Hi Don - saw your message on the Riddle digest and I am would also like for you to send me the pages that you have. I know everyone is bombarding you wanting copies, so I will understand if I dont receive it right away. But I would really like to have a copy of them. Thanks so very much. Loretta Courtney Riddle >From: "Don Riddle" <driddle@infowest.com> >Reply-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:16 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from cpimssmtpa67.msn.com ([207.46.181.147]) by >mc4-f20.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 13 >Jan 2003 23:40:17 -0800 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by >cpimssmtpa67.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 13 Jan >2003 23:35:10 -0800 >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id >h0E7c4tC002557;Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:04 -0700 >X-MSN-Trace: {5892CCC6-2ECF-4836-84BF-2F9F1229EE92} >Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:04 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: driddle@infowest.com Tue Jan 14 00:38:03 2003 >Message-ID: <011801c2bb9f$e7bc32a0$321dbed8@don> >Old-To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >References: <114.1d7b7971.2b54bed0@aol.com> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >Resent-Message-ID: <6oTOQD.A.tn.c57I-@lists5.rootsweb.com> >Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10011 >X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com >Return-Path: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 07:35:11.0046 (UTC) >FILETIME=[7830E660:01C2BB9F] > >Russ - I've corresponded with you in the past. Re: Fred Plum - I have no >knowledge of a book. I have three pages of handwritten information on the >"Riddles from Scotland to Virginia Colony America" which was supposedly >written by Fred Plum to my Great Aunt Lizzie Riddle Mann. According to Mr. >Plum, although there is nothing to back up his assertion, Thomas Riddle was >born in Scotland about 1740 and died in Georgia (Hanged by England). If >anyone is interested in Mr. Plum's writings I will be glad to forward them. > >Don Riddle - Utah >ggggGrandson of William Thomas Riddle >(I think) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <ChoctawSon@aol.com> >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:16 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > > Hello Charles, > > > > I have had the same question regarding William (T.) Riddle, as to where >he > > was born? There is a book by an author Fred Plum written some years >ago. >I > > do not have this book ... haven't been able to get a copy of it, if any >one > > knows how I could get a copy of this book let me know? I don't know >whether > > this book gives any evidence to verify his coming from Scotland but that >is > > what that book says! And, I think it is the source of this information >I > > believe. Or, so it is my understanding. Any one have any INFO on this > > subject of Wm. (T.) Riddle's place of birth???? > > > > I am a descendant of Isaac Riddle, and he married Anna Grizzel as their > > tombstone even shows ... as well the Grizzel Descendant website shows he > > married her with many, many, many, many Grizzel and of course from their > > marriage Riddle descendants. Wish I could get that record without >trying >to > > print it all. Not to mention (their marriage info.) also comes from >many > > records family descendants have keep ... researchers have >recorded/found. > > But I think their tombstone suffices to answer that question. Not, >heard >of > > there being a second wife? > > > > As to the issue of Wm. RIDDLE postion in the Rev. War as a >Loyalist/Tory. >It > > is my view -- but I don't think about which side was right(?) in 'a >country > > divided against it's self' like in the Civil War and Rev. War. I think >it > > only becomes a B/W issue to some only after the fact -- as far as >history >is > > concerned (and) there was a winning side then they are more often >labeled > > the good guys. (As to the historical issue of Cowboys & Indians, I will >not > > make a comment at this point). > > I did however liked the Mel Gibson movie about the Rev. War ... and >I >do > > have other ancestors on my Stephenson family tree of ancestors, and some > > distant Sparks lines that fought on the winning side of the Rev. War >too. > > Just my "two cents" on a 'Land or peoples on that land, divided against >it's > > self.' Although, we all have our bias I am sure ... and everyone >involved >in > > wars of history had reasons for what they did ... There are good guys, >and > > bad guys on all sides. Thanks for writting Charles. > > > > Regards, > > Russ Merryman > > ------------ > > > > In a message dated 01/13/2003 8:05:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > carols@pldi.net writes: > > > > > Subj: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > Date: 01/13/2003 8:05:46 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > From: <A HREF="mailto:carols@pldi.net">carols@pldi.net</A> > > > Reply-to: <A >HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > > To: <A HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been reading your mail about the Willliam Riddle family.b 1740 > > > (or earlier). I am a direct descendant of John Riddle, b 10 Feb 1775, > > > M. Sarah (Sary) Johnson. John is an older brother of your Isaac. I > > > believe I have corresponded with you before. My question is - have > > > you confirmed where William, b 1740, was born? I show either Flatt > > > River, Orange County, Va or Scotland. I cannot find a ship record of > > > his coming to the Americas. > > > > > > When did your Isaac move to Texas? I have him still living in Mo > > > 1834 where he voted along with Jesse and Emanuel. Was he married to > > > Anna Grizzel and Grusida Gisser? Carol ---- Original Message ----- > > > From: <CharlesGenUK@aol.com> > > > To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:44 AM > > > Subject: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > > > > > > > >Joseph L. Riddle was the twin of my ancestor > > > >Isaac William Riddle > > > >Born: April 1777 (Montgomery County, Virginia) > > > >Died: 30 November 1861 (Titus County, Texas) > > > >Married: 21 May 1801 (Russell County, Tennessee?) > > > > > > > >Some unreliable sources had their birth year as 1775 but it was > > > 1777. > > > > > > > >Jodie, the twins went with their mother (Happy Rogers Riddle) to > > > Tennessee > > > >where she remarried. A lot of families, caught on the wrong side of > > > the > > > >American Revolution, went to Kentucky and Tennessee to leave behind > > > the past. > > > >Happy died about 1784 in Kyles Ford, Hawkins Co., Tennessee at about > > > the age > > > >of 36. The twins' father was William Riddle who was hung in the > > > Spring of > > > >1781 in either Watauga Co. or Wilkesboro, North Carolina by a > > > corrupt > > > >colonial leader (yes there were good and bad on both sides, it was > > > not as > > > >black and white as the textbooks tell us). There is more to this > > > story than > > > >just William being on the Loyalist side during the Revolution. > > > > > > > >Charles > > > > > > > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > >To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email > > > to: > > > >RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > > >RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > records, go to: > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > > > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, > > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, >go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com >Whispers from the Past..... >http://www.susanblackmon.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
THERE IS RECORDS OF RIDDLE'S COMING TO AMERICA. IN 1623 ON THE SHIP ANNE. Loretta Riddle wrote: > Hi Don - saw your message on the Riddle digest and I am would also like for > you to send me the pages that you have. I know everyone is bombarding you > wanting copies, so I will understand if I dont receive it right away. But I > would really like to have a copy of them. Thanks so very much. Loretta > Courtney Riddle > > >From: "Don Riddle" <driddle@infowest.com> > >Reply-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:16 -0700 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from cpimssmtpa67.msn.com ([207.46.181.147]) by > >mc4-f20.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 13 > >Jan 2003 23:40:17 -0800 > >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([207.40.200.41]) by > >cpimssmtpa67.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 13 Jan > >2003 23:35:10 -0800 > >Received: (from slist@localhost)by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id > >h0E7c4tC002557;Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:04 -0700 > >X-MSN-Trace: {5892CCC6-2ECF-4836-84BF-2F9F1229EE92} > >Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:04 -0700 > >X-Original-Sender: driddle@infowest.com Tue Jan 14 00:38:03 2003 > >Message-ID: <011801c2bb9f$e7bc32a0$321dbed8@don> > >Old-To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >References: <114.1d7b7971.2b54bed0@aol.com> > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > >Resent-Message-ID: <6oTOQD.A.tn.c57I-@lists5.rootsweb.com> > >Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > >X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10011 > >X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > >Precedence: list > >Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Return-Path: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 07:35:11.0046 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[7830E660:01C2BB9F] > > > >Russ - I've corresponded with you in the past. Re: Fred Plum - I have no > >knowledge of a book. I have three pages of handwritten information on the > >"Riddles from Scotland to Virginia Colony America" which was supposedly > >written by Fred Plum to my Great Aunt Lizzie Riddle Mann. According to Mr. > >Plum, although there is nothing to back up his assertion, Thomas Riddle was > >born in Scotland about 1740 and died in Georgia (Hanged by England). If > >anyone is interested in Mr. Plum's writings I will be glad to forward them. > > > >Don Riddle - Utah > >ggggGrandson of William Thomas Riddle > >(I think) > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <ChoctawSon@aol.com> > >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:16 PM > >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > > > > > Hello Charles, > > > > > > I have had the same question regarding William (T.) Riddle, as to where > >he > > > was born? There is a book by an author Fred Plum written some years > >ago. > >I > > > do not have this book ... haven't been able to get a copy of it, if any > >one > > > knows how I could get a copy of this book let me know? I don't know > >whether > > > this book gives any evidence to verify his coming from Scotland but that > >is > > > what that book says! And, I think it is the source of this information > >I > > > believe. Or, so it is my understanding. Any one have any INFO on this > > > subject of Wm. (T.) Riddle's place of birth???? > > > > > > I am a descendant of Isaac Riddle, and he married Anna Grizzel as their > > > tombstone even shows ... as well the Grizzel Descendant website shows he > > > married her with many, many, many, many Grizzel and of course from their > > > marriage Riddle descendants. Wish I could get that record without > >trying > >to > > > print it all. Not to mention (their marriage info.) also comes from > >many > > > records family descendants have keep ... researchers have > >recorded/found. > > > But I think their tombstone suffices to answer that question. Not, > >heard > >of > > > there being a second wife? > > > > > > As to the issue of Wm. RIDDLE postion in the Rev. War as a > >Loyalist/Tory. > >It > > > is my view -- but I don't think about which side was right(?) in 'a > >country > > > divided against it's self' like in the Civil War and Rev. War. I think > >it > > > only becomes a B/W issue to some only after the fact -- as far as > >history > >is > > > concerned (and) there was a winning side then they are more often > >labeled > > > the good guys. (As to the historical issue of Cowboys & Indians, I will > >not > > > make a comment at this point). > > > I did however liked the Mel Gibson movie about the Rev. War ... and > >I > >do > > > have other ancestors on my Stephenson family tree of ancestors, and some > > > distant Sparks lines that fought on the winning side of the Rev. War > >too. > > > Just my "two cents" on a 'Land or peoples on that land, divided against > >it's > > > self.' Although, we all have our bias I am sure ... and everyone > >involved > >in > > > wars of history had reasons for what they did ... There are good guys, > >and > > > bad guys on all sides. Thanks for writting Charles. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Russ Merryman > > > ------------ > > > > > > In a message dated 01/13/2003 8:05:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, > > > carols@pldi.net writes: > > > > > > > Subj: Re: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > > Date: 01/13/2003 8:05:46 AM Pacific Standard Time > > > > From: <A HREF="mailto:carols@pldi.net">carols@pldi.net</A> > > > > Reply-to: <A > >HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > > > To: <A HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been reading your mail about the Willliam Riddle family.b 1740 > > > > (or earlier). I am a direct descendant of John Riddle, b 10 Feb 1775, > > > > M. Sarah (Sary) Johnson. John is an older brother of your Isaac. I > > > > believe I have corresponded with you before. My question is - have > > > > you confirmed where William, b 1740, was born? I show either Flatt > > > > River, Orange County, Va or Scotland. I cannot find a ship record of > > > > his coming to the Americas. > > > > > > > > When did your Isaac move to Texas? I have him still living in Mo > > > > 1834 where he voted along with Jesse and Emanuel. Was he married to > > > > Anna Grizzel and Grusida Gisser? Carol ---- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <CharlesGenUK@aol.com> > > > > To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:44 AM > > > > Subject: [RIDDLE] Re: RIDDLE-D Digest V03 #2 > > > > > > > > > > > > >Joseph L. Riddle was the twin of my ancestor > > > > >Isaac William Riddle > > > > >Born: April 1777 (Montgomery County, Virginia) > > > > >Died: 30 November 1861 (Titus County, Texas) > > > > >Married: 21 May 1801 (Russell County, Tennessee?) > > > > > > > > > >Some unreliable sources had their birth year as 1775 but it was > > > > 1777. > > > > > > > > > >Jodie, the twins went with their mother (Happy Rogers Riddle) to > > > > Tennessee > > > > >where she remarried. A lot of families, caught on the wrong side of > > > > the > > > > >American Revolution, went to Kentucky and Tennessee to leave behind > > > > the past. > > > > >Happy died about 1784 in Kyles Ford, Hawkins Co., Tennessee at about > > > > the age > > > > >of 36. The twins' father was William Riddle who was hung in the > > > > Spring of > > > > >1781 in either Watauga Co. or Wilkesboro, North Carolina by a > > > > corrupt > > > > >colonial leader (yes there were good and bad on both sides, it was > > > > not as > > > > >black and white as the textbooks tell us). There is more to this > > > > story than > > > > >just William being on the Loyalist side during the Revolution. > > > > > > > > > >Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > >To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email > > > > to: > > > > >RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > > > >RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > > > > > > >============================== > > > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, go to: > > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > > > > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > > > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > > > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > > > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > >go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > >Whispers from the Past..... > >http://www.susanblackmon.com > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > Whispers from the Past..... > http://www.susanblackmon.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237