Hi Bob, Thanks for your concern. The power went out in the Library, ofcourse, and we had to stay in the Library for about 2 hours until they could get downed wires out of the way. I always feel sorry for patrons who came "just for today" to do research. My boss phoned this evening and said they plan to have the Library open tomorrow, so it looks like we are on the road to recovery. I am grateful no one in the Library was hurt. It was frightening and a shock to see our beautiful city with trees broken and debree everywhere. I have thought the same about the possibility of a marriage between a Rogers and Roberts, with Harriet as the child. I do hope we will find more documents that will one day clarify this family!!! Mary At 10:16 PM 8/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for spelling it all out for us again Mary. Ever since I first saw >Harriet's name written as Harriet "Happy" Rogers Roberts I've thought that >probably her mother's maiden name was Rogers. > >Hope the library didn't suffer any damage in the tornado and that you are >safe. Is everything OK there? > >Bob >-----Original Message----- >From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:19 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] William and Harriet Riddle > > >>Hi Charles, >> >>I've spent 8 years intensely researching the parentage of William Riddle >>and Happy, his wife. All evidence of logic and association would have Moses >>Ridley/Riddle the father of William Riddle because William Riddle and Moses >>Ridley are next to each other on the 1767 tax list of Pittsylvania Co., VA. >> You can't get away from that. >> >>For the next 13 years, William Riddle/Ridley is very much in Montgomery >>Co., Va records. Either there were two William Riddle's in Montgomery Co., >>VA during that time or William Riddle is William Ridley, associated with >>Micajer Bunch in a court case in 1774. Micajer Bunch came from Orange Co., >>NC and so did Moses Riddle/Ridley. >> >>Also, John Riddle/Ridley signed the Oath of Allegiance in Montgomery Co, VA >>in 1777 and the only other Riddle who signed the Oath was William Riddle. >>John Riddle/Ridley was a patriot who received a Rev. War Pension and said >>he was born on the Flatt River, Orange Co.,NC area, in 1750. The >>Ridley/Riddle who was on the Flatt River at that time was Moses Ridley. >> >>Professional researchers would tell you this is a strong case that Moses >>Ridley is the father of William Riddle/Ridley. Some of my Riddle friends, >>however, are holding out for William Riddle being related to Isaac Ruddle >>instead of Moses Ridley. They will have to establish an argument of proof. >>For now, I accept Moses Riddle as the most logical and likely candidate for >>father of William Riddle. >> >>As for Happy, we have two strong traditions. Either she was a Rogers or a >>Roberts. Many good researchers favor the Rogers connection. I can't argue >>with them with documents. I just have had a feeling that Col. James >>Roberts of Surry Co., NC was kin to William Riddle because Lyman Draper >>made a mistake in his book and said that the father of William Riddle was >>"Col. James Riddle of Surry Co.,NC." There was no such person. The Col. >>James.... from Surry Co., was Col. James Roberts. I think Draper knew >>there was a family tie there and made a mistake by calling him "father" >>instead of "father-in-law." This has been a tough one to research. I have >>Col. James Roberts loosing his land in Surry Co., NC for tory activities, >>and his estate was probated in the county in 1785-1788. He had a brother or >>father there named John Roberts, who lived next to him on the Ararrat River >>and also died in the Rev. War. I have followed Col. James Roberts' land >>acquisition into Pittsylvania Co., VA on the South Mayo River. That's about >>all I know. When he lived on the Mayo River, he lived very near Moses >>Ridley and his probable son, William Riddle, at the age when William Riddle >>would have been marrying. So, that's who I favor but I admit that is not >>enough to build a case on. >> >>Doswell Rogers was in the Grayson Co., VA area at the same time, and a >>number of people have felt he was kin to Happy. More records and more >>research needed here. >> >>Mary Hill >> >>At 06:10 PM 8/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >>>Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has anyone >>>proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet >>>(Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of >>>William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is >>>this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? >>> >>>Charles Smith >>> >>> >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >>> Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? >>> Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! >>> http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >> >> Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! >> SMILE & pass it on! >> >> >> >> > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > > > > > >

Thanks for spelling it all out for us again Mary. Ever since I first saw Harriet's name written as Harriet "Happy" Rogers Roberts I've thought that probably her mother's maiden name was Rogers. Hope the library didn't suffer any damage in the tornado and that you are safe. Is everything OK there? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] William and Harriet Riddle >Hi Charles, > >I've spent 8 years intensely researching the parentage of William Riddle >and Happy, his wife. All evidence of logic and association would have Moses >Ridley/Riddle the father of William Riddle because William Riddle and Moses >Ridley are next to each other on the 1767 tax list of Pittsylvania Co., VA. > You can't get away from that. > >For the next 13 years, William Riddle/Ridley is very much in Montgomery >Co., Va records. Either there were two William Riddle's in Montgomery Co., >VA during that time or William Riddle is William Ridley, associated with >Micajer Bunch in a court case in 1774. Micajer Bunch came from Orange Co., >NC and so did Moses Riddle/Ridley. > >Also, John Riddle/Ridley signed the Oath of Allegiance in Montgomery Co, VA >in 1777 and the only other Riddle who signed the Oath was William Riddle. >John Riddle/Ridley was a patriot who received a Rev. War Pension and said >he was born on the Flatt River, Orange Co.,NC area, in 1750. The >Ridley/Riddle who was on the Flatt River at that time was Moses Ridley. > >Professional researchers would tell you this is a strong case that Moses >Ridley is the father of William Riddle/Ridley. Some of my Riddle friends, >however, are holding out for William Riddle being related to Isaac Ruddle >instead of Moses Ridley. They will have to establish an argument of proof. >For now, I accept Moses Riddle as the most logical and likely candidate for >father of William Riddle. > >As for Happy, we have two strong traditions. Either she was a Rogers or a >Roberts. Many good researchers favor the Rogers connection. I can't argue >with them with documents. I just have had a feeling that Col. James >Roberts of Surry Co., NC was kin to William Riddle because Lyman Draper >made a mistake in his book and said that the father of William Riddle was >"Col. James Riddle of Surry Co.,NC." There was no such person. The Col. >James.... from Surry Co., was Col. James Roberts. I think Draper knew >there was a family tie there and made a mistake by calling him "father" >instead of "father-in-law." This has been a tough one to research. I have >Col. James Roberts loosing his land in Surry Co., NC for tory activities, >and his estate was probated in the county in 1785-1788. He had a brother or >father there named John Roberts, who lived next to him on the Ararrat River >and also died in the Rev. War. I have followed Col. James Roberts' land >acquisition into Pittsylvania Co., VA on the South Mayo River. That's about >all I know. When he lived on the Mayo River, he lived very near Moses >Ridley and his probable son, William Riddle, at the age when William Riddle >would have been marrying. So, that's who I favor but I admit that is not >enough to build a case on. > >Doswell Rogers was in the Grayson Co., VA area at the same time, and a >number of people have felt he was kin to Happy. More records and more >research needed here. > >Mary Hill > >At 06:10 PM 8/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >>Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has anyone >>proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet >>(Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of >>William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is >>this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? >> >>Charles Smith >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >> Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? >> Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! >> http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > > > >

Hi Cathie, That is quite a thought! I have heard it said that in-law meant different things a couple of hundred years ago. Hum. I will save that thought!!! Thanks, Mary At 12:30 AM 8/11/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Mary, > >Today I rec'd a new book, "The Early History of Upson County Georgia", >In the book there is a cemetery listing for Daniel and Lucy Parker. >Below the listing is this, "(Mother and father of Miles Meadows)". >Miles Meadows was actually their son-in-law. >This book was originally printed in 1930 so there may be something to >the thought that they called them mother and father instead of in laws >at that time. > >hmm something to think about, >Cathie >-----Original Message----- >From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:18 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] William and Harriet Riddle > > >>Hi Charles, >> >>I've spent 8 years intensely researching the parentage of William >Riddle >>and Happy, his wife. All evidence of logic and association would have >Moses >>Ridley/Riddle the father of William Riddle because William Riddle and >Moses >>Ridley are next to each other on the 1767 tax list of Pittsylvania Co., >VA. >> You can't get away from that. >> >>For the next 13 years, William Riddle/Ridley is very much in Montgomery >>Co., Va records. Either there were two William Riddle's in Montgomery >Co., >>VA during that time or William Riddle is William Ridley, associated >with >>Micajer Bunch in a court case in 1774. Micajer Bunch came from Orange >Co., >>NC and so did Moses Riddle/Ridley. >> >>Also, John Riddle/Ridley signed the Oath of Allegiance in Montgomery >Co, VA >>in 1777 and the only other Riddle who signed the Oath was William >Riddle. >>John Riddle/Ridley was a patriot who received a Rev. War Pension and >said >>he was born on the Flatt River, Orange Co.,NC area, in 1750. The >>Ridley/Riddle who was on the Flatt River at that time was Moses Ridley. >> >>Professional researchers would tell you this is a strong case that >Moses >>Ridley is the father of William Riddle/Ridley. Some of my Riddle >friends, >>however, are holding out for William Riddle being related to Isaac >Ruddle >>instead of Moses Ridley. They will have to establish an argument of >proof. >>For now, I accept Moses Riddle as the most logical and likely candidate >for >>father of William Riddle. >> >>As for Happy, we have two strong traditions. Either she was a Rogers or >a >>Roberts. Many good researchers favor the Rogers connection. I can't >argue >>with them with documents. I just have had a feeling that Col. James >>Roberts of Surry Co., NC was kin to William Riddle because Lyman Draper >>made a mistake in his book and said that the father of William Riddle >was >>"Col. James Riddle of Surry Co.,NC." There was no such person. The >Col. >>James.... from Surry Co., was Col. James Roberts. I think Draper knew >>there was a family tie there and made a mistake by calling him "father" >>instead of "father-in-law." This has been a tough one to research. I >have >>Col. James Roberts loosing his land in Surry Co., NC for tory >activities, >>and his estate was probated in the county in 1785-1788. He had a >brother or >>father there named John Roberts, who lived next to him on the Ararrat >River >>and also died in the Rev. War. I have followed Col. James Roberts' >land >>acquisition into Pittsylvania Co., VA on the South Mayo River. That's >about >>all I know. When he lived on the Mayo River, he lived very near Moses >>Ridley and his probable son, William Riddle, at the age when William >Riddle >>would have been marrying. So, that's who I favor but I admit that is >not >>enough to build a case on. >> >>Doswell Rogers was in the Grayson Co., VA area at the same time, and a >>number of people have felt he was kin to Happy. More records and more >>research needed here. >> >>Mary Hill >> >>At 06:10 PM 8/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >>>Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has >anyone >>>proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet >>>(Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of >>>William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is >>>this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? >>> >>>Charles Smith >>> >>> >>>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >>> Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? >>> Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! >>> http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >> >> Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! >> SMILE & pass it on! >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > > > > > >

Mike, This Eli's parents were Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle and Augusta Coons riddle's parents were Henry M. and Anna M. Coons. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Mike Conners <conners@jps.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >Carol: This is Mike Conners and I was wondering who Eli and Augusta's father >was. Could it have been Francis (Frank) Riddle? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> >To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:55 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > > >> Carol, >> I got ahead of myself, as usual. >> I'm most interested in the papers you found. >> Eli Riddle was my gg-grandfather, his son, George Weaver Riddle, was >> my g-grandfather. Sarah Frances, Harriet Jane and Melinda Ellen are >> also daughters of Eli and Augusta Riddle. >> Lela Nadine Riddle is my mother's older sister. >> >> I would be happy to reimburse you for the cost of copying and mailing. >> >> My address is: >> >> Thomas L. Harman >> 3300 Claremont Drive >> Midland, TX 79707 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> >> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >> >> >> >Mike, >> > >> >This might help - >> > >> >William A. Riddle, died May 22, 1912 >> >Eli Riddle, died Jan 6, 1902. >> >Augusta Riddle, died May 18, 1909 >> >Mary Annie Riddle, died May 29, 1880 >> > >> >Carol >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Mike Conners <conners@jps.net> >> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:26 PM >> >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >> > >> > >> >>Carol: >> >>I have a Henry Francis Riddle who had a son Eli and wife Mary. It >> shows him >> >>as Frank in the 1900 census of Ralls County. He may have had others >> in the >> >>family but that is unkown at this time. Henry Francis was born in >> Ralls >> >Co. >> >>Mo. and had a brother name William. I have a census that has what >> looks >> >>like Augusta but the ink is smeared and it is difficult to tell. I >> think >> >>this may be the son of my Richard F. Riddle and Martha C Easton. >> >>Mike Conners >> >>conners@jps.net. >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >> >>From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> >> >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >>Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:00 PM >> >>Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >> >> >> >> >> >>> These articles were found at an estate sale in Missouri. Will be >> glad to >> >>mail to any Riddle's that have a connection. >> >>> >> >>> Most are newspaper articles and lists family members . >> >>> >> >>> George W. Riddle, died 1935 in Mo. Born June 5, 1863, Lucas >> County, >> >Iowa. >> >>> >> >>> Francies Newell, 1924. List surviving brothers as George and >> Charles >> >>Riddle. >> >>> >> >>> Mrs. George Riddle, Jan 28, 1928. Died from injuries received in >> a >> >storm. >> >>> >> >>> Birthday Dinner for George Riddle, 1927. Lists family and friends >> that >> >>attended. >> >>> >> >>> Obit for 6 year old grand daughter of George Riddle. >> >>> >> >>> Two pictures - Lila or Lela Nadine Riddle, age 4 and one that says >> 'My >> >>Mother and Father. >> >>> >> >>> Handwritten on notebook paper that says "Death of the Riddles". >> Lists >> >>Mary Annie Riddle, William A Riddle, Eli Riddle, Augusta Riddle, S. >> Frances >> >>Newell, Melinda Ellen Battzell, George Weaver Riddle, Harriet Jane >> Bayless. >> >>> >> >>> Carol Riddle Seal >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >> >>> ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion >> List------------------ >> >>> Do you have an idea for this space? >> >>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! >> >>> rebecca@collector.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >> >>-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion >> List------------------ >> >> Have you posted your >> >> RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, >> >> RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query >> yet?! >> >> What are ya waitin' for?! It's >> time! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >> >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion >> List------------------- >> >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: >> > >> > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative >> > P. O. 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Betty Riddle Webb would you please send me your address again. I deleted by mistake. Carol

Hope this helps someone. Cathie >From "Early Records of Georgia, Wilkes County" Vol 1 will book page 107- Smith, Francis. To wife Lucy all property for life to dispose of at her death as she thinks proper. To son Ruben certain slaves extra, "he having been absent." Son-in-law Peter Early, Excr. signed Oct. 31, 1812. P.S. The tract of land in Wilkinson Co. drawn by me in 1806 already given to wife Lucy. Anderson RIDDLE Henry C. Dawson, Jane Hughes, Test. Probated July 4, 1814

Carol: This is Mike Conners and I was wondering who Eli and Augusta's father was. Could it have been Francis (Frank) Riddle? ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > Carol, > I got ahead of myself, as usual. > I'm most interested in the papers you found. > Eli Riddle was my gg-grandfather, his son, George Weaver Riddle, was > my g-grandfather. Sarah Frances, Harriet Jane and Melinda Ellen are > also daughters of Eli and Augusta Riddle. > Lela Nadine Riddle is my mother's older sister. > > I would be happy to reimburse you for the cost of copying and mailing. > > My address is: > > Thomas L. Harman > 3300 Claremont Drive > Midland, TX 79707 > -----Original Message----- > From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > > > >Mike, > > > >This might help - > > > >William A. Riddle, died May 22, 1912 > >Eli Riddle, died Jan 6, 1902. > >Augusta Riddle, died May 18, 1909 > >Mary Annie Riddle, died May 29, 1880 > > > >Carol > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Conners <conners@jps.net> > >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:26 PM > >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > > > > > >>Carol: > >>I have a Henry Francis Riddle who had a son Eli and wife Mary. It > shows him > >>as Frank in the 1900 census of Ralls County. He may have had others > in the > >>family but that is unkown at this time. Henry Francis was born in > Ralls > >Co. > >>Mo. and had a brother name William. I have a census that has what > looks > >>like Augusta but the ink is smeared and it is difficult to tell. I > think > >>this may be the son of my Richard F. Riddle and Martha C Easton. > >>Mike Conners > >>conners@jps.net. > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> > >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:00 PM > >>Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > >> > >> > >>> These articles were found at an estate sale in Missouri. Will be > glad to > >>mail to any Riddle's that have a connection. > >>> > >>> Most are newspaper articles and lists family members . > >>> > >>> George W. Riddle, died 1935 in Mo. Born June 5, 1863, Lucas > County, > >Iowa. > >>> > >>> Francies Newell, 1924. List surviving brothers as George and > Charles > >>Riddle. > >>> > >>> Mrs. George Riddle, Jan 28, 1928. Died from injuries received in > a > >storm. > >>> > >>> Birthday Dinner for George Riddle, 1927. Lists family and friends > that > >>attended. > >>> > >>> Obit for 6 year old grand daughter of George Riddle. > >>> > >>> Two pictures - Lila or Lela Nadine Riddle, age 4 and one that says > 'My > >>Mother and Father. > >>> > >>> Handwritten on notebook paper that says "Death of the Riddles". > Lists > >>Mary Annie Riddle, William A Riddle, Eli Riddle, Augusta Riddle, S. > Frances > >>Newell, Melinda Ellen Battzell, George Weaver Riddle, Harriet Jane > Bayless. > >>> > >>> Carol Riddle Seal > >>> > >>> > >>> ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>> ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion > List------------------ > >>> Do you have an idea for this space? > >>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! > >>> rebecca@collector.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion > List------------------ > >> Have you posted your > >> RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > >> RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query > yet?! > >> What are ya waitin' for?! It's > time! > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion > List------------------- > >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > > P. O. Box 6798 > > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > > > >For more information, see their Web Site at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > >

Hi Mary, Today I rec'd a new book, "The Early History of Upson County Georgia", In the book there is a cemetery listing for Daniel and Lucy Parker. Below the listing is this, "(Mother and father of Miles Meadows)". Miles Meadows was actually their son-in-law. This book was originally printed in 1930 so there may be something to the thought that they called them mother and father instead of in laws at that time. hmm something to think about, Cathie -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] William and Harriet Riddle >Hi Charles, > >I've spent 8 years intensely researching the parentage of William Riddle >and Happy, his wife. All evidence of logic and association would have Moses >Ridley/Riddle the father of William Riddle because William Riddle and Moses >Ridley are next to each other on the 1767 tax list of Pittsylvania Co., VA. > You can't get away from that. > >For the next 13 years, William Riddle/Ridley is very much in Montgomery >Co., Va records. Either there were two William Riddle's in Montgomery Co., >VA during that time or William Riddle is William Ridley, associated with >Micajer Bunch in a court case in 1774. Micajer Bunch came from Orange Co., >NC and so did Moses Riddle/Ridley. > >Also, John Riddle/Ridley signed the Oath of Allegiance in Montgomery Co, VA >in 1777 and the only other Riddle who signed the Oath was William Riddle. >John Riddle/Ridley was a patriot who received a Rev. War Pension and said >he was born on the Flatt River, Orange Co.,NC area, in 1750. The >Ridley/Riddle who was on the Flatt River at that time was Moses Ridley. > >Professional researchers would tell you this is a strong case that Moses >Ridley is the father of William Riddle/Ridley. Some of my Riddle friends, >however, are holding out for William Riddle being related to Isaac Ruddle >instead of Moses Ridley. They will have to establish an argument of proof. >For now, I accept Moses Riddle as the most logical and likely candidate for >father of William Riddle. > >As for Happy, we have two strong traditions. Either she was a Rogers or a >Roberts. Many good researchers favor the Rogers connection. I can't argue >with them with documents. I just have had a feeling that Col. James >Roberts of Surry Co., NC was kin to William Riddle because Lyman Draper >made a mistake in his book and said that the father of William Riddle was >"Col. James Riddle of Surry Co.,NC." There was no such person. The Col. >James.... from Surry Co., was Col. James Roberts. I think Draper knew >there was a family tie there and made a mistake by calling him "father" >instead of "father-in-law." This has been a tough one to research. I have >Col. James Roberts loosing his land in Surry Co., NC for tory activities, >and his estate was probated in the county in 1785-1788. He had a brother or >father there named John Roberts, who lived next to him on the Ararrat River >and also died in the Rev. War. I have followed Col. James Roberts' land >acquisition into Pittsylvania Co., VA on the South Mayo River. That's about >all I know. When he lived on the Mayo River, he lived very near Moses >Ridley and his probable son, William Riddle, at the age when William Riddle >would have been marrying. So, that's who I favor but I admit that is not >enough to build a case on. > >Doswell Rogers was in the Grayson Co., VA area at the same time, and a >number of people have felt he was kin to Happy. More records and more >research needed here. > >Mary Hill > >At 06:10 PM 8/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >>Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has anyone >>proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet >>(Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of >>William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is >>this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? >> >>Charles Smith >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >> Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? >> Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! >> http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > > > >

Found this short list of Surry Co., NC Marriages 1779-1868 Riddle, John & Mary Keen, 1 April 1789; William Douthit, bm. Riddle, Asa & Perlina Steal, 27 Dec. 1854; Daniel Haymore, bm.; m by Wm. Haymore, J.P., 28 Dec. 1854 Riddle, Franklin, son of Ayre and Betsy Riddle, & Elizabeth Armstrong, daughter of Hugh and Nancy Armstrong, m 27 Dec. 1868 by John H. Lowe Tom

Hi Charles, I've spent 8 years intensely researching the parentage of William Riddle and Happy, his wife. All evidence of logic and association would have Moses Ridley/Riddle the father of William Riddle because William Riddle and Moses Ridley are next to each other on the 1767 tax list of Pittsylvania Co., VA. You can't get away from that. For the next 13 years, William Riddle/Ridley is very much in Montgomery Co., Va records. Either there were two William Riddle's in Montgomery Co., VA during that time or William Riddle is William Ridley, associated with Micajer Bunch in a court case in 1774. Micajer Bunch came from Orange Co., NC and so did Moses Riddle/Ridley. Also, John Riddle/Ridley signed the Oath of Allegiance in Montgomery Co, VA in 1777 and the only other Riddle who signed the Oath was William Riddle. John Riddle/Ridley was a patriot who received a Rev. War Pension and said he was born on the Flatt River, Orange Co.,NC area, in 1750. The Ridley/Riddle who was on the Flatt River at that time was Moses Ridley. Professional researchers would tell you this is a strong case that Moses Ridley is the father of William Riddle/Ridley. Some of my Riddle friends, however, are holding out for William Riddle being related to Isaac Ruddle instead of Moses Ridley. They will have to establish an argument of proof. For now, I accept Moses Riddle as the most logical and likely candidate for father of William Riddle. As for Happy, we have two strong traditions. Either she was a Rogers or a Roberts. Many good researchers favor the Rogers connection. I can't argue with them with documents. I just have had a feeling that Col. James Roberts of Surry Co., NC was kin to William Riddle because Lyman Draper made a mistake in his book and said that the father of William Riddle was "Col. James Riddle of Surry Co.,NC." There was no such person. The Col. James.... from Surry Co., was Col. James Roberts. I think Draper knew there was a family tie there and made a mistake by calling him "father" instead of "father-in-law." This has been a tough one to research. I have Col. James Roberts loosing his land in Surry Co., NC for tory activities, and his estate was probated in the county in 1785-1788. He had a brother or father there named John Roberts, who lived next to him on the Ararrat River and also died in the Rev. War. I have followed Col. James Roberts' land acquisition into Pittsylvania Co., VA on the South Mayo River. That's about all I know. When he lived on the Mayo River, he lived very near Moses Ridley and his probable son, William Riddle, at the age when William Riddle would have been marrying. So, that's who I favor but I admit that is not enough to build a case on. Doswell Rogers was in the Grayson Co., VA area at the same time, and a number of people have felt he was kin to Happy. More records and more research needed here. Mary Hill At 06:10 PM 8/10/1999 +0000, you wrote: >Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has anyone >proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet >(Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of >William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is >this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? > >Charles Smith > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

Carol, I got ahead of myself, as usual. I'm most interested in the papers you found. Eli Riddle was my gg-grandfather, his son, George Weaver Riddle, was my g-grandfather. Sarah Frances, Harriet Jane and Melinda Ellen are also daughters of Eli and Augusta Riddle. Lela Nadine Riddle is my mother's older sister. I would be happy to reimburse you for the cost of copying and mailing. My address is: Thomas L. Harman 3300 Claremont Drive Midland, TX 79707 -----Original Message----- From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >Mike, > >This might help - > >William A. Riddle, died May 22, 1912 >Eli Riddle, died Jan 6, 1902. >Augusta Riddle, died May 18, 1909 >Mary Annie Riddle, died May 29, 1880 > >Carol > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Conners <conners@jps.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:26 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > > >>Carol: >>I have a Henry Francis Riddle who had a son Eli and wife Mary. It shows him >>as Frank in the 1900 census of Ralls County. He may have had others in the >>family but that is unkown at this time. Henry Francis was born in Ralls >Co. >>Mo. and had a brother name William. I have a census that has what looks >>like Augusta but the ink is smeared and it is difficult to tell. I think >>this may be the son of my Richard F. Riddle and Martha C Easton. >>Mike Conners >>conners@jps.net. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:00 PM >>Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >> >> >>> These articles were found at an estate sale in Missouri. Will be glad to >>mail to any Riddle's that have a connection. >>> >>> Most are newspaper articles and lists family members . >>> >>> George W. Riddle, died 1935 in Mo. Born June 5, 1863, Lucas County, >Iowa. >>> >>> Francies Newell, 1924. List surviving brothers as George and Charles >>Riddle. >>> >>> Mrs. George Riddle, Jan 28, 1928. Died from injuries received in a >storm. >>> >>> Birthday Dinner for George Riddle, 1927. Lists family and friends that >>attended. >>> >>> Obit for 6 year old grand daughter of George Riddle. >>> >>> Two pictures - Lila or Lela Nadine Riddle, age 4 and one that says 'My >>Mother and Father. >>> >>> Handwritten on notebook paper that says "Death of the Riddles". Lists >>Mary Annie Riddle, William A Riddle, Eli Riddle, Augusta Riddle, S. Frances >>Newell, Melinda Ellen Battzell, George Weaver Riddle, Harriet Jane Bayless. >>> >>> Carol Riddle Seal >>> >>> >>> ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>> ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >>> Do you have an idea for this space? >>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! >>> rebecca@collector.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >> Have you posted your >> RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, >> RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! >> What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------- >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > P. O. Box 6798 > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > >For more information, see their Web Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

In a message dated 8/10/99 11:46:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, maks@midwest.net writes: << The Thomas born 1755, he married Polly. Their children were Thomas, William, Henry, Roland, John, Reese, Hardy, Rebecca, >> Vic & Charlotte, Pardon the intrusion but is the William above possible William Riddle born 19 Mar 1803 KY or VA? Looking for his parents. Cathy kayomaxb@aol.com

Carol, William A. Riddle was the brother of Eli Riddle Augusta Coons was Eli's wife Mary Annie was Eli and Augusta's eldest daughter Tom -----Original Message----- From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >Mike, > >This might help - > >William A. Riddle, died May 22, 1912 >Eli Riddle, died Jan 6, 1902. >Augusta Riddle, died May 18, 1909 >Mary Annie Riddle, died May 29, 1880 > >Carol > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Conners <conners@jps.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 5:26 PM >Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's > > >>Carol: >>I have a Henry Francis Riddle who had a son Eli and wife Mary. It shows him >>as Frank in the 1900 census of Ralls County. He may have had others in the >>family but that is unkown at this time. Henry Francis was born in Ralls >Co. >>Mo. and had a brother name William. I have a census that has what looks >>like Augusta but the ink is smeared and it is difficult to tell. I think >>this may be the son of my Richard F. Riddle and Martha C Easton. >>Mike Conners >>conners@jps.net. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> >>To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:00 PM >>Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddle's >> >> >>> These articles were found at an estate sale in Missouri. Will be glad to >>mail to any Riddle's that have a connection. >>> >>> Most are newspaper articles and lists family members . >>> >>> George W. Riddle, died 1935 in Mo. Born June 5, 1863, Lucas County, >Iowa. >>> >>> Francies Newell, 1924. List surviving brothers as George and Charles >>Riddle. >>> >>> Mrs. George Riddle, Jan 28, 1928. Died from injuries received in a >storm. >>> >>> Birthday Dinner for George Riddle, 1927. Lists family and friends that >>attended. >>> >>> Obit for 6 year old grand daughter of George Riddle. >>> >>> Two pictures - Lila or Lela Nadine Riddle, age 4 and one that says 'My >>Mother and Father. >>> >>> Handwritten on notebook paper that says "Death of the Riddles". Lists >>Mary Annie Riddle, William A Riddle, Eli Riddle, Augusta Riddle, S. Frances >>Newell, Melinda Ellen Battzell, George Weaver Riddle, Harriet Jane Bayless. >>> >>> Carol Riddle Seal >>> >>> >>> ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>> ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >>> Do you have an idea for this space? >>> E-mail the ListMom for more information! >>> rebecca@collector.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ >> Have you posted your >> RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, >> RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! >> What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------- >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > P. O. Box 6798 > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > >For more information, see their Web Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Vic, Do you have the children of Elisha, Reece and Hardy, who are the brothers to your Thomas? Would appreciate knowing. Thanks. Wanda Thomas Flesher _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

I'm searching for information on my ggrandfather Thomas William Riddle b: 1861 I believe in either Jackson Co. or Marshall Co., AL. His death certificate states father: Thomas mother: unknown. Another researcher says her Thomas Riddle had been married to a Lemons but was married to Minerva Bowers by 1870 and they had two children. She had reason to believe this Thomas was the son of Roland Riddle. Any clues here? Linda From: maks <maks@midwest.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddles of VA Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:41 AM Hi Charlotte, The tip of Sussex County borders on Brunswick County Va. My relatives were in Brunswick Co. It's possible. The ones I have info on were born in the 1700's. Thomas Riddle who married Polly Dean. Their children Thomas Riddle b. about 1755 in Brunswick Co. Elisha, Reece & Hardy. My line goes down from Thomas. The Thomas born 1755, he married Polly. Their children were Thomas, William, Henry, Roland, John, Reese, Hardy, Rebecca, Peggy and Polly. Your line could very well be descendants of this line. If any of this connects let me know. Vic -----Original Message----- From: CEEARM@aol.com <CEEARM@aol.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 06, 1999 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddles of VA >Hi Vic, I am searching for my Riddle family in Virginia also. I have a James >Thomas Riddle b.late 1860's in Sussex Co.,VA. Parents were James Robert and >Jeannett Riddle.Then there was John Thomas, b.1880-90, his parents were >Peyton and Lena Riddle. Peyton worked in sawmills in different counties, so >unsure where John Thomas was born. Do you have any of this info in your >files? Charlotte A. > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! SMILE & pass it on!

Carol....I would really be interested in seeing the information you have on William A Riddle. My gg grandfather was William Alexander Riddle but we have almost no other information on him. Maybe you are my answer! Carlene Chebuhar

Sorry to sound as ignorant as Bob but here goes my question. Has anyone proved the parents of either William Riddle (tory) or his wife Harriet (Happy)? The last I heard, Moses Ridley was the probable father of William and Col. James Roberts was probably the father of Harriet. Is this still the current opinion? Has anyone closed in on their mothers? Charles Smith

I was sent the following email but nothing else. When I responded to the email pmorressy@multipro.com I was given a user unknown error message. I have copied both messages here. Could the person that sent it please contact me with an email address that I can send to. Thanks, Charles Smith charles@pandr.demon.co.uk ------------------ Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] The Isaac & Joseph Contact List v10 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:33:36 -0500 From: "pmorressy" <pmorressy@multipro.com> To: <charles@pandr.demon.co.uk> Charles, I'm new at this don't have a lot of information but would like to be added to you list. looking for information on Joseph Riddle ----------- A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. The following address(es) failed: pmorressy@multipro.com: SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO: <pmorressy@multipro.com>: host mail.multipro.com [12.13.128.9]: 550 <pmorressy@multipro.com>... User unknown

Hi Vic, thanks for the note. The only name that might help would be William. I think my gg-grandfather's name was William Riddle. He would have had at least two sons, John F. Riddle and my ggrandfather, James Robert Riddle.John,1835 and James 1840 unknown countiy.Does that give you a clue? Charlotte A.

Hello, I'm not sure if this Thomas Riddle of Brunswick Co. is the one or not. The time frame seems right. I have a Thomas born in 1780. Vic -----Original Message----- From: Nbrplez@aol.com <Nbrplez@aol.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Riddles of VA >Hi Vic, I too am researching Riddle's of VA, a Lewis Riddle b 1778 in Va. >There are several of us researching this line, but can't find anything on him >in VA. other than his marriage. >Caroline Co., VA, marriage records 1795-1853 records on page 2, a marriage >bond issued 24 Feb 1803 , husband Lewis Riddle, wife Elizabeth Barbee, >security and witnesses Thomas Riddle, Elijah Barbee and Bereman King. From >1807 through 1816 Lewis Riddle was in Bourbon Co., Ky. then to Bath Co., by >1817. This information from Terri Pettitt who has done extensive work on this >line. >Could this be your Thomas Riddle? >I think we have corresponded before, email me direct if you wish. >nbrplez@aol.com > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------- >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > P. O. Box 6798 > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > >For more information, see their Web Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >