Hello Cathy! That was interesting "history always is with all its' twists and turns. Thanks for the story related. Regards, Russ

Hello Linda Mayes! Thank you for your kindness in offering some assistance!! I will be reiterating my "Riddle line" in more detail as may be needed! Many-- Thanks Again! Russ RDMerry@webtv.net

Russell D Merryman wrote: > Hello everyone! > > Was wondering If anyone had gone to the various resting places of Riddle > family and descendants there in Texas; not just to pay respects but to > documented their markers for your record book and there having taken > photos of them? This being the case. Has anyone a set they will make > copies of for a nominal fee? > > Once our ancestors are gone, except but for some memories you may have; > there is little in the way of remembrances. Their markers are but > another remembrance! > > Thanks, > Russ > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > Hi Russ, Looks like you have given me an opportunity to contribute something . I'm new to the group and to genealogy, and up to now have not had anything to contribute - but have gotten such great information and encouragement for my own research from all of you and especially from Mary Hill. She clued me in to this list. I can't remember which line you descend from, but if you need pictures from Damascus Cemetery in Mt Pleasant, TX or Blevins Cemetery in Cason, TX I may be able to help. I come from the Isaac and Anna Riddle line (Blevins Cem.) and their daughter, Happy and Hollis Riggs (Damascus Cem. Mt Pleasant). I'm certain I have pictures of their markers. At one time I took a few pictures of some of the old Riddle markers at Damascus Cem. but will have to look and see what I have. I visit these cemeteries at least twice a year and keep flowers on their graves. Let me know if this is what you need. I'll be happy to send you what I have. Also, I live in Van Zandt County and volunteer at our small genealogy library. I have to admit I don't know what Riddles are buried here but can look them up. Linda Mays

Hi Russ, Mary (welcome back!) & list, This Sparks/Riddle connection reminded me of something that was in one of the pension files in my Parks/Riddle line. My WILLIAM RIDDLE, b 1803 KY/VA married POLLY PARKS, granddaughter of SAMUEL PARKS 1757-1844 who enlisted at the beginning of the Rev War and served over 3 years as Private with the North Carolina troops under Capt Lewis and Samuel Johnson or William Lenoir and Colonel Cleveland. It was also stated that a portion of the time he was engaged in the expedition against the Cherokee Indians. >From the SAMUEL PARKS pension file..."I was born November 28, 1757, in Amherst Co., Virginia. About 1767, father migrated to Rowan, now Wilkes Co., NC. There until 1796 moved to Burke co., (where he now lives). Father had 17 children, 8 sons and 9 daughters. Sons all married and left father before Revolution except myself and GEORGE PARKS. We both served in the Revolution. George at one time substituted for CORNELIUS SALE, a brother-in-law...." The GEORGE PARKS mentioned below is a brother of the above SAMUEL PARKS. >From the Revolutionary Pension File of GEORGE PARKS, b 5 Aug 1759 Amherst County, VA; died 4 December 1837 Ellettsville, Monroe County, IN; married #1 MILLICENT DAVIS; married #2 CATHERINE REED. Pension file # W27457. State of Indiana, Monroe County On this the tenth day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three ...... ......."This applicant and his party at another time took a third Tory and hung him in "Hugh Rottom." Not long after and all during said eighteen months service he and the said Company of Minute Men, captured old SOLOMON SPARKS a celebrated Tory. They employed a Whig from a distant neighborhood and a charges to said Old Tory to decoy him out of his house without his gun under the pretense of being a traveler and inquiring the road. They succeeded admirably. He fought bravely with arms and considerably injured this applicant by kicking him. He was sent down the Yadkin in a canoe. After tied hand and foot on his back he repeatedly hollered for "hurrah for King George." This applicant during said service was at the taking of PETER HOLD a Tory." Just thought I'd throw this in for thought. Cathy Riddle O'Connor kayomaxb@aol.com My William Riddle, b 19 Mar 1803 KY/VA; married 25 Mar 1830 to Polly Parks in Monroe Co, IN; died 13 Sept 1840 in Monroe Co, IN; they had children William T (Thomas/Thompson); Priscilla Caroline; George Marion; Harrison H Riddle. Can anyone connect this William 1803-1840 to the William (Tory) line?

Mary: I don't know if there is any connection, but John (son of William the tory) Riddle's son Johnson went to Missouri with sons Andrew Jackson and James. When this family arrived in Alabama, there was an Eliza with them. Some say this was a wife of one of the sons, others say this was a daughter born in Mo. I believe their mother was Jane Shepard. Johnson later married Martha Commack and had five children in Al, one of which was my gr/grandfather Jessie Duraney. Ronny Riddle

Hello list! I tried to fix one typo I had made and made another in relating who married who a Sparks married a daughter of America Jane Riddle and not her, herself. Please excuse my careless typos! Thanks, Russ

--WebTV-Mail-30475-11930 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello all! I made a typo, in previously sent message (below) David Elam Riddle married Jane Sparks. Further a Sparks man also married - into the RIddle line later - to America Jane Riddle. --WebTV-Mail-30475-11930 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.99) by postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-102-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id KAA02875; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14405; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:09:19 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAwfYmAMzWM3m6D2EaF00iWy+9T3ECFQCl6iXr4oofZEM5/lTSVhsu849Aaw== From: RDMerry@webtv.net (Russell D Merryman) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Old-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19655-3790B8A3-3868@postoffice-232.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle, Sparks & Cleveland connection Resent-Message-ID: <yRmnuC.A.ggD.9iLk3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4091 X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com Hello Mary and listeners! Anyone interested! (Those familiar with Wm. Riddles hanging by a Cleveland in the Rev. War). I found a possible "connection" between another attack on tories pursued by Cleveland. Where as he both shot and hung, as well as releasing some of the tories he had captured in this incident. (I first thought it could possible be the same incident; but wasn't sure)? But, now believe it to be a later one! In any event some of those soldiers present with Cleveland were Sparks. They gave an account of the incident from of course a view point of the opposing side of the War. I believe this to be the same (Sparks line) as is Jane Sparks who married David Elam Sparks; as well as the line of Sparks that later married into my Riddle lineage. I thought this all had a ring of "Civil War-ish" (feel to it)! Families against families (though unbeknownst to them in a future time they would be related) all this makes for - interesting story lines inter-merging together! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ If I can make what appears to be more conclusive finds I will update on findings (to any interested parties)! If anyone is interested. Regards, Russ ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Do you have an idea for this space? E-mail the ListMom for more information! rebecca@collector.org --WebTV-Mail-30475-11930--

Hello Mary and listeners! Anyone interested! (Those familiar with Wm. Riddles hanging by a Cleveland in the Rev. War). I found a possible "connection" between another attack on tories pursued by Cleveland. Where as he both shot and hung, as well as releasing some of the tories he had captured in this incident. (I first thought it could possible be the same incident; but wasn't sure)? But, now believe it to be a later one! In any event some of those soldiers present with Cleveland were Sparks. They gave an account of the incident from of course a view point of the opposing side of the War. I believe this to be the same (Sparks line) as is Jane Sparks who married David Elam Sparks; as well as the line of Sparks that later married into my Riddle lineage. I thought this all had a ring of "Civil War-ish" (feel to it)! Families against families (though unbeknownst to them in a future time they would be related) all this makes for - interesting story lines inter-merging together! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ If I can make what appears to be more conclusive finds I will update on findings (to any interested parties)! If anyone is interested. Regards, Russ

Russell D Merryman wrote: > > Hello everyone! > > Was wondering If anyone had gone to the various resting places of Riddle > family and descendants there in Texas; not just to pay respects but to > documented their markers for your record book and there having taken > photos of them? This being the case. Has anyone a set they will make > copies of for a nominal fee? > > Once our ancestors are gone, except but for some memories you may have; > there is little in the way of remembrances. Their markers are but > another remembrance! > > Thanks, > Russ > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > Russ, I have Riddle relatives who have lived in Sweetwater, TX for many years. I do have pictures of their gravesites in Sweetwater Cemetery. The oldest Riddles there was David Hall Riddle, b. in Jackson County, AL, ca. 1870, moved to Van Zandt County, TX, ca. 1900, then to Sweetwater in the 30's. His descendants are still there, and some are buried in Sweetwater. Also David's sister, Mary Elizabeth (Molly) Riddle Easttam, my grandmother, and her husband Boston Henry Easttam, lived there since the 30's and are buried in Sweetwater Cemetery along with my parents. I believe there are still Riddle's in Van Zandt County. Molly Dixon

Hi Riddle Researchers, Well, my "away" mode did not last very long. I will have to discipline myself and not spend hours answering too many things. But you all have insight I need, so here goes again. I found a group of marriages in Cass Co., Missouri I am interesting in identifying: RIDDLE, Caroline to SAVAGE, James 10 May 1846 RIDDLE, Jackson to JACKSON, Malinda 01 Jun 1851 RIDDLE, James to IDSOM, Eliza 26 Jun 1853 RIDDLE, Lydia to WILLIAMS, John 27 Mar 1859 RIDDLE, Malinda to CREEK, Milton 06 Mar 1836 RIDDLE, Riley to BURGAN, Sally 16 Feb 1845 RIDDLE, Riley to SHELTON, Lydia L 2 Jul 1854 RIDDLE, Simpson to WOODS, Abigail M 2 Jan 1851 RIDDLE, Sintha Ann to STEPHENS, William 22 Aug 1842 RIDDLE, Tiry B to ELRIDGE, Sarah 29 Sep 1852 RIDDLE, Uria to SHELTON, Charles 9 Apr 1853 I believe Simpson Riddle is a son of John Riddle, who went to Utah. Simpson Riddle left the family in Utah and returned to the East. He fought in the Civil War. I am interested to see that there is a Tiry B. Riddle here too. We are trying to figure out if these could be cousins. And Jackson Riddle is here too, Walter. It that our Jackson Riddle? Is this a group of cousins, in Cass Co., MO in the early 1850's? I am realizing how much I need all of you! Mary Hill

Welcome back Mary, we missed you. Diane

Josephine, I am newly subscribed to the South Central Kentucky Mail List, but I'm unfamiliar with the location of there archives. Where are they? Robin L. Poindexter

This is Part #2 of the Riddle Births. Josephine Hall ajh43@msn.com or ajh43@hotmail.com From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@scrtc.blue.net> To: "South Central Kentucky Counties Query list" <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu> Subject: CUMBERLAND CO VITALS CONT. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 16:59:17 -0500 Errors-to: <sgorin@scrtc.blue.net> Sender: Maiser@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu X-listname: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 (via Mercury MTS (Bindery) v1.30) More RIDDLE vital stats from Cumberland Co. (Births) John, born 1 Dec 1858, son of Isaac F &Frances W (Glidewell) Riddle. John T, born 6 Apr 1878, son of J O & Malisa C (Watkins) Riddle. L F, born 20 May 1904, dau of A W & O A (Williams) Riddle, father born Clinton Co, mother born Cumberland Co. Martha E, born 9 Aug 1855, dau of J W & Mary Polly Riddle Mary Elizabeth, born 31 Jan 1878, dau Isaac & Frances (Perdue) Riddle. Nancy, born 1 May 1855, dau of Joseph F &Nancy (Hughes) Riddle. Nathan T, born 1859, son of John N & Hassey? Jane Riddle. Female, born 19 Aug 1904, dau of J A & Lou (Shootians), father born Cumberland, mother born Fayette Co. Female, born 11 Oct 1907, dau W M & Mary Riddle (parents born Cumb. Co) Male, born 25 Oct 1910, son of J A & Liza (Shoopman) Riddle, parents both born Cumb. O, born 2 Jan 1857, dau of Henry R and Nancy (Rush) Riddle. Orin, born 12 Apr 1910, son of T E and Laury (Wray), parents born TN. P B?, born Aug 1875, son of J C & M F (Perdue) Riddle, father aborn Clinton Co, mother born Cumb. Co. Rhoda, born 16 Oct 1909, dau C S & Laura (Daniel) Riddle,resided Peytons- burg, parents born KY. Rhoda E, born 16 Dec 1853, dau Nathan R & Sarah (Jones) Riddle. Ryntha Ann, born 1 Aug 1853, dau Joseph & Nancy(Hinges?) Riddle Sarilda?, born 22 Nov 1854, dau Wash A & Sarah (Grider) Riddle. Sarah F, born 3 June 1878, dau J C & T J (Ashlock) Riddle. Susan Jane, born 31 Dec 1861, dau Henry & Nancy (Rush) Riddle, parents born KY. William G, born 17 Nov 1878, son of James & Susan Riddle. William J, born 24 Aug 1857, son Isaac & Frances Glidewell Ritter. Conclusion. Sandi ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin sgorin@scrtc.blue.net 205 Clements Ave, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409. (502) 651-9114

I found this in the South Central Kentucky Archives and thought it might help some of you on the list. Josephine Hall ajh43@msn.com or ajh43@hotmail.com From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@scrtc.blue.net> To: "South Central Kentucky Counties Query list" <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu> Subject: CUMBERLAND CO VITAL STATISTICS Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:25:08 -0500 Errors-to: <sgorin@scrtc.blue.net> Sender: Maiser@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu X-listname: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rmgate.pop.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 (via Mercury MTS (Bindery) v1.30) Taken from my publication. RIDDLE BIRTHS: 24 Apr 1894 - Bradley, son of John W & Martla Apleby [sic], father born Clinton Co, mother born Cumberland Co. 14 May 1904 - C B (male) son of S D & S A (Claborn) Riddle, father born Cumberland Co; mother born TN, resided at the Peytons. 00 July 1874 - C E (female), dau of J C & T J (Ashlock) Riddle, father born Cumberland Co KY, mother born TN. 1 June 1904 - C M, son of W M C & T A (Craft) Riddle. 31 Jan 1861 - Cely F, son of Nathan R & Mary (Pierce) Riddle, both parents born TN. 6 May 1904 - Chester, son of J W & M M (Hudson) Riddle, both parents born Clinton Co, resided Whetstone. 1 June 1904 - Claude E, son of Joseph R and Lizzie (Carter) Riddle, both parents born Cumberland Co, resided Forrest. 19 Jan? 1857 - Dosha, dau of Wash & Sarah (Grider) Riddle. 9 Mar 1858 - George W, son of Henry R & Nancy (Rush) Riddle. 15 May 1894 - H---?, no sex readable, child of Bake? & L--- (Shoopman) Riddle, both parents born Cumberland Co. 17 Aug 1855 - Henry Jackson, son A C & Sarah (Jones) Riddle. 6 Apr 1855 - Henry W, son of Nathan R & Mary (Pearce) Riddle. 00 Sept 1907 - Ina, dau J H & Mary Lucy Riddle, all born Cumberland Co. 4 July 1858 - Jacob R - son William P & Lucy (Bowe) Riddle. 17 May 1855 - James A - son Henry R ( Nancy (Rush) Riddle. 9 Nov 1893 - James E - son Nath & Arlee (Garner) Riddle, parents born KY 15 Aug 1855 - James R - son Isaac A & Frances Ann (Glidwell) Riddle. 4 Aug 1910 - Jesse - son Virgil & Shalotts (Flowers) Riddle. 9 May 1910 - Jesse F - son W T & M (Sheffield) Riddle, father born KY, mother born Cumberland Co, resided Bow. 12 Apr 1859 - Jesse W, son Jamess W & Mary (Petty) Riddle To be continued: ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin sgorin@scrtc.blue.net 205 Clements Ave, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409. (502) 651-9114

Hi Mary I hope this message is not too late to get to you. I've been out of town for a few days and just saw that you have unsubscribed from the Riddle List. You have been the backbone of this List for as long as I have been a member and I have watched eagerly for each tidbit from your research. We owe you more than most of us realize. I hope you won't stay away too long. Good luck with the work that you have to do. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 11:54 PM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Bye for now >Hi Riddle List, > >I regret to say that for the time being I am going to have to unsubscribe >from the List. > >I have the opportunity of getting a book out on how to organize genealogy >paper files, but it has to be done in the next few weeks. You all are too >enticing. I have been spending too much time having fun, and not doing >what HAS to get done. > >So, for the time being I will unsubscribe. You are all really moving >forward, searching and sharing, and I wish you well in your Riddle family >pursuits! > >Mary Hill > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to contact the ListMom?! > E-mail Rebecca at; > rebecca@collector.org > > > >

Hello everyone! Was wondering If anyone had gone to the various resting places of Riddle family and descendants there in Texas; not just to pay respects but to documented their markers for your record book and there having taken photos of them? This being the case. Has anyone a set they will make copies of for a nominal fee? Once our ancestors are gone, except but for some memories you may have; there is little in the way of remembrances. Their markers are but another remembrance! Thanks, Russ

Found this on the Venango County List, courtesy of Penny Kulbacki DEAN SCHOOL - Clinton Township, Venango Co., PA - near Bullion 1911 - 1912 Officers John K. Riddle - President Jesse Sweetapple - Secretary U. G. Shefler - Treasurer Sylvester L. Cokain - Director Zella A. Cokain - Teacher Pupils Dewey Beringer Perry Beringer Bessie Beringer Robert Buchannon Sidney Calvert Joseph Calvert Adrien Daugherty Florence French Ronald French Esther Hoffman John Hoffman Lewis Hutchison Sara Hutchison Chester Latchaw Bessie Latchaw Leland Paden Joseph Paden Lucile Shelley Kenneth Shelley Harry Strawbridge Mary Strawbridge Ada Strawbridge Gertrude Walsh William Walsh Paul Walsh Maragret Wheildon Alphene White Paul White Verner Williams Eva Williams Leroy Williams

There was another posting that the "finding" of those records is a fraud. One had checked with the VA and there was not such finding at all.

This was in the Russell County Va page. For you information Earl The following was printed in Lucas Co., IA, July 1999 Newsletter: "Pension Files Found Over a hundred boxes of pension records that date back to the "Revolutionary War, War of 1812 and the Seminole War" were recently found at the National Archives. None of these have ever been indexed or microfilmed. They are arranged by account number and are being published in American Genealogy Magazine by Datatrace System, PO Box 1587, Stephenville, Texas." "Veterans Records Discovered Some 10 million duplicate of 20th century military records thought to have been destroyed in the 1973 fire have been found by the Veterans Administration. If you have been told the records you need were burned in that fire, you may want to write again to: National Personnel Records, GSA 9700 Page Blvd. St. Louis, MO."

Hi, Cathy Thanks for the info. I think I ordered thur there E-Mail. They will open at 10:00 AM I will call and check to make sure I get the introductory price. Thanks Diane