > captured by the British and hung in Augusta, GA. After the death of > William, his wife "Happy" and their children moved west to Tennessee. > William's descendants continued their western migration to TX, UT, and > IN.Be sure and read these past articles dealing with William Thomas Riddle > that appeared in the Riddle Newsletters.<A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v02is02.htm#p1">Captain Riddle Hanged in > Wilkesboro, NC</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is01.htm#Tory">William Thomas Riddle – Tory or Patriot?</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is02.htm#Tory">The Tory Oak Is Gone</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#William">William Riddle 1740 - 1781</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip to Tennessee, NC and VA</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is02.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip</A> It is strongly recommended that anyone interested in the William Thomas Riddle family should obtain a copy of Mary Hill's research report that deals with the William Thomas Riddle family. The William Riddle 1740-1781 article above is but a small portion of Mary's research paper.  Mary will be happy to supply a copy for the cost of reproduction plus shipping in the amount of $20.00.Contact: Mary E.V. Hill 1052 Briar Ave. Provo, UT 84604 Phone: 801-373-5203 E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:maryevhill@home.com">maryevhill@home.com</A> Web Site: <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/l/Mary--E-Hill/">Mary E.V. Hill Family Home Page</A>James I. Riddle III 4247 Goodfellow Dr. Dallas, TX 75229-2815 E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:jriddle@onramp.net">jriddle@onramp.net</A>Chauncey C. Riddle 1146 Birch Lane Provo, Utah 84604 <A HREF="mailto:cbr13@netutah.net">cbr13@netutah.net</A> In a message dated 2/13/2003 6:46:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > Carol I did not find proof; saw the posting from Riddle list rootsweb. I can > not find my Green Joseph Riddle's line Ala. frances > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol seal" <carols@pldi.net> > To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > > >Frances, > > > >Family of William and Harriet Riddle. I have been searching the > >connection between Moses and William for years. Where did you find > >proof that William's father was Moses and that he had a son named > >Moses that was hung with him in Wilkesboro? Also, where did you find > >proof that his middle name was Thomas? > > > >My great Aunt did research on the Riddle family many years (before > >home computers) and in her documentation she writes that his name was > >William Thomas Riddle. I could never find proof. > > > >Thanks for any help. > > > >Carol > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Frances Wimberly <Cats@personalcomputer.net> > >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:46 PM > >Subject: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > > > > >>thank you for the reply. frances > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <Dayjovu@aol.com> > >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:15 PM > >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] William T Riddle b. 1740 > >> > >> > >>>In a message dated 1/27/2003 8:15:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >>>Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > >>> > >>>>Is this the > >>>>Tory who was hanged with his son by that mean crooked judge? I > >jsut (sp) > >>>>can't get it straight. frances > >>>> > >>> > >>>Frances > >>>Yes, William Thomas Riddle was hung on the "Tory Oak"; however, > >given that > >>>his "group" was part Native American, at the time the British were > >>promising > >>>much to NA that the "colonist" were not. William's wife remarried > >shortly > >>>after. The reason it's suspected that William T's father was > >Moses > >>>Ridley/Riddle is because William had a son named Moses who was > >about 15 > >>when > >>>he and his father were killed. -- Jodie > >>> > >>> > >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email > >to: > >>>RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > >>>RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > >>go to: > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > >political > >>announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > >flames, > >>etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > >removal. > >> > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > >Whispers from the Past..... > >http://www.susanblackmon.com > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >