Jim I can't really answer your question without a aprox. birthdate/place of "your" John Riddle m. to Mary (possibly) Higgins. The info I have on the John Riddle son of William T Riddle [b. 1740 in Flatt River, Orange CO, NC {<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymercer/grants.html">http://www.rootsweb.com/~kymercer/grants.html</A> } is from Mary V. Hill, Utah, a professional genealogist who researched the grandson of William T. Riddle who became a Morman. The other source I have annotated is "The Riddle, Riddell, Ruddel Trail" by Nettie Benson. But I no longer have the book as it was thru library loan. Wasn't the original discussion on John Riddle born February 10, 1775? Book Notes for John Riddle: John was apparently left behind when his mother remarried and moved to Tennessee. He was bound at the age of seven in May, 1782, to James Newell until he reached the age of twenty-one. Before he reached that age Newell was ordered to teach him to read, write and cipher to "the rule of three" and at age 21 to pay him the sum of twenty pounds.("The Riddle, Riddell, Ruddel Trail" by Nettie Benson) Children of William Thomas Riddle and Harriet "Happy" Jane Rodgers (Note: Parents are speculated to be Moses Riddle + Mary Gibson listed as "Indian" in early Pittsylvania List of Tithables.): Marriage 1 Harriet RODGERS Married: 1770 in PITTSLYVANIA? CO VA Married: 1770 in Virginia Children Moses RIDDLE James RIDDLE b: 1773 in Montgomery Co., VA John RIDDLE b: 10 Feb 1775 in Montgomery Co., VA Isaac William RIDDLE b: Apr 1777 in Montgomery Co, VA Joseph l. RIDDLE b: Apr 1777 in Montgomery Co, VA Harriet RIDDLE b: 1780 in Montgomery Co., VA Thomas RIDDLE b: 1782 In a message dated 2/10/2003 4:10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, Riddjandd@aol.com writes: > Jodie------when you say that you are descended from Joseph Riddle, John's > brother, are you talking about John Riddle who married Mary Higgins, or > some > other John Riddle----we were not aware of any brothers of John------Jim > Riddle, descended from Harrison Riddle, son of John and Mary > >