ok this is maddening as my fa said that we had family at Groesbeck and the Riddle's that I am trying to connect with are from there-Groesbeck is county seat of Limestone Co. and the McCown's-the other part of the family were a hop skip and jump away and also Houze line and can't connect with that either. It is like we dropped in from outer space. Contact NIKIBOB@aol.com or Patsyj@ruralcomm.com frances ----- Original Message ----- From: <PoteetGourd@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: [RIDDLE] Arthur Riddle > > The other Riddle family I'm researching comes from Limestone County, Texas. > Arthur RIDDLE, the particular gentleman I'm hunting, was born in 1880's or > 1890's, and was a barber in the Dallas area. Does anyone know who that would > be? > Gretchen > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > My ancestors must be in a witness protection program! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The other Riddle family I'm researching comes from Limestone County, Texas. Arthur RIDDLE, the particular gentleman I'm hunting, was born in 1880's or 1890's, and was a barber in the Dallas area. Does anyone know who that would be? Gretchen

I have an Elizabeth RIDDLE from the KY area, b. about 1826/7. No other early history but found again in 1860 as Elizabeth HURT living with John LONG. Do you have any additional info on your Eliz? Thanks Jim GA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Carol24343@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: [RIDDLE] Children of Terry & Mary > The names of the children born to Terry and Mary Patterson Riddle are: > > Elizabeth or Eliza b. ? > Frances b. ? > Mary b. ? > Nancy b. ? > Rhoda b. ? > James b. abt. 1826 > Patrick P. b. abt. 1828 > Robert M. b. abt. 1830 > Aditha J. b. abt. 1830 > Delphia Louvicie, b. December 1835 (my line) > > Delphia m. John Houston Pendergrass, April 18, 1855, in Sale Creek, Hamilton > County, TN. and died December 17, 1899 in St. Clair County, Alabama. > > Have a great weekend all you Riddle researchers. > > Dream Back the Buffalo, Sing Back the Swan > > Carolyn Condray-Merritt > gggranddaughter of Terry Riddle > ggggranddaughter of James R. Riddle > gggggranddaughter of William Riddle > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > WARNING: Posting of "most wanted" may result in finally finding your great-grandmother's long forgotten maiden name! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Folks, I have a William Riddle, born March 1803 (1808?); died September 1840 in Monroe Co, IN. His birthdate is according to historical society reading of very old tombstone. I've not located baptism records or anything else that would verify this date. His children indicate in their census records that he was born in KY or VA. William Riddle married 1830 in Monroe Co, IN to Polly Mirah Parks, born 1808 in NC, daughter of William Parks & Jemima Branch. William had 4 known children: William Thompson Riddle, b 1831 Priscilla Caroline Riddle, b 1835 George Marion Riddle, b 1837 Harrison H Riddle, b 1839. Prior to his marriage in 1830, I have no idea where he lived or if he was or if he had been married before. Can anyone fit this William Riddle in their family tree? Does anyone have a William Riddle that disappeared from their family before or around 1830? Curiously too there is a George Washington Riddle 1807-1892, born KY, also in Monroe Co, IN about the same time. I've not been able to prove they are related but suspect so. I've not been able to find the parents of this George Washington Riddle either. Any clues here would be appreciated too. Thanks for any help. Cathy Riddle O'Connor kayomaxb@aol.com

I found a William Riddle b 1852 in Indiana who married Hattie____ and had a son Henry. Anybody? Thanks Reba ----- Original Message ----- From: <KAYOMAXB@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: [RIDDLE] William Riddle 1803(8?)-1840 > Hi Folks, > > I have a William Riddle, born March 1803 (1808?); died September 1840 in > Monroe Co, IN. > > His birthdate is according to historical society reading of very old > tombstone. I've not located baptism records or anything else that would > verify this date. His children indicate in their census records that he was > born in KY or VA. > > William Riddle married 1830 in Monroe Co, IN to Polly Mirah Parks, born 1808 > in NC, daughter of William Parks & Jemima Branch. > > William had 4 known children: > William Thompson Riddle, b 1831 > Priscilla Caroline Riddle, b 1835 > George Marion Riddle, b 1837 > Harrison H Riddle, b 1839. > > Prior to his marriage in 1830, I have no idea where he lived or if he was or > if he had been married before. > > Can anyone fit this William Riddle in their family tree? Does anyone have a > William Riddle that disappeared from their family before or around 1830? > > Curiously too there is a George Washington Riddle 1807-1892, born KY, also in > Monroe Co, IN about the same time. I've not been able to prove they are > related but suspect so. I've not been able to find the parents of this > George Washington Riddle either. Any clues here would be appreciated too. > > Thanks for any help. > > Cathy Riddle O'Connor > kayomaxb@aol.com > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy - a search for the greatest treasures - our ancestors > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The names of the children born to Terry and Mary Patterson Riddle are: Elizabeth or Eliza b. ? Frances b. ? Mary b. ? Nancy b. ? Rhoda b. ? James b. abt. 1826 Patrick P. b. abt. 1828 Robert M. b. abt. 1830 Aditha J. b. abt. 1830 Delphia Louvicie, b. December 1835 (my line) Delphia m. John Houston Pendergrass, April 18, 1855, in Sale Creek, Hamilton County, TN. and died December 17, 1899 in St. Clair County, Alabama. Have a great weekend all you Riddle researchers. Dream Back the Buffalo, Sing Back the Swan Carolyn Condray-Merritt gggranddaughter of Terry Riddle ggggranddaughter of James R. Riddle gggggranddaughter of William Riddle

It has been more than a couple of months since I have listed my Riddle line, I will repost it again: 1. William Riddle, b. abt. 1740-1760 in Unknown and died abt. 1820 in Rockinham County, NC. Married to an Unknown. Children born to this marriage are: James R. b. abt. 1780 in Rockingham Ct. NC, (my line) Elizabeth b. 1785-1790 Patricia b. 1785-1790 John b. abt. 1790 Nancy b. 1790-1800 Mary b. 1790-1800 Rhoda b. 1790-1800 James R. moved to Rhea County, TN about 1806. He married Elizabeth Means in Rockingham County, NC. Elizabeth was b. abt. 1770-80 in Guilford, Rockingham County, NC. Two known children of this marriage: Terry Riddle b. 1800s in NC or Knoxville, TN (my line) Elizabeth Riddle b. abt. 1805. James R. Riddle died November 25, 1839 in Benton County, AL and Elizabeth Means Riddle died bet. 1836-1839 in Benton/Calhoun County, AL. Terry Riddle m. Mary "Polly" Patterson in 1819, Rhea County, TN. Mary was b. abt. 1803 in Knox County, TN, dau. of Robert Patterson and Rhoda A. Witt. Mary Polly died early 1840s and Terry remarried Elizabeth Hanna who was a niece of Mary Polly Patterson. Terry and Elizabeth married 1842. There were ten (10) children born to Terry and Mary Patterson Riddle and no children born to Terry and Elizabeth Hanna Riddle. In another post, I will list the children born to Terry and Mary Patterson Riddle. Terry Riddle owned land in Talladega and Benton/Calhoun County Alabama. Dream Back the Buffalo, Sing Back the Swan Carolyn Condray-Merritt gggranddaughter of Terry Riddle ggggranddaughter of James R. Riddle gggggranddaughter of William Riddle

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----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Goins <jgoins@usit.net> * In yesterday's post I gave a wrong date of Henry Fisher in Stokes County, see correction. John is also on the 1785 tax list with Moses in Henry County, VA. John Riddle moved to the border of Stokes/Rockingham County NC and on a tax list there in 1797-8 was a Henry Fisher, he was not there in 1799 , but was back in *1780-81,*Correct date was 1800-1801. Was he the Henry Fisher who married Happy Riddle in Russell County , Va in 1799? Henry only appears on the 1799 tax list of Russell County, Did John Riddle tell Henry Fisher about Happy Jr.?, but that discovery came after my first story, at their time I did not know about G.T.Ridlons book. John Riddle wrote in the margin of his copy of Ridlons book about the son Moses and this was why Mary Hill suggested the son hung with William was Moses. Jack > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > Whispers from the Past..... > http://www.susanblackmon.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

rom: "carol seal" <carols@pldi.net> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > I have been searching the > > connection between Moses and William for years. Where did you find > > proof that William's father was Moses and that he had a son named > > Moses that was hung with him in Wilkesboro? Also, where did you find > > proof that his middle name was Thomas? Hi Carol and Riddle's It's been several moons since I have posted here. I began researching my distant grandma Happy Riddle Fisher in the 1980's with the help of my mothers vast memory of her Arrington, England and Fisher families. Mom lived with her grandparents during her teenage years. Happy Fisher was living with mom's Great grandparents Samuel and Mary England Arrington in 1860, she applied for a Revolutionary War Pension in 1863. I wrote my first Riddle family genealogy in the 1994 Families Of Hawkins County, TN. and that included Moses as the father of William Riddle. The circumstantial evidence that led to my conclusion was undeniably sound, but I will start from the beginning. My mom's GG grandma Catherine Fisher England was know in that community as an Indian and they were well known because they owned a Grist Mill. The Fishers had no Indian tradition and they seemed to be solely German, so I assumed the Indian came from Happy Riddle. I was given some information by Rodney Vitscheggar which was two Court record in Montgomery County, One was the Inventory of William Riddles estate and the other was a Cow that was taken from Hoppy Riddle was ordered returned, and the 1767 Tax list Moses and Indian and William on the same list. So I went to Montgomery County several times, but the most convincing overwhelming evidence at this time was John Riddle. He filed a Revolutionary War Pension Application in 1834 stating that he was born in 1750 on the Flatt River, the only Riddle know to be in that area was Moses as he is on the 1750 tax list of Granville County, this area became Orange County in 1753 and Moses and his wife Mary were on the 1755 tax list with the notation (mulatto). Since John was listed once (1820) as a mulatto this combined with the other records removes all doubt that John was the son of Moses and William Riddle association with John Riddle shows a relationship. Lets examine John Riddle's pensio! n, he stated he first entered the service while living in Grayson County, VA, Grayson was not formed until later, but John told us the area of Botetourt/Montgomery County he lived in. The 1780 militia of Montgomery County included William Riddle and John Riddle, 1773 William Riddle and John Riddle were on John Montgomery tax dist. of Montgomery County, Va.- In 1777 both John and William Riddle were on the same list of people who signed the Oath of Allegiance.in Montgomery County. Moses was sometimes called Ridley on NC records and John wrote in his Pension Riddle, alias Ridley, William is also called Ridley on a court record with Micajer Bunch in Montgomery County. John Riddle probably escaped from Riddle knob when Cleveland captured William Riddle in the Spring of 1781, John stated in his pension that he returned to Henry County and joined the Revolution in August 1781. John is also on the 1785 tax list with Moses in Henry County, VA. John moved to the border of Stokes/Rock! ingham County NC and on a tax list there in 1797-8 was a Henry Fisher, he was not there in 1799 , but was back in 1780-81, was he the Henry Fisher who married Happy Riddle in Russell County , Va in 1799. Henry only appears on the 1799 tax list of Russell County, Did John Riddle tell Henry Fisher about Happy Jr.?, but that discovery came after my first story, at their time I did not know about G.T.Ridlons book. John Riddle wrote in the margin of his copy of Ridlons book about the son Moses and this was why Mary Hill suggested the son hung with William was Moses. Jack

Hello fellow Riddle researchers: Many of you "know of" what I am about to say here ... others may not. Jack Goins has said in a old (RIDDLE postings) to this LIST if you look through the archived one's ... that William Riddle wasn't found recorded as Thomas... That would of course depending on what you would consider as a ligitamate source record. I don't know wherein the ARCHIVE RIDDLE LIST Jack made this comment off hand? <A HREF="http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=RIDDLE">http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=RIDDLE</A> You will find people / relatives to this family i.e. descendants (calling him different names) as I am also a descedant of William Riddle the Loyalist. Or, if you prefer Tory (the 'two ways' of saying the same thing) depending on one's perspective who would have particularly been living in Rev. War days. Any way, one can find William Riddle (the tory -or- loyalist) both called "William T. Riddle" or "William Thomas Riddle" or "William Riddle" and even "Thomas Riddle". I have no explaination myself for the different ways he has been referred to. Thomas may or may not have been his middle name ... Or, it may well have been his middle name but possibly unverifiable by a U.S. Government source record, tax record, or census Schedule. Not all such records however contain middle names. Thomas could also have been his (nickname)? At any rate it has persisted as a name "attributed" to him ... even if there is no source one may recognized as proof ... there are plenty of old family documents that list him with this name as we are even still to this day doing so, per the intital e-mail to this List with this question in view. And, we have no birth certificate of course available from this era for him as we don't for many ancestors who's middle names we may have been told through family records. As, such some do not prefer to use the Thomas as part of his name that is of course perfectly acceptable. Or, you may prefer to put it as such not certain of it at all as William (Thomas) Riddle, or even a ? mark after this name. When there is a unknown it can not be said to be proven one way or another without another middle name being proven. Sometimes people will try and invent a middle name for a ancestor ... but as far as I have ever heard if this is even a possiblity it happen many years ago. I don't think to much more could be said on the subject of his name except perhaps to sight sources of genealogy records family members have kept that spelt it that way. But again perhaps something will surface in the future that some may feel more credible to support what maybe considered proof on this issue of his name. But, more than likely (what his middle name was) will remain a mystery to many; and yet excepted as (known and vaild name) to many others. Jodie had made some good points in her posting! Sincerely, Russ Merryman A cousin and Descendant of William Riddle. This is all I can add. I don't know if this will be of any help ...(please read it in conjunction with other postings)... P.S. I've cut & pasted an old e-mail to the list here incase some have missed this one in relation to the Moses and William Riddle and the Melugeon/Indian ethnic subject as well. We must remember Melugeons can be more that one race (not necessarily "tri-racial") and by that meaning one has to be black as the term has often be stereotyped. Melugeon is a more modern accurate terminology whereas long ago they may have clumped everyone as being "non-white" as Mulatto. Long ago if you were not "solely white" that was a stigma to many in white society as outlined above in a lack of concern to what someone's ethnic background was if it wasn't white. (Heritage and ethnic ancestry is important! -- not to clump everyone into two categories). The following is an old posting from the Archive of Riddle postings: <A HREF="http://www.cnidr.org/">CNIDR</A> Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 332) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:28:37 -0500 From: "Jack Goins" <A HREF="mailto:jgoins@usit.net"> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <00c401bf2f11$202e06a0$84b450d8@rchill> Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Saponi Indian Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Was Moses Riddle a Saponi Indian? Notice the names on these Orange County, Virginia Court records; (Order Book 3 1741-43 courtesy, Dr. Virginia DeMarce)..Alexander Machartoon, *John Bowling, Manincassa, Capt Tom, Isaac, Harry, Blind Tom, foolish Jack, *Charles Griffin, *John Collins, Little Jack. indians being bought before the Court on suspicion of stealing Hogs..Ordered that their guns be taken from them till they are ready to depart out of the county, they having declared their intentions to depart this colony within a week.. On pages 309-312 the above named men are shown as having individually put up security The following Saponi information is from a Saponi chronology compiled from an Eno-Occoneechee petition for recognition by the State of North Carolina: A. 1750s The Saponi have a settlement near Hillsboro NC. B. Post Rev. Pleasant Grove region Saponi Indians Jeramiah Bunch, George Gibson, and Henry Bunch receive land grants in 1785 along the Eno River just east of Hillsboro NC.. Tax collectors were instructed to enumerate Indians on tax records in both VA & NC as mulatto. Here are a few names from a 1755 Tax list from Orange County, NC. Gedion Bunch 1 tithe (mulatto); John Collins 1 tithe (Mulatto); Moses Ridley 1 tithe & wife Mary (mulatto) ; Thomas Gibson 3 tithes (Mulatto); George Gibson 1 tithe mulatto;.Micajer Bunch 1 tithe (mulatto).. This 1750 list from this same area, although in 1750 this was Granville County William Bowling; James Bowling;John Collins;Gedion Bunch;Thomas Gibson. 1761 Orange County NC deed 700 acres to John Brown included the improvements of Bowling and Riddle (William Boling, Bolen and Moses Riddle) Chainbearers were Moses Riddle and Charles Gibson. Moses probably worked for this John Brown, and became indebted to him, then moved to pittslyvania County, Virginia. Ironically a Charles Griffin testified in a 1753 Orange County NC Court deposition that he knew John Goins some 30 years ago and that he was a lazy, triffling, no good gambler, and a mulatto.. Was this the Hog thief Charles Griffin lying about my possible grandpaw ?. John Collins, and Micajer Bunch migrated from Orange County NC in 1767 to the back woods area of the New River and are recorded as living on Indian land on a 1753 Fincastle County Virginia Tax record. Both these families has a close relationship with William Riddle in Montgomery County, Virginia... Jack ______________________________ ------------------------------ EXCERPT FROM RIDDLE ARCHIVE LIST: <A HREF="http://www.cnidr.org/">CNIDR</A> Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 331) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 11:30:52 -0500 From: "Jack Goins" <A HREF="mailto:jgoins@usit.net"> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <001801bf2ebd$9f410b80$9d9050d8@rchill> Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Native American History/Saponi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Carol, That is the right page (356) in Ridlon, since William T. had a brother named Moses. Then applying family naming patterns of that time frame, or even today, this insures the probability that their father's name was Moses, also using this same approach, the son hung with William Riddle at Wilkesboro was probably named Moses..Jack >-----Original Message----- >From: Jack Goins [mailto:jgoins@usit.net] >Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:23 PM >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Native American History/Saponi > >A Test for all you Tories: Apart from court documents, tax & census,etc. >there is another family reason that supports Moses Riddle as the father of >William , what is that? A clue; you can find it in G.T. Ridlon.. No money >for the winner.. Jack ===================================== In a message dated 02/14/2003 6:42:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, Dayjovu@aol.com writes: > Subj: [RIDDLE] RE: William Thomas Riddle &Proof > Date: 02/14/2003 6:42:15 AM Pacific Standard Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:Dayjovu@aol.com">Dayjovu@aol.com</A> > Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com">RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com</A> > Sent from the Internet > > Carol et al.... > > First -- List - sorry for use of bandwith... > > I can't give you proof, but I can give you some good sources. -- Jodie > desc. > of William Thomas Riddle > Note: (some people use Tory for the T, but it's only for quick > identification. Tory is not his middle name!) > - Let me know if you have any problem "surfing' to online sources! - > Jodie > > Assumption # 1: Moses Ridley and William Ridley are assumed to be > Father/Son > based on this document below, family migration pattern and birthdates from > other documents. > > source: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/tith.htm> A List of Tithables for > > Pittsylvania County Taken by John Wilson, Gentl, in Year 1767 > John Stone &son John George Lumpkin, son Robert & son George, John Travis, > negroes Jack & Betty Absolom Bostick, negro Pato Nathan Bostick Thomas > Garner, negroes Harry, Lillis, Cate & Peg William Shelton John MacMillion > William > Munkers Richard Ardin Daniel Sallahan John Yates & son John, negroes Bob & > Cate Charles, Little Barsheba Beverly (Mulato)Moses Ridle (Indian), William > > Ridle,John WynneRobt. WorshamJohn FerrolDavid LayRobert MacconowayJohn > SimmonsZachariah ScagsHenry Stone and son William, Mason Combs, negro > SarahHenry Greens LandJohn Owen &Sons William &John, negro Sameorge Holms > Gwin, negroes Lill, Lucy, Fillis &GwinDextrous MusickWilliam NelsonJames > SartainPeter GrimstedJohn Owen (Cain Cr)Small Wood OwenTimothy Stamps, John > > Stamps &Thomas StampsBenjamine Thrasher &negro LuckWm. W. HodgesGoram > BrownWilliam WatsonWilliam RiceIsiah Watkins &Edward Lester (Miller)Peter > Perkins and James, son, negroes Lownon &HannahJohn Wilson, negroes, viz; > Roger, Will, Charles, Isaac, Betty, Lin &DollIsaac SartainRichard > AdamsValentine Hatcher &negroes Matt, Beck and CharlesDavid Stephins > > Assumption #2: Jack Goins is a descendant of William Thomas Riddle's > daughter > Harriet Riddle Fisher. He has written several books. One is sited below. > > "In the Riddle family of Utah there is a tradition that the family was of > "Portugee" ancestry, which is a common tradition among people of Melungeon > ancestry. See also Jack H. Goins, "Melungeon Families - Sizemore, Minor, > Goins, Fisher and Riddle," Families of Hawkins County, Tennessee > (1786-1994), > (Rogersville, Tn. : Hawkins County Genealogical and Historical Society, > 1994), pp. 537-540. > > 1752 Grandville Co NC: Thomas Collins received a land grant on the Flatt > River on Dials Creek. Witnesses were Paul Collins, George Gibson and Moses > Riddle. > > Assumption #3: > Orange County tax listed several Melungeon families, or their descendants, > who later came to Newman Ridge: Gedion Bunch, Micajer Bunch, Thomas > Collins, > Samuel Collins, John Collins, Moses and Mary Ridley (Riddle), Thomas > Gibson, > Charles Gibson, George Gibson, and Mager Gibson. All of the above were > listed > as mulattoes. > > *Mulattoes back then meant "not pure white". > *Newman Ridge is in Hawkins Co. TN; > Assumption #4: > William's wife Happy returned to Hawkins Co TN after William and son were > hung. Moses &Mary lived there too! Happy still had the small children to > care for; she remarried to William Ingraham [ William Ingram (Ingraham) > were > signers of the petition to form Lee County, Va. Ingraham was married to > Happy > Riddle, widow of William Riddle.] source: <A HREF="http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html"> > http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html</A> > > Source: http://www.jimcal.com/Riddle%20Researchers.htm#Thomas > > >Family Line: William Thomas Riddle, b. abt. 1740, m. Harriet "Happy" > Rogers > >Roberts. Some researchers of this family believe that William was a Tory > >Captain and lived in VA, conducted raids into NC during the Revolutionary > >War and was hung in Wilkes Co., NC. Other researchers believe William was > >an American patriot and served under Gen. Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion, was > >captured by the British and hung in Augusta, GA. After the death of > >William, his wife "Happy" and their children moved west to Tennessee. > >William's descendants continued their western migration to TX, UT, and > >IN.Be sure and read these past articles dealing with William Thomas Riddle > > >that appeared in the Riddle Newsletters.<A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v02is02.htm#p1">Captain Riddle Hanged in > >Wilkesboro, NC</A> > ><A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is01.htm#Tory">William Thomas Riddle – Tory or Patriot?</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is02.htm#Tory">The Tory Oak Is Gone</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#William">William Riddle 1740 - 1781</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip to Tennessee, NC and VA</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is02.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip</A> It is strongly recommended that anyone interested in > the > William Thomas Riddle family should obtain a copy of Mary Hill's research > report that deals with the William Thomas Riddle family. The William Riddle > > 1740-1781 article above is but a small portion of Mary's research paper. > Mary will be happy to supply a copy for the cost of reproduction plus > shipping in the amount of $20.00.Contact: > Mary E.V. Hill > 1052 Briar Ave. > Provo, UT 84604 > Phone: 801-373-5203 > E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:maryevhill@home.com">maryevhill@home.com</A> > Web Site: <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/l/Mary--E-Hill/">Mary E.V. Hill Family Home Page</A>James I. Riddle III > 4247 Goodfellow Dr. > Dallas, TX 75229-2815 > E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:jriddle@onramp.net">jriddle@onramp.net</A>Chauncey C. Riddle > 1146 Birch Lane > Provo, Utah 84604 > <A HREF="mailto:cbr13@netutah.net">cbr13@netutah.net</A> > -------------------------------------------- > > In a message dated 2/13/2003 6:46:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > > >Carol I did not find proof; saw the posting from Riddle list rootsweb. I > can > >not find my Green Joseph Riddle's line Ala. frances > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "carol seal" <carols@pldi.net> > >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:35 AM > >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > > > > >>Frances, > >> > >>Family of William and Harriet Riddle. I have been searching the > >>connection between Moses and William for years. Where did you find > >>proof that William's father was Moses and that he had a son named > >>Moses that was hung with him in Wilkesboro? Also, where did you find > >>proof that his middle name was Thomas? > >> > >>My great Aunt did research on the Riddle family many years (before > >>home computers) and in her documentation she writes that his name was > >>William Thomas Riddle. I could never find proof. > >> > >>Thanks for any help. > >> > >>Carol > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: Frances Wimberly <Cats@personalcomputer.net> > >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:46 PM > >>Subject: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > >> > >> > >>>thank you for the reply. frances > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: <Dayjovu@aol.com> > >>>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:15 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] William T Riddle b. 1740 > >>> > >>> > >>>>In a message dated 1/27/2003 8:15:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >>>>Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > >>>> > >>>>>Is this the > >>>>>Tory who was hanged with his son by that mean crooked judge? I > >>jsut (sp) > >>>>>can't get it straight. frances > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>Frances > >>>>Yes, William Thomas Riddle was hung on the "Tory Oak"; however, > >>given that > >>>>his "group" was part Native American, at the time the British were > >>>promising > >>>>much to NA that the "colonist" were not. William's wife remarried > >>shortly > >>>>after. The reason it's suspected that William T's father was > >>Moses > >>>>Ridley/Riddle is because William had a son named Moses who was > >>about 15 > >>>when > >>>>he and his father were killed. -- Jodie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>>To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email > >>to: > >>>>RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > >>>>RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > >>>> > >>>>============================== > >>>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>records, > >>>go to: > >>>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > >>political > >>>announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > >>flames, > >>>etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > >>removal. > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >>records, go to: > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > >>Whispers from the Past..... > >>http://www.susanblackmon.com > >> > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > >RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > >RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Remember, undocumented genealogy is mythology > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I have no idea. frances ----- Original Message ----- From: <PoteetGourd@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: [RIDDLE] Alexander Riddle > Frances, > Are these yours or mine? > > THE DEMOCRATIC WATCHTOWER 1 July 1840 > Letter at Talladega Post Office: Alexr. Riddle > > THE DEMOCRATIC WATCHTOWER 2 Oct 1850 > Died, near this place of pulmonary consumption, on Wed., July 24th, between 8 > and 9 o'clock P.M. Mrs. Mary Riddle, consort of Col. Riddle. Mrs. Riddle was > at the time of her death, in the 49th year of her age. She was a South > Carolinian by birth, but from Talladega County, Alabama, to this state in > 1848. > > Gretchen > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > NEED HELP? > GOTTA COMPLAINT? > EMAIL sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I have no idea.frances ----- Original Message ----- From: <PoteetGourd@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: [RIDDLE] Alexander Riddle > Frances, > Are these yours or mine? > > THE DEMOCRATIC WATCHTOWER 1 July 1840 > Letter at Talladega Post Office: Alexr. Riddle > > THE DEMOCRATIC WATCHTOWER 2 Oct 1850 > Died, near this place of pulmonary consumption, on Wed., July 24th, between 8 > and 9 o'clock P.M. Mrs. Mary Riddle, consort of Col. Riddle. Mrs. Riddle was > at the time of her death, in the 49th year of her age. She was a South > Carolinian by birth, but from Talladega County, Alabama, to this state in > 1848. > > Gretchen > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > NEED HELP? > GOTTA COMPLAINT? > EMAIL sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I hope someone out there can help me with this. I am looking for my gmother (not a Riddle) and find her listed in KY 1870 census under KY names. When I look at the 1870 census in her county (all 265 pages!) I find nothing! Does anyone have any suggestions? Barb Riddle

James Raymond Riddle, 63. of La Habra, died 12/21/002 of a stroke. Services, 1 p,m. Friday, Colman Mortuary, La Habra. Survivors, Tillie; sons, Thomas, and James Jr. *************** La Habra, Orange County, California And as Daddy used to tell me: "Don't worry about bitin' off more'n you can chew; your mouth is probably a whole lot bigger'n you think."

I'm getting Christi's messages. Wanda At 06:13 AM 2/13/2003, you wrote: >Hello Riddle Researchers, > >I need some feedback here. We have a new list member, Christi. For some >reason her posts and ours aren't making it back to her. > >I need to know if anyone besides me is getting them. > >Thanks for your help, > >Susan > >Listowner: Blackmon, Boultinghouse, Branch, Cauthen, Hammel, Hamil, Hamill, >Harway, Pope, Procter, Riddle, Sprunt

Carol et al.... First -- List - sorry for use of bandwith... I can't give you proof, but I can give you some good sources. -- Jodie desc. of William Thomas Riddle Note: (some people use Tory for the T, but it's only for quick identification. Tory is not his middle name!) - Let me know if you have any problem "surfing' to online sources! - Jodie Assumption # 1: Moses Ridley and William Ridley are assumed to be Father/Son based on this document below, family migration pattern and birthdates from other documents. source: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapittsy/tith.htm> A List of Tithables for Pittsylvania County Taken by John Wilson, Gentl, in Year 1767 John Stone & son JohnGeorge Lumpkin, son Robert & son George, John Travis, negroes Jack & BettyAbsolom Bostick, negro PatoNathan BostickThomas Garner, negroes Harry, Lillis, Cate & PegWilliam SheltonJohn MacMillionWilliam MunkersRichard ArdinDaniel SallahanJohn Yates & son John, negroes Bob & CateCharles LittleBarsheba Beverly (Mulato)Moses Ridle (Indian), William Ridle,John WynneRobt. WorshamJohn FerrolDavid LayRobert MacconowayJohn SimmonsZachariah ScagsHenry Stone and son William, Mason Combs, negro SarahHenry Greens LandJohn Owen & Sons William & John, negro Sameorge Holms Gwin, negroes Lill, Lucy, Fillis & GwinDextrous MusickWilliam NelsonJames SartainPeter GrimstedJohn Owen (Cain Cr)Small Wood OwenTimothy Stamps, John Stamps & Thomas StampsBenjamine Thrasher & negro LuckWm. W. HodgesGoram BrownWilliam WatsonWilliam RiceIsiah Watkins & Edward Lester (Miller)Peter Perkins and James, son, negroes Lownon & HannahJohn Wilson, negroes, viz; Roger, Will, Charles, Isaac, Betty, Lin & DollIsaac SartainRichard AdamsValentine Hatcher & negroes Matt, Beck and CharlesDavid Stephins Assumption #2: Jack Goins is a descendant of William Thomas Riddle's daughter Harriet Riddle Fisher. He has written several books. One is sited below. "In the Riddle family of Utah there is a tradition that the family was of "Portugee" ancestry, which is a common tradition among people of Melungeon ancestry. See also Jack H. Goins, "Melungeon Families - Sizemore, Minor, Goins, Fisher and Riddle," Families of Hawkins County, Tennessee (1786-1994), (Rogersville, Tn. : Hawkins County Genealogical and Historical Society, 1994), pp. 537-540. 1752 Grandville Co NC: Thomas Collins received a land grant on the Flatt River on Dials Creek. Witnesses were Paul Collins, George Gibson and Moses Riddle. Assumption #3: Orange County tax listed several Melungeon families, or their descendants, who later came to Newman Ridge: Gedion Bunch, Micajer Bunch, Thomas Collins, Samuel Collins, John Collins, Moses and Mary Ridley (Riddle), Thomas Gibson, Charles Gibson, George Gibson, and Mager Gibson. All of the above were listed as mulattoes. *Mulattoes back then meant "not pure white". *Newman Ridge is in Hawkins Co. TN; Assumption #4: William's wife Happy returned to Hawkins Co TN after William and son were hung. Moses & Mary lived there too! Happy still had the small children to care for; she remarried to William Ingraham [ William Ingram (Ingraham) were signers of the petition to form Lee County, Va. Ingraham was married to Happy Riddle, widow of William Riddle.] source: <A HREF="http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html"> http://www.fialcowitz.com/Bunch/other9.html</A> Source: http://www.jimcal.com/Riddle%20Researchers.htm#Thomas > Family Line: William Thomas Riddle, b. abt. 1740, m. Harriet "Happy" Rogers > Roberts. Some researchers of this family believe that William was a Tory > Captain and lived in VA, conducted raids into NC during the Revolutionary > War and was hung in Wilkes Co., NC. Other researchers believe William was > an American patriot and served under Gen. Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion, was > captured by the British and hung in Augusta, GA. After the death of > William, his wife "Happy" and their children moved west to Tennessee. > William's descendants continued their western migration to TX, UT, and > IN.Be sure and read these past articles dealing with William Thomas Riddle > that appeared in the Riddle Newsletters.<A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v02is02.htm#p1">Captain Riddle Hanged in > Wilkesboro, NC</A> > <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is01.htm#Tory">William Thomas Riddle – Tory or Patriot?</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v03is02.htm#Tory">The Tory Oak Is Gone</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#William">William Riddle 1740 - 1781</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip to Tennessee, NC and VA</A> <A HREF="http://www.jimcal.com/v04is02.htm#Research">Riddle Research Trip</A> It is strongly recommended that anyone interested in the William Thomas Riddle family should obtain a copy of Mary Hill's research report that deals with the William Thomas Riddle family. The William Riddle 1740-1781 article above is but a small portion of Mary's research paper.  Mary will be happy to supply a copy for the cost of reproduction plus shipping in the amount of $20.00.Contact: Mary E.V. Hill 1052 Briar Ave. Provo, UT 84604 Phone: 801-373-5203 E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:maryevhill@home.com">maryevhill@home.com</A> Web Site: <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/l/Mary--E-Hill/">Mary E.V. Hill Family Home Page</A>James I. Riddle III 4247 Goodfellow Dr. Dallas, TX 75229-2815 E-mail: <A HREF="mailto:jriddle@onramp.net">jriddle@onramp.net</A>Chauncey C. Riddle 1146 Birch Lane Provo, Utah 84604 <A HREF="mailto:cbr13@netutah.net">cbr13@netutah.net</A> In a message dated 2/13/2003 6:46:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > Carol I did not find proof; saw the posting from Riddle list rootsweb. I can > not find my Green Joseph Riddle's line Ala. frances > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol seal" <carols@pldi.net> > To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > > >Frances, > > > >Family of William and Harriet Riddle. I have been searching the > >connection between Moses and William for years. Where did you find > >proof that William's father was Moses and that he had a son named > >Moses that was hung with him in Wilkesboro? Also, where did you find > >proof that his middle name was Thomas? > > > >My great Aunt did research on the Riddle family many years (before > >home computers) and in her documentation she writes that his name was > >William Thomas Riddle. I could never find proof. > > > >Thanks for any help. > > > >Carol > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Frances Wimberly <Cats@personalcomputer.net> > >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:46 PM > >Subject: [RIDDLE] Re:thank you > > > > > >>thank you for the reply. frances > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <Dayjovu@aol.com> > >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:15 PM > >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE] William T Riddle b. 1740 > >> > >> > >>>In a message dated 1/27/2003 8:15:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >>>Cats@personalcomputer.net writes: > >>> > >>>>Is this the > >>>>Tory who was hanged with his son by that mean crooked judge? I > >jsut (sp) > >>>>can't get it straight. frances > >>>> > >>> > >>>Frances > >>>Yes, William Thomas Riddle was hung on the "Tory Oak"; however, > >given that > >>>his "group" was part Native American, at the time the British were > >>promising > >>>much to NA that the "colonist" were not. William's wife remarried > >shortly > >>>after. The reason it's suspected that William T's father was > >Moses > >>>Ridley/Riddle is because William had a son named Moses who was > >about 15 > >>when > >>>he and his father were killed. -- Jodie > >>> > >>> > >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email > >to: > >>>RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > >>>RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > >>> > >>>============================== > >>>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, > >>go to: > >>>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >>> > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, > >political > >>announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, > >flames, > >>etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for > >removal. > >> > >>============================== > >>To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > >records, go to: > >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >Contact the Listowner sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com > >Whispers from the Past..... > >http://www.susanblackmon.com > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, please send the command "unsubscribe" in an email to: > RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com (if in mail mode) or > RIDDLE-D-request@rootsweb.com (if in digest mode) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Yes Susan, I too am receiving mine. Thanks for all your hard work. Jodie dayjovu@aol.com

Happy Valentines Everyone, You can please some of the people all of the time. You can please all of the people some of the time. But you can't please all of the people all of the time! I appreciate all the private emails I've gotten in the last couple of days. If anyone else has anything that they would like to comment to me about, today's the time to do.it. sjblackmon@digitalpassage.com I'm working on some new things for you all. Hopefully over the weekend I'll be able to tell you all about it and this next week we can get back to our Riddle riddles. I hope you all have a wonderful Valentine's Day and get lots of goodies and that you have a great weekend. Keep an eye on your in-box. Susan Listowner: Blackmon, Boultinghouse, Branch, Cauthen, Hammel, Hamil, Hamill, Harway, Pope, Procter, Riddle, Sprunt JSB Designs - Website Design www.jsbdesigns.net Whispers from the Past...... www.susanblackmon.com Welcome to Graham, Texas - On-line www.graham-texas.com