John Riddle moved from Hawkins County, Tn., near Kyles Ford 1805 to Bledsoe County, Tn, then to Pulaskie County Mo . in 1830, with several sons including Johnson, Manuel, Issac, Altha. Johnson Riddle then moved to Walker County Alabama.(G.T.Ridlon). John is enumerated on the 1830 census of Bledsoe County, Tn,. and gone on the 1840 census..There was probably several others who went with Johnson Riddle to Alabama. just speculating I would say some of the children of Thomas (brother to John) who married Sarah Carmack may have moved to Alabama.. Jack ---------- > From: RPoind4199@aol.com > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] 1880 Cumberland Co., KY Census > Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 1:19 PM > > Ronny, > The Cumberland Co., KY RIDDLES are also from William "the Tory" RIDDLE. I do > have John and his son Johnson in my data base, but not much else. Except for > Johnson nine children. I would appreciate anything on that line you are > willing to share. > > I'll have to look at a map and see how close Jackson, Marshal, and Winston > Co., AL are to each other. Did John live in AL or just his descendants? I > show John deceased in Hawkin Co., TN. If John children lived down there that > may explain if some of John's nieces and nephews might have moved south. I > don't know if you are aware or not, but John's brother, James, is unaccounted > for in the 1830 Census of Kentucky. He's probably in AL or NC. I sure > would like to find him. Your John was born 10 Feb 1775, right??? > Robin L. Poindexter > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! > >

In a message dated 07/02/1999 10:33:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, KAYOMAXB@AOL.COM writes: << I found the following on the new LDS site on the net. Cloah Riddle, married William Shelton 18 Dec 1829, Shelton Laurel, Buncombe, North Carolina File Number - 1761004 Cathy Riddle O'Connor >> THANK YOU! You know, thats one name I hadn't punched in yet at that site! Thank you very much for taking the time to look for me! {{{hugs}}} Leslie

Hi Robin, Wow - I can't believe I remembered right! There's so much detail we deal with in genealogy, and so I am never surprised when I stand corrected on some detail. I'm glad you had the sense to check out a source that really knew the right answer. I was just going by the "I think..." method, which is not always very accurate. Thanks, Mary At 01:44 PM 7/2/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Mary, >You were right and I was wrong. The 1930 census will be coming out in 2002. >Seventy-six years after it was originally taken. This protects the privacy >of the individuals in the census. >Robin L. Poindexter > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

Yes I believe it is our Asa and I have been dying to get a chance to research this more.........No one seems to know where he went or why......I believe that we connected once before on this and time has kept me from jumping in on it more.........Do you have anymore information on this> Thanks Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:43 AM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Asa Riddle >Hi, > >Thought I would mention that I saw an Asa Riddle in Obion Co., TN in about >1840. Have no idea if he's connected to your Asa. > >Mary Hill > >At 04:55 AM 7/2/1999 -0400, you wrote: >>I saw you inquiry in Tobias Riddle in Logan Co and I wanted to let you >know that I am researching Fred Riddle of Logan Co who was my G >Grandfather. I have run across Tobias in research but I haven't figured >out the connection as yet.... >Fred Riddle was a son of Ishom, who was the son of Asa, who was the son of >Tyree of Stokes Co. N. C.... > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

Robin: Also, Johnson married (1st) Jane Shepherd and (2nd) Martha Carmack. It is the second marriage from which my Alabama Riddles are from. Ronny

Hi, I know that John Riddle, son of Wm. (tory) Riddle, went to Pulaski Co., MO and died there in 1833, as I recall. His children went to AL from there, I understand. Mary At 01:19 PM 7/2/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Ronny, >The Cumberland Co., KY RIDDLES are also from William "the Tory" RIDDLE. I do >have John and his son Johnson in my data base, but not much else. Except for >Johnson nine children. I would appreciate anything on that line you are >willing to share. > >I'll have to look at a map and see how close Jackson, Marshal, and Winston >Co., AL are to each other. Did John live in AL or just his descendants? I >show John deceased in Hawkin Co., TN. If John children lived down there that >may explain if some of John's nieces and nephews might have moved south. I >don't know if you are aware or not, but John's brother, James, is unaccounted >for in the 1830 Census of Kentucky. He's probably in AL or NC. I sure >would like to find him. Your John was born 10 Feb 1775, right??? >Robin L. Poindexter > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! > > > >

Robin: I show that the John Riddle that went to Utah was a son of Isaac William and Anna Grizzel. Isaac William was a son of William (Tory) Riddle. I am getting detail together for Johnson and will forward to you shortly. Ronny

>Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:14:46 -0600 >To: Stan Kelley <dturner@ksinc.net> >From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >Subject: Samuel T. Riddle >Cc: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > >Hi Stan, > I looked up your line, as much as I could find, a month ago. Samuel was in a deed record: >15 Jul 1865 Samuel T. Riddle to daughter Martha Dixon; land, for natural affection and for the particular attention she paid me and her mother Mary Riddle my wife in our affliction and under the infirmities of age. > That's the only record I could find of Samuel T. Riddle, checking deeds and wills. I found Benjamin Riddle in McMinn Co., TN and his probate, which named his children. > >The deed books of McMinn Co., TN indicate that Benjamin's wife's name was Frances Riddle. Benjamin died before Nov 1833. He had sons Lewis and Abraham. > >On 9 feb 1841 Francis Crews, James B. Riddle, and John Miller, guardians, for Benjamin Riddle Jr., minor heir of Benjamin Riddle dec'd, to John McMahan. > >6 Nov 1842 William S. Ragan, who had married Mary a daughter of Benjamin Riddle, dec'd and her brother, Lewis Riddle, each conveyed to J. Meigs their one sixth interest in lands. > >27 Feb 1852 Mary L. Riddle to William A.G. Reed; her 1/4 part, as heir of Jeremiah Reed dec'd to land, subject to widow's dower. (Her maiden name must have been Reed - Jeremiah was probably her father.) > >17 Oct 1849 George Clark to William Stephenson; 1 Jun 1852, witness James B. Riddle has removed to Oregon. > > >The problem is that I did not see anything that ties your Samuel T. Riddle to Benjamin Riddle. And also, where did Benjamin Riddle come from? He may tie to Zachariah Riddle of Jefferson Co., TN or John Riddle of Jefferson Co., TN because of the following deeds: 27 Nov 1833 Lewis and Abraham Riddle to TIDENCE LANE; their 2/6 part of land whereon Gilbert Cruse now lives and the same divised to them by their father Benjamin Riddle. >20 May 1841 James B. Riddle to Frances Crew (Frances Riddle); his share of land purchased as one of the guardians of Benjamin Riddle, minor heir of Benjamin Riddle dec'd whereon PLEASANT W. LANE now lives. Apparently Frances, wife of Benjamin Riddle, married a man named Crews, because of the above deeds. TIDENCE LANE descends from Tidence Lane, b. 1724 in Maryland, who started the Bent Creek Baptist Church in Whitesburg, Hamblen Co., TN which is right by Jefferson Co., TN. Zachariah Riddle and John Riddle lived in Jefferson Co., TN. They may have come from the Pittsylvania Co., VA - Rowan Co., NC Riddle's who came down from Maryland. Tidence Lane came from Maryland too. The Riddle children attended the Bent Creek Baptist Church. Tidence Lane Sr. died in 1806. He had a son Aquilla Lane, who had sons Tidence Lane and Pleasant Lane, who are mentioned in the above deeds with Benjamin Riddle's family in McMinn Co., TN. This may have nothing to do with Samuel T. Riddle, or everything to do with Samuel T. Riddle. That's all I've been able to find. Wish I'd found something to tie all these folks together. Mary Hill Benjamin Riddle of McMinn Co., TN the Riddle's who came down from Maryland and Loudoun Co., VA. That's who Stephen Riddle of Rowan Co., NC belongs to. > >That's about all I know. Does anyone else have any ties that could help here? > >Mary Hill > > > >At 07:06 PM 3/15/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>Sorry to bother you but I haven't had a response since our first email some time ago. Have you found anything on Samuel T. RIDDLE who was born in Rowan Co., NC abt. 1777? I have info on his wife (little) and all his children but do not know who his parents are. Some think it's James RIDDLE while others believe it to be Stephen. Please, if you could, point me in the right >>direction. I've been hung up on this for nearly a year. Thanks. Stan >>Kelley >> >>

Lynn, Were your Riddles in Muddy Creek Twp or Buffalo Twp???? Pat

No Mary, you're right. They hold census info for 72 yrs., not 76. The following info is from a book called the Source, which is posted on the Ancestry.com web site. Restrictions On Access To Post-1920 Census Records To protect the privacy of living individuals, access to population schedules is restricted for seventy-two years after the census is taken, so they are not available to researchers during that time. The Personal Service Branch, Bureau of the Census, P.O. Box 1545, Jeffersonville, IN 47131, will provide, for a fee, official transcripts of census records from 1930 to 1990. Access is restricted to whomever the information is about, their authorized representatives, or, in the case of deceased persons, their heirs or administrators. Use Form BC-600 to request information. Pat

This family is an addendum to the Samuel Riddle family already submitted by Mike Conners. Perhaps someone can relate to the following: Frances/Francis Riddle (son of Samuel) b.1839 in MO, d. 1874 in Shelbyville, MO wife: Harriet Regina Copenhaver, b. 1842 in VA, d. 1892 in Shelbyville, MO Virginia/ Jenny Riddell (note change of spelling) b. 1864 in Shelbyville, MO spouse: Robert Powell, 1852-1924 children: Robert, Velma Francis, Leoti A.F. Riddell, 1866-1867, Shelbyville, MO Lillian Mae Riddell, b. 1868 in Shelbyville, MO, d. 1959 in MN spouse: Frederick Streif, b. 1866 in IL, d. 1960 in MN (this family is completed in my records) Nora Riddell, b. 1870 in Shelbyville, MO, d. in Kansas City, MO spouse: Unknown Rinehart Frank Riddell, b. 1874 in Shelbyville, MO, d. in Kansas City, MO As you can see, I have my family completed but have not done as well in finding Lillian's sibling's families. Please put this family on your unknown list in the hopes that someone else might be researching this line.

Just a general note. I am so afraid of getting a virus that I do not open an e'mail that has no subject unless I know for sure who the sender was. I just delete them.

Jack, Did you mean "Thomas (brother to Johnson) who married Sarah Carmack," instead of John? Robin L. Poindexter

Jack, If you don't mind my asking, who are your parents and grandparents? Robin L. Poindexter

Rodney, Interesting stuff!!!! Thanks for sharing. Robin L. Poindexter

Mary, Am I correct that John RIDDLE of UTAH (d. 1887) is the son of William "The Tory" RIDDLE, and brother to Joseph and James? Robin L. Poindexter

I wonder if the name of a son, "Johnson" had anything to do with the Moses JOHNSON family???? I finally discovered that the "Euricas ANDERSON' who was guardian of some of the children of Cornelius ROBERTS after his death was Erikas ANDERSON the father of Peter ANDERSON who md Sinai ROBERTS (d/o Cornelius) and lived in Jackson Co, TN until death of Peter. RDV A widow of Euricas ANDERSON, or Erikas, Jr, md a HATFIELD.

Hi Riddle "cousins": After putting this together realized it is rather long and rambling... sorry. But maybe somebody will find an answer they have been looking for. Jan in Omaha, NE _____________________ I am descended from the Riddles that settled in Monson Massachusetts that G. T. Ridlon lists in the "Ancient Ryedales.." book starting on page 277 with Thomas Ridel (Riddell) b. Tyrone County Ireland came to US in 1739 and d. 1809. My direct line continues through his son Joseph b. 1763 Monson, MA m. Mary (or Polly)-8 children. Next in my direct line was his son Freeborn Moulton Riddle B. Sept. 18, 1793, m. (first) Abigail Chaffee of Alexander NY-8 children, Next was his son Trumbull Cary Riddle b. Aug 12, 1823 m. Sarah Maragret Colt (Lockport NY)... in 1856 moved to Grinnell, Iowa then to Chapin, Franklin County, Iowa where he is buried in the old Chapin Cemetery along with several riddles. From that point forward to the living my records are pretty complete if anybody is any of Trumbull's descendents... Trumbull Cary had two sons, William Avery and Herman Cary and three daughters, (that lived past childhood) (2 daughters and 1 son died as infants). Trumbull Cary Riddle, along with several other Riddles, are buried in the Old Chapin Cemetery near Hampton, Iowa. In 1981, Mr. Reuben Burmester of Hampton Historical Society went to the cemetery and reported that in addition to Trumbull's tombstone there was a McCord child [one of Trumbull's daughters married a McCord] on Lot 47. On Lot 79 there are 6 Riddle tombstones. J.S. Riddle - Father Nov 5, 1827-Feb 27, 1906; F. A. Riddle, Mother Aug. 12, 1828-Dec. 6, 1904; Myrtle Riddle Sept 15, 1878-Feb 8, 1901; Maudie Riddle, daughter of W.H. and A.V. Riddle Dec. 12, 1883-March 28, 1889; W.H. Riddle Nov. 18, 1863-Mar 4, 1925; A.V. Riddle (Mrs. W.H)Aug 4, 1866-Nov. 13, 1941. In addition he discovered William Avery Riddle (son of Trumbull Cary or T.C. as he was known)is buried at the Hampton cemetary on Lot 25 with 3 others (his wife and her parents). In the Franklin County, Iowa Clerks Office he also found a Gustina Riddle death record that states that she died December 4, 1898 and was 75 years of age at death. She died in Westfork Twonship and is buried in Hall Town Cemetery, Franklin County, Iowa. In my research a research historian in Hampton, Iowa shared some handwritten research records she had with me (through Mr. Burmester). They include: William Avery W.P.A. (W.A.) 1859 to 1936 (Hampton Cem) Grew up at Old Chapin, Farmer 160 acres 31 sec. Ross Twp. In Franklin Co. he married Florence Rowe native of England, Sister of W.H. Rowe Child - 1 dau. Lola, wife of O. J. Clock. of Geneva. He has been twp. trustee 6 yrs. Belongs Masons - Sheffield (in the margin is) W.P.A. Florence C. 1859-1928 Hampton Cem. Muster Rolls 1864 2 Riddle, Joseph, 2 Corp. Age 36 P.O. Hampton, Ingham, B. North C. 56 Riddle, James Solomon, Priv. Age 35 P.O. Chapin, Twp. Clinton Born Ohio W.P.A. 1827 to 2-22-1906 Old Chapin Hist. 1914 Honor Roll - Franklin Co. IA James H. Riddle - died of wounds at Vicksburg, Miss. June 3, 1863 Hist. 1914 French P. 105 John L. French Mar. 7th-11-1875 Miss Mary Riddle dau. of James Henry and Elizabeth (Mills Lagel) Riddle James Native of N.C. died Civil War Elizabeth Native of PA The French's lived Faulkner area NEXT PAGE: Riddle Hist. Chapin & Ross Twp. 1858 T.C. Riddle settled Sec. 36, Richland Twp. Later moved to Ross twp. Son William Avery Riddle (named after Rev. W'm Avery. W.P.A. (T.C. Riddle d. 1-24-1877 - 53 yrs. Old Chapin Cem.) Mar. Rec. 292 Mc.Cord. R. H. to Idell C. Riddle 3-Jul-1872 [this was T.C.Riddle's daughter] Hist. 1883 P. 462 Marian Twp. James S. Riddle W.P.A. J.S. 1827 to 2-22-1906 Old Chapin Cem. Parents: F.M. & Abigal (Chaffee) Riddle Born: Genesee Co. NY, Nov 5, 1827 Remained til 1851 when he came to Grinnell, IA then Marshalltown, IA remained till 1864 then came to Franklin Co., IA Married Anna Harrington on his 19th birthday Nov 5, 1846 Child Laura and Willie Hist. 1914 P. 110 W.A. Riddle Resided Franklin County entire life. He and wife owns a farm on 160 acres. Sec. 31, Ross twp. ---------------------

Hi all, Robin's probably right about the year 2006. I had posted that the year of release will be 2002, which I thought we were told in the Library. I probably did not remember correctly. Anyway, it's not available now. Mary Hill At 07:14 AM 7/2/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Sharon, >Census records are not released to the public for 76 years. Therefore, an >ancestor born in 1926 wouldn't show up until 1930, and the 1930 census won't >be available until 2006. >Robin L. Poindexter > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! > > > >

Hi, Thought I would mention that I saw an Asa Riddle in Obion Co., TN in about 1840. Have no idea if he's connected to your Asa. Mary Hill At 04:55 AM 7/2/1999 -0400, you wrote: >I saw you inquiry in Tobias Riddle in Logan Co and I wanted to let you know that I am researching Fred Riddle of Logan Co who was my G Grandfather. I have run across Tobias in research but I haven't figured out the connection as yet.... Fred Riddle was a son of Ishom, who was the son of Asa, who was the son of Tyree of Stokes Co. N. C....