Also remember, if your Riddles lived outside of the tribal boundaries, they would not be included on the tribal census rolls

This is great info. - thanks for sharing! Mary Hill At 03:57 PM 7/13/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Hello fellow listers, >I went to our local LDS FHC, and they have a couple of microfilms on file, that I will share with you. >On microfilm #0962366 >CHOCTAWS BY BLOOD >NAME ROLL NO. >Riddle, William 184 > " ,Ella 185 > " , Mary Belle 186 > " ,Arthur Lee 187 > " , Robert 188 > " , Jesse 7790 > " , Lorin A. 8916 > " , George W. 8984 > " , Edmond K. 8985 > " , Melinee 8986 > " , Samuel L. 8987 > " , Eureka J. 8988 > " , Thomas J. 8989 > " , Richard R. 9071 > " , Shingo L. 9072 > " , Daisy K. 9073 > " , Mary A. 10755 > " , Thelma D. 10756 > " , Bartis G. 10757 > " , Dolphis A. 10915 > " , Oscar 10916 > " , Jesse G. 10917 > " , Siney 11826 > " , Sam 12767 > " , Cephus 12768 > " , Cillin 12769 > " , Georgian 12770 > " , Sallie 12957 > " , Coleman 13056 > " , Nancy 13057 > " , Lucinda 14831 > " , John W. 15049 > " , Susan 15694 > >MINOR CHOCTAWS >Riddle, Bonnie Bess 199 > " , Eitle Florence 622 > >CHOCTAWS BY MARRIAGE >Riddle, Elvarine A. 160 > " , Florence 288 > " , Ella 355 > " , Henrietta 807 > " , Fannie 1110 > >CHOCTAW FREEDMEN >Riddle, Pearlie 1441 > " , John 2717 > " , Stewart 3683 > " , Jackson 4303 > " , Liza 4631 > " , Willie 4846 > " , Peter 4848 > " , Mun 4849 > >MINOR CHOCTAW FREEDMEN >Riddle, Joseph 119 > " , Edgar 417 > >CHEROKEES BY BLOOD >Riddle, Louisa E. 7526 > " , Giles H. 7527 > " , Lula May 7528 > " , Fannie J. 7991 > " , Ida J. 7992 > " , Frederick F. 7993 > " , Fannie M. 7994 > " , Dewey L. 7995 > " , Lillian R. 7996 > " , Henry 17882 > " , Francis Thomas 7997 > " , Edna Lee 7529 > >MINOR CHEROKEES BY BLOOD >Riddle, Mabel F. 1869 > " , George William 1708 > > >On microfilm #0908371 the second item on the roll is >FINAL ROLLS OF CITIZENS & FREEMAN >It is on this roll, where you find the amount of blood the above listed people have in them (what per centage is Indian), their ages as of 1902 (some have other dates), >the sex, and the census card no. they are listed on. >For example; >page 2 >184. Riddle, William is 48 as of 1902, he is a male that is 1/2 Indian, and is listed on census card no. 96. Also listed directly below him are his supposed children, who are all 1/4 Indian, also listed on census card no. 96; > Ella > Mary Belle > Arthur Lee > Robert > >Unfortunately I did not find my ancestors here. I am still looking for that index of application numbers, and have not been able to find it. This is very complicated!!! >There are the 5 civilized tribes and there are numerous rolls and lists that your ancestors could be listed on. I do hope that maybe some more Riddle rooters could go to their LDS center and find a microfilm to order (if it is not already in stock), and write things down to send in to the list. > >Sincerely, >Laura Clark >. > >Sincerely, >Laura Clark > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

Never thought I'd see a Mutt Riddle. My aunt Rachel McWhorter is nick named Mutt...only because she had a pet goat that followed her around. When she had rheumatic fever the goat would go round and round the house yelling, "Mutt, Mutt"....thus etc. Managed to get into the house one day. Jumped in bed with her!!!! Don't know exactly what this story has to do with genealolgy.<g> Linda ---------- From: WShoes8222@aol.com To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIDDLE-L] MUTT RIDDLE Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:01 PM Who asked about Mutt Riddle a few weeks ago ? Anyone know. I found a Mutt Riddle in a Cemetery that I was searching ? Lynn ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html

Here are the RIDDLEs I am searching: 1870 Franklin Co census: RIDDLE Martha (h) age 33 Widow dob: 1837 Jessie (son) age 18 dob: 1852 John (son) age 16 dob: 1854 Clara (dau) age 14 dob: 1856 1880 Franklin Co. census: RIDDLE, Martha J (h) Widow age 53 dob: 1827(?) John (son) age 25 dob: 1855 married to: Mealia age 21 dob:1859 (Martha's dau-in-law) Sammie (son to John) age 4/12 dob:1880 (Martha's grandson) Looking for info on which RIDDLE Martha was married to and other children. John and Mealia also had a daughter named Ann. Both Sammie and Ann married WRIGHT, brother and sister - Lorenzo Dow (Tom) WRIGHT, Jr. and Sarah Margaret WRIGHT from Scott Co., KY. See any connection? TIA, Sarah sblant@monumental.com

Hello fellow listers, I went to our local LDS FHC, and they have a couple of microfilms on file, that I will share with you. On microfilm #0962366 CHOCTAWS BY BLOOD NAME ROLL NO. Riddle, William 184 " ,Ella 185 " , Mary Belle 186 " ,Arthur Lee 187 " , Robert 188 " , Jesse 7790 " , Lorin A. 8916 " , George W. 8984 " , Edmond K. 8985 " , Melinee 8986 " , Samuel L. 8987 " , Eureka J. 8988 " , Thomas J. 8989 " , Richard R. 9071 " , Shingo L. 9072 " , Daisy K. 9073 " , Mary A. 10755 " , Thelma D. 10756 " , Bartis G. 10757 " , Dolphis A. 10915 " , Oscar 10916 " , Jesse G. 10917 " , Siney 11826 " , Sam 12767 " , Cephus 12768 " , Cillin 12769 " , Georgian 12770 " , Sallie 12957 " , Coleman 13056 " , Nancy 13057 " , Lucinda 14831 " , John W. 15049 " , Susan 15694 MINOR CHOCTAWS Riddle, Bonnie Bess 199 " , Eitle Florence 622 CHOCTAWS BY MARRIAGE Riddle, Elvarine A. 160 " , Florence 288 " , Ella 355 " , Henrietta 807 " , Fannie 1110 CHOCTAW FREEDMEN Riddle, Pearlie 1441 " , John 2717 " , Stewart 3683 " , Jackson 4303 " , Liza 4631 " , Willie 4846 " , Peter 4848 " , Mun 4849 MINOR CHOCTAW FREEDMEN Riddle, Joseph 119 " , Edgar 417 CHEROKEES BY BLOOD Riddle, Louisa E. 7526 " , Giles H. 7527 " , Lula May 7528 " , Fannie J. 7991 " , Ida J. 7992 " , Frederick F. 7993 " , Fannie M. 7994 " , Dewey L. 7995 " , Lillian R. 7996 " , Henry 17882 " , Francis Thomas 7997 " , Edna Lee 7529 MINOR CHEROKEES BY BLOOD Riddle, Mabel F. 1869 " , George William 1708 On microfilm #0908371 the second item on the roll is FINAL ROLLS OF CITIZENS & FREEMAN It is on this roll, where you find the amount of blood the above listed people have in them (what per centage is Indian), their ages as of 1902 (some have other dates), the sex, and the census card no. they are listed on. For example; page 2 184. Riddle, William is 48 as of 1902, he is a male that is 1/2 Indian, and is listed on census card no. 96. Also listed directly below him are his supposed children, who are all 1/4 Indian, also listed on census card no. 96; Ella Mary Belle Arthur Lee Robert Unfortunately I did not find my ancestors here. I am still looking for that index of application numbers, and have not been able to find it. This is very complicated!!! There are the 5 civilized tribes and there are numerous rolls and lists that your ancestors could be listed on. I do hope that maybe some more Riddle rooters could go to their LDS center and find a microfilm to order (if it is not already in stock), and write things down to send in to the list. Sincerely, Laura Clark . Sincerely, Laura Clark

Hi, Mary I just returned from the FHC and found my ggggrandfather in the 1870 N.C. cenus. (Haywood County) It shows him being 49 yrs. old. Born in S.C. abt.1821. My gggrandfathers death certificate says his mother and father were born in N.C. Also are the people listed after him his family ? They left the last name off everyone but him. The person after him is Adtine 50 or 60 yrs.old keepinghouse, next Obe(d or t) 20yrs old farm labor, then Terry 18 yrs. old farm labor. I'm guessing the death certificate had the wrong state. for there birthplace. My gggrandfather was nowhere to be found in 1870 N.C. or S. C. he would have been 17 yrs. old. He doesn't show up again until 1900 cenus in Anderson county S.C. married with 6 children. I feel like I have hit a brick wall with Silas any suggestions were to look next. Thanks, Diane

WRiddle111@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone on the Riddle Web have any idea how the song; "The 12th of Never" > came to be known as "The Riddle Song?" While in Denver, CO recently I > purchased a CD by Russell Cook playing Hammer Dulcimer instrumentals... and > one selection was "The Riddle Song" with The 12th of Never in ( ).... I had > never seen that. Just curious.... William Riddle, Tucson, AZ > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html William, I'm a music teacher, so I know this one! "The Riddle Song" is the older song, Irish I think; the "Twelfth Of Never" simply uses the same tune, but more modern words. The lyrics in the original song all ask questions, hence the name "Riddle". Molly Dixon

Hi, Much of this information has been filmed by the FHL in SLC. These rolls can be ordered from a local FHL. The FHL Catalog is now available online at www.familysearch.org - custom searches - Family History Library Catalog. This may be next- best to a trip to Forth Worth! Mary Hill At 11:03 AM 7/13/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I found out yesterday: >In 1934 the federal government transferred the historical records of >Oklahoma's Indian tribes to the OHS. >Native American Records collections contain 3.5 million documents >representing 66 of the 67 native tribes that resided in Indian >Territory. >Osage records can be found at the SW Branch of the Nat'l Archives >in Ft Worth. >They also have the 112 volume, Indian-Pioneer History, a collection >of oral histories done by the Federal Writers Project in 1937. > >This was not all but what a place to start. >Happy Huntin' >Cathie > > > >Dear Cathie, > >I do remember, somehow, finding out about rolls...I think there was >something on the internet about finding out which rolls a certain >surname >would be on. I got a new computer, and have not straightened things out >completely, yet. But I do know the supposed roll numbers. >Thanks again, >Laura Clark > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

I found out yesterday: In 1934 the federal government transferred the historical records of Oklahoma's Indian tribes to the OHS. Native American Records collections contain 3.5 million documents representing 66 of the 67 native tribes that resided in Indian Territory. Osage records can be found at the SW Branch of the Nat'l Archives in Ft Worth. They also have the 112 volume, Indian-Pioneer History, a collection of oral histories done by the Federal Writers Project in 1937. This was not all but what a place to start. Happy Huntin' Cathie Dear Cathie, I do remember, somehow, finding out about rolls...I think there was something on the internet about finding out which rolls a certain surname would be on. I got a new computer, and have not straightened things out completely, yet. But I do know the supposed roll numbers. Thanks again, Laura Clark

Who asked about Mutt Riddle a few weeks ago ? Anyone know. I found a Mutt Riddle in a Cemetery that I was searching ? Lynn

I debated on whether to post this to the list but here goes. I have been living dangerously I guess but I didn't have an antivirus program until yesterday. Never have had virus. Been lucky I guess. I downloaded an antivirus program yesterday and just wanted to pass the info on to the group. It is a free program, Freeware they call it. You can get it at: http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=0010V7 At 12:16 AM 7/13/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/10/99 6:29:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >mevhill@burgoyne.com writes: > ><< Hi Dan, > > Thanks so much for sharing this with us. I guess this virus thing is for > real. I am updating my Iomega Zip disks this evening - I have too much good > stuff from all of you to loose! > > Mary Hill > >> > >Thanks for the thought, Mary. The information we deal is just too meaningful >to take any kind of chance with. Viruses, worms, and little things like hard >drives crashing without notice -- I'm probably over-reacting, but I'm >writing GEDCOMs to diskette everytime I update the database. I'm also >tremendously relieved that Rootsweb has archives of our e-mails by surname. > >Keep up the great and fascinating work, Mary. Observing your work is like >reading a treatise on methods in research. You may not know it, but you're >setting a wonderful example for some of us out here who are still dummies and >klutzes but striving to rise up out of the muck, genealogically speaking! > >Best regards. > >Dan > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > > > >

As a computer techie, I recommend either a ZIP Drive, Jazz Drive made by IOMEGA for backing up your hard drives. When you use a tape, the tapes can either stretch or break. Ever remember a cassette TAPE getting *eaten* in your recorder. What happens if your tape drive eats a tape? There goes your backup. Just my professional opinion. Steve Riddle >Hello Riddle/Riddell Rooters, > >While virus scanning software is great, there is another large help out >there that I have not heard anyone mention. The periodic practice of >backing up ones hard disk onto disks or better yet onto a tape back-up is >the best. Yes, it does cost a few dollars for the equipment, but this also >protects ones system against many other types of crashes and glitches. I >have an internal drive but, as I understand it, external tape drives can be >shared with others. Thjis will help with cost. Just remember to do it >periodically or during and after entering large amounts of data. > >Having several rotated tapes backing up a hard disk really makes one sleep >better at night. :) > >Charlie > > > > > >Charles S Riddle >cridd00@hsonline.net > ^^ (Above these are zeros.) > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > > > My Family Tree Web Page.. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/i/d/Steve-Riddle/ I am related to FOUR different families that came over on the Mayflower in 1620, both "John Howland", "John Alden", "Edward Fuller" and "John Tilley". Go to the Bottom and click on "Desecents of John Howland" (He came across on the Mayflower in 1620) Also I have listed, "John Alden" who also I am related too. Check out the "FULL DETAILED" versions. Over 11,844+ names now. Check it out. Revised at 7-5-1999 If you can help me, I'm still looking for information on my great great grandfather, "John W. Riddle b. 1812 d. 1852 and Margaret Humphrey b. 1806 d. 1892 his wife" who were both from the Butler County, PA area. I would like to know who the *PARENTS* are of my John W. Riddle. My Genealogy is John Howland & Elizabeth Tilley, Desire Howland & John Gorham, Mercy Gorham & George Denison, Samuel Denison & Mary Lay Miner, Sarah Denison & William Babcock, Sarah Babcock & George Irish, Rebecca Irish & Charles Bowler, William Davis Bowler & Nancy Coon, Prudence C. Bowler & Elijah Homes Coon, Julius Jerome Coon & Nance Wade, Julia Jay Coon & Edward Newton Riddle, Julius Newton Riddle & Mary Christine Clemens, Edward Newton Riddle & Marilyn Dunlop (my parents) and them ME- Steven Edward Riddle ~~~ Check out my REVISED WEB Pages at: http://www.SteveRiddle.com ~~~ http://www.SteveRiddle.com/Computers If you need to send a Message to me *immediately*, you can send a TEXT MESSAGE to my Sprint PCS telephone via your E-mail at: 7146125346@messaging.sprintpcs.com (please limit your message to 100 words or less).

I am looking for information on G.M.W. Riddle that married a Johnson. They lived in Riddle, Oregon in the early 1900's. Thanks for any help, Carol

>Does anyone on the Riddle Web have any idea how the song; "The 12th of Never" >came to be known as "The Riddle Song?" While in Denver, CO recently I >purchased a CD by Russell Cook playing Hammer Dulcimer instrumentals... and >one selection was "The Riddle Song" with The 12th of Never in ( ).... I had >never seen that. Just curious.... William Riddle, Tucson, AZ Because it asks riddles and answers them, of course.

----- Original Message ----- From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > Dear Cathie, > > I do remember, somehow, finding out about rolls...I think there was > something on the internet about finding out which rolls a certain surname > would be on. I got a new computer, and have not straightened things out > completely, yet. But I do know the supposed roll numbers. > Thanks again, > Laura Clark > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 3:19 AM > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > > >Laura, > >You need to find out if they have a roll number or are on the reject > >list. If you find a roll number, you can make application for > >membership > >in the tribe. > > > >The regional Federal Archives for this area is in Ft Worth, Tx > >The Okla Historical Archives is another great source for Indian > >research. I will stop in there today and see what kind of info > >I can get on their holdings. They are one of the best archives > >for Indian research. > > > >Cathie > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> > >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 11:13 PM > >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > > > > > >>Dear Cathie, > >>thank you for that bit of information. However, I know that both John > >H. > >>Riddle and Sarah Lundry were both listed with application numbers. > >>How does that affect our family? > >>Laura Clark > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Cathie Parker <cparker@telepath.com> > >>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 10:25 PM > >>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > >> > >> > >>>Hi Laura, > >>>The Western Cherokee Tribe dropped a member from their > >>>roll if the person moved off the reservation and if they moved back > >>>onto the reservation, they were added to the roll again. This was > >>>very common where a Cherokee woman married a white man and > >>>moved off the reservation with him. > >>> > >>>Good Luck, > >>>Cathie > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: Laura L. Clark <clarkfla@innw.net> > >>>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 3:26 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hey, everyone... > >>>>I know that my John Riddle was part Indian. We have always been > >under > >>>the > >>>>impression that he was Cherokee. I have not sent off for any solid > >>>>information from the Dawes Rolls, or Millers Rolls. But I do have > >>>John's > >>>>application numbers and his wife, Sarah Lundry's application numbers. > >>>>I also remember that the BIA advised me in a letter that if they > >moved > >>>off > >>>>the Indian property, they somehow lost their rights as Indians, that > >>>is. > >>>>I have not attempted to get the proof, as the BIA wants proof of > >>>ancestry, > >>>>which I do not have. I know certain facts, as they are proven. This > >>>is by > >>>>marriage licenses, and by lore handed down to relatives that can > >still > >>>show > >>>>us the right graves, and most of what they have said has panned out > >as > >>>>truth. Maybe a couple of years off, but still the truth. Census > >>>reports > >>>>have also proven ancestry. > >>>>But when our John Riddle moved to Missouri, and then one of his sons > >>>(the > >>>>only one we know about) moves down to Randolph County, Arkansas, this > >>>is > >>>>where the proof is lost. The original court house burned down, and > >my > >>>>grandmother could never prove when she was born, or to whom she was > >>>born. > >>>>I now have a picture of my g-g-grandfather, thanks to a new cousin > >(Erv > >>>>Riddle), and he does look like an Indian. Many have said he looks > >>>>full-blooded Cherokee. My scanner is on the blitz, so I cannot scan > >>>this > >>>>picture and put it on the net. Wish I could. There is also a > >picture > >>>of > >>>>Meredith's daughter, Aunt Jennie Riddle White. She definitely does > >not > >>>look > >>>>like an Indian! Or at least not to me. > >>>>So, if anyone has a way to check the Dawes Rolls without proving > >>>ancestry or > >>>>saying to which tribe or clan of which tribe, let me know. I will > >find > >>>>those numbers again, and we can ascertain what the records say about > >>>this > >>>>Riddle branch. > >>>> > >>>>Sincerely, > >>>>Laura Clark > >>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> > >>>>To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>>>Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 9:36 PM > >>>>Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Indian connection > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I have records I found last month of William Riddle, a white man, > >who > >>>>>married a Choctaw woman, Cathy. He was an interpreter for the > >Choctaw > >>>>>nation and died in 1818. His sons and grandchildren are on the > >Choctaw > >>>>>rolls right up to the 20th century. > >>>>> > >>>>>Mary Hill > >>>>> > >>>>>At 04:42 PM 7/8/1999 EDT, you wrote: > >>>>>>Thanks Diane, it doesn't help now because I just don't know enough, > >>>but I > >>>>>>will keep the info and it might come in handy later. There have > >been > >>>so > >>>>many > >>>>>>references to Riddles being at least part Cherokee that I believe > >>>that > >>>>it's > >>>>>>so. Charlotte A. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>>>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion > >List------------------ > >>>>>> Do you have an idea for this space? > >>>>>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! > >>>>>> rebecca@collector.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > >>>>> Do you have an idea for this space? > >>>>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! > >>>>> rebecca@collector.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > >>>> We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE > >Query... > >>>> What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > >>>> You'll never know unless you post again! > >>>> RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > >>> We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > >>> What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > >>> You'll never know unless you post again! > >>> RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > >> Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > >> Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > >> http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > > > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > The information you seek can be found in two books written and published by Bob Blankenship: CHEROKEE ROOTS. You can call him at 704-497-9709, or write him at P.O. Box 525, Cherokee, NC 28719. In Volume 2, WESTERN CHEROKEE ROLLS, I found the following Riddles listed on Dawes/Guion Miller Rolls-1898-1914: Dewey L, Edna L, Fannie J, Fannie M, Fred F, George William, Giles H, Grace T, Henry, Ida, Leona, Lillian R, Louisa E, Lula M, and Mabel F. If any of these are family names, you are in luck. I have been reading and listening to all your discussions. For the group: both my grandmothers were Riddles, and, yes, I am my own cousin. So I hug me quite often! Patricia Yeary Stallard Wise and Lee County, VA, Riddles >

You will have to be the judge of that. I got mine from Higginson and I think just about everyone else did. A yard sale would be great if it served your purpose. Cathie -----Original Message----- From: Russell D Merryman <RDMerry@webtv.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 2:46 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [RIDDLE-L] About Riddle Books --WebTV-Mail-21574-457 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello! I've noticed that other publishers as well offer the "Ancient Book of Reydales" would there be much of any difference in quality or format. Any advantages of purchasing the book from one company over the other? I know of another company I saw, Blair Books, which also has it, as well as does Higginson. Any advise or opinions here! Thanks, Russ --WebTV-Mail-21574-457 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id MAA17519; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08908; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907121903.MAA29201@bl-3.rootsweb.com> Reply-To: <djmoore@nb.net> From: "Doris Moore" <djmoore@nb.net> Old-To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] About Riddle Books Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:19:27 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <BfJxID.A.CLC.hwji3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4026 X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com Higginsons charges $10.00 more for any book with hardback. Doris ---------- > From: Steve Riddle <sriddle@lnx.net> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] About Riddle Books > Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 4:31 PM > > At 07:53 PM 7/11/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello everyone! > > > >Can someone tell me if that other book on the Riddle name called the > >"Ancient book of Ryedales" available from Higginson Book Co., -- does > >it come in hard back bound/ as well as paper back? > > > >Thanks, > >Russ > > > Russ, > > I know it defiantly does come in a Hardback edition. Not sure of the paper > back one. > > > Steve Riddle > > > > > My Family Tree Web Page.. > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/r/i/d/Steve-Riddle/ > > I am related to FOUR different families that came over on the Mayflower in > 1620, both "John Howland", "John Alden", "Edward Fuller" and "John Tilley". > > Go to the Bottom and click on "Desecents of John Howland" (He came across > on the Mayflower in 1620) Also I have listed, "John Alden" who also I am > related too. Check out the "FULL DETAILED" versions. > > Over 11,844+ names now. Check it out. > Revised at 7-5-1999 > > > If you can help me, I'm still looking for information on my great great > grandfather, "John W. Riddle b. 1812 d. 1852 and Margaret Humphrey b. 1806 > d. 1892 his wife" who were both from the Butler County, PA area. I would > like to know who the *PARENTS* are of my John W. Riddle. > > > > My Genealogy is John Howland & Elizabeth Tilley, Desire Howland & John Gorham, > Mercy Gorham & George Denison, Samuel Denison & Mary Lay Miner, > Sarah Denison & William Babcock, Sarah Babcock & George Irish, Rebecca > Irish & Charles Bowler, William Davis Bowler & Nancy Coon, Prudence C. > Bowler & Elijah Homes Coon, Julius Jerome Coon & Nance Wade, Julia Jay > Coon & Edward Newton Riddle, Julius Newton Riddle & Mary Christine > Clemens, Edward Newton Riddle & Marilyn Dunlop (my parents) and them > ME- Steven Edward Riddle > > > ~~~ Check out my REVISED WEB Pages at: http://www.SteveRiddle.com ~~~ > http://www.SteveRiddle.com/Computers > > If you need to send a Message to me *immediately*, you can send a TEXT > MESSAGE to my Sprint PCS telephone via your E-mail at: > 7146125346@messaging.sprintpcs.com (please limit your message to 100 words > or less). > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Have you posted your RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! --WebTV-Mail-21574-457-- ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! SMILE & pass it on!

Thanks Danny for the info from the above mentioned book. Now this adds to the problem of whether I want to get this book or not. The one document that I do have is the marriage certificate of James and Jennett Riddle, married in Madison, Halifax Co.,NC on Dec. 22, 1865. A difference in time and place from what the book says. Wouldn't it be nice if things came together nice and easy once in awhile? Now what do I do? I was planning on ordering the book tomorrow. Gotta give it more thought I guess. Charlotte A.

I figured that, just thought there was more to it... Perhaps not....

Russ I got mine hardbound from Higginson Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell D Merryman <RDMerry@webtv.net> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 10:53 PM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] About Riddle Books > Hello everyone! > > Can someone tell me if that other book on the Riddle name called the > "Ancient book of Ryedales" available from Higginson Book Co., -- does > it come in hard back bound/ as well as paper back? > > Thanks, > Russ > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Do you have an idea for this space? > E-mail the ListMom for more information! > rebecca@collector.org > > > >

Fran, I think you would be happy with a copy. There are many Benjamin's, Asa is there. I think I have seen this line in it but it is lots of info and it is scattered in different additions as new info came in it was updated so the newsletters were a continuing work in progress. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: <FTomblin@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle, Reddell, Ruddle Trail > Dear Danny, > Does the book mention Tobias Riddle,Benjamin Riddle or John Wesley Riddle of > VA /WVA? I bought the Ridlon Book and it makes no mention of this line. I > hate to spend the money without checking these things first. One person on > the net feels my line might be connected with Asa Riddle. Perhaps a cousin, > I'm still looking for clues. Thanks Fran > Tomblin > Ftomblin@aol.com > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >