Loretta, You never did say where you ran across a record for a first marriage of Nathan A. R. RIDDLE to Lucy Rhoda __________. To you remember you source? Robin L. Poindexter

Hello List (Riddle Researchers)! I received a list numbering 76 Individuals who went to Fort. Smith ARK for protection during the Civil War. It is of American Indian (Choctaws and those married to them, or who were mixed blood, also white). Thought somebody might be interested! A professional genealogist gave this, to a relative of mine at one time. Some of the names I thought might be of some INTEREST to someone perhaps (?), they are: #26. F. M. Monks Became Capt. in Union Army in Missouri, Daughter owned at least one slave. People in family - Men (1), Women (1), Children (2), = Total (4). #37. Jessie Riddle People in family - Men (1), = Total (1). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Of the others listed a few appear to have made it to Fort Smith, there D.O.A. (or) died there. This is all the information for the two individuals that the list provided for these above. (Hope this may have helped someone)! The location ARK., came from "surmised" for the most part Okla. The Era: the Civil War (time frame). Subject: Northern Sympathizers/ 5 Civilized Tribes. If anyone knows/could tell me the Source of this LIST of Northern Sympathizers?? It would be greatly appreciated too, as well! (A descendant of Isaac & Anna Riddle, one of the twin boys of William Riddle), Always Best Regards, Russ Merryman

Abner, Robert and Richard Riddle were in Pulaski County on the 1840 Census. How do these men connect to Emanuel, Isaac and Jesse Riddle? Carol

The second listed Wm Riddle who married Anne Griffin is definitely my ancestor so if you find a connection between the two, please post it. Nancy Abraham KAYOMAXB@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Riddle listers, > > Was gone on vacation - so the couple of you who have sent me email direct > recently - I'll get an answer to you a.s.a.p. : ) > > Does anyone have subscription to KindredKonnections? > I found my William RIDDLE 1803-1840 listed in their index and wondered if > anyone on the Riddle list had a subscription and would be willing to download > 2 files and send to me? > > If download is a big project, the name and address of the persons who > submitted the files would be very much appreciated. I can contact them > directly. > > If you can help, please download file: > (**This definitely is my ancestor**) > Riddle, William (be000238) born/chris 1830 KY or VA > Riddle, William (be000238) married 1830 IN Polly Parks > Riddle, William (be000238) died/burial 1840 IN > > (This could be my ancestor too - but not sure) > Riddle, William (mi000016) born/chris 1807 > Riddle, William (mi000016) married 1826 KY Anne Griffin > Riddle, William (mi000016) death/burial 1840 > > There is one other person on this list descended from the William Riddle > 1803-1840 line and I will forward the file to him too. > > Any help very greatly appreciated. > > Cathy Riddle O'Connor > kayomaxb@aol.com > (if files can't be emailed - please let me know and I will email you my snail > mail address) > > Thanks! > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html

In a message dated 8/24/99 12:49:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, anabr@swcp.com writes: << Wm Riddle who married Anne Griffin is definitely my ancestor so if you find a connection between the two, please post it. >> Hi Nancy, Someone on the list was nice enough to send a response and do a look up on the submitter of the files to my Kindred Konnections request. She was unable to download the actual file however. The following info is regarding your William Riddle & Anne Griffin. File #mi000016 1807-1840 Donald Allen Miles 5225 Coronado Circle Abilene, TX 79605 915-695-2951 fax - 915-695-0949 email - amiles@worldnet.att.net Can you email me more information about your William Riddle? I am wondering if he is the same person as my William Riddle - born 1803 KY or VA (per tombstone & children's census); married 1830 to Polly Parks in Monroe Co, IN; died and is buried 1840 in Monroe Co, IN. Their children - William T; Priscilla C; George M, and Harrison H Riddle. My line is from son, George M Riddle. Might your Anne Griffin be the 1st wife of my William Riddle? Any more information about your William Riddle family greatly appreciated. Happy to share what I have about mine. Hope the above helps too : ) Cathy Riddle O'Connor kayomaxb@aol.com

This is Mike Conners and with all the Joseph news on the hotline I was wondering if maybe Joseph could be the father of Samuel Riddle born 1790? in Maryland or Riddell as I find his grandchildren listed as. My Richard L Riddle or Riddell as he was listed on the census reports was born June 1835 in either Scotts Co. or Florida Mo. Richard was married twice first to Martha C Easton and second to Sophie Bloodgood. Richard by his first marriage had 5 children my Martha C Easton and 3 by Sophie Bloodgood. Here is my point. He names his boys by Sophie: Samuel Joseph Edward James Could that be that Samuel be after his father and Joseph after the Samuels father or his grandfather???? He also names the only girl from that marriage Minnie L. Richard by his first marriage to Martha C Easton names his children: Mary (can't find anything on her) Victoria Louise (my gggrandmother) died in 1947 in Unionville Mo. buried in Unionville Mo. Henry Francis (Frank) found him in Hannibal and died in 1918 and is buried in Macomb. IL William John (was in Hannibal in 1918 because he was with the body of his brother when it was sent to Macomb.) Martha Virginia (no nothing about) Richard C (also no nothing about) All of these children except Edward James(Jimmy) used the last name spelling of Riddell. Can anyone make a connection. Thanks Much, Mike Conners conners@jps.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdvsr@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 6:48 AM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Josephus RIDDLE > This is file on family of James RIDDLE, son Davis, son Josephus: > Davis lived in Clinton Co KY. There is another Josephus from Joseph RIDDLE > line which I'll send next. > Rodney D. Veitschegger, 2072 Quail Run Drive, Bowling Green, KY 42104 > 270 842-4039; e'mail RDVSR@aol.com > > > James RIDDLE of Cumberland Co. KY > son of William Thomas RIDDLE & Happy ROGERS/?ROBERTS > Corre Mevhill@burgoyne.com (Mary Hill) > RPoind4199 (Robin L. Poindexter) > I was told the wife of James RIDDLE was Sarah DAVIS > > 1850 Clinton Co Ky Census p. 190 1 Aug 1850, 2nd Distr > #89 Davis RIDDLE 48 VA > Martha 47 VA > William 20 VA (Wm. RIDDLE 23 to Mariah CANNON Petty 21 7 Sep 1855) > d/o Wm.) > Isaac 18 VA b 1832 (?md Francis Ann GILMORE 1855) > (CCK 4 Oct 1855 Isaac RIDDLE age 23 m Frances Ann ??Gilmore?19 b CCK) > #90 Isaac GRIDER 27 KY > Jane 25 (I think she is a RIDDLE) > Francis 5 > George W. 3 > Martha 1 >   > Clinton Co birth: > 29 Nov 1857 Wm. Davis RIDDLE f/Wm.RIDDLE, m/Maria CANNON; > May 1856 J. W. GRIDER (m) f/Israel GRIDER m/Jane RIDDLE > 18 Jul 1856 N. J. RIDDLE (f) f/W. D. RIDDLE, m/Maria CANNON > 27 Jun 1854 Martha T. RIDDLE f/Wm. D. m/Maria CONNER/CANNON > 18 Jun 1854 Cyrus GRIDER, f/Israel m/Jane RIDDLE > (Wm. Riddle md Maria Petty, but here her name is Cannon/Conner, which > indicates that she was md to a PETTY before RIDDLE) > > Cumb. Co Deeds: > James RIDDLE & wf Ginny to Robert MURRY & Wm. ROBERTSON, Illwill Cr. > C-419, (no date) (llwill Cr. in Clinton Co, flows into Dale Hollow Lake > other of my ROBERTS family had land on Fanny's branch of Illwill Cr. > James RIDDLE & wf Polly to Esau WRIGHT land on Willis Cr 1 Mar 1827 F > 215 (Willis is NW corner of Cumb. Co.) Some people referred to James RIDDLE > family as Kettle Cr. or Willis Cr. Riddles. > > Ky Land warrants: > Riddle, Joseph 10 Bk N p 440 9 Aug 1323 Cumb. Co Rayfield Br. Sulphur Cr > Riddle, Isaac 50A P 118 13 Jan 1824 Cumb. Co Sulphur Cr > RIDDLE, JAMES 50 A 1 275 20 Feb 1824 Cumb. Co Willis Cr > Riddle, Joseph 50A C-2 p 89 29 Oct 1832 Cumb. Co Sulphur Cr > Riddle, Joseph 50 A Q-2 p 376 23 Jul 1847 Cumb Co Sulphur Cr > (Note: I was told that Isaac the brother of Joseph & James lived in > Cumb. Co before going to Boone Co, but don't know this true, the Isaac > above could be son of Joseph) > > > 1810 census of Cumberland Co, KY > James RIDDLE males: 5 under 10, 1 26-45 (b 1784-1765) > females: 1 under 5, 1 10-16, 1 26-45 > > 1820 males: 2 -16; 1 -18, 2 -26, 1 -45+ > females: 4 -10, 1 -45 > > I think the older 2 daughters may have md before 1820 > 1827 James RIDDLE & wf Polly to Esau WRIGHT, land on Willis Cr > On 1820 Census Esau WRIGHT is 3 h/h from James RIDDLE, & Daniel BINNS is > next to Esau WRIGHT. > > 1830 Census of Cumberland Co, KY > James RIDDLE males: 1 20/30, > females: 1 -5; 1 20/30 > Davice RIDDLE males 2 -5, 1 -30 > females: 1 -5, 1 -20, 1 -40 > David SHELLY > Esau WRIGHT > (This is Willis Cr area, and I believe James & Davis are sons of James > RIDDLE) I don't seem to have James RIDDLE on 1830, but should look again. > Isaac GRIDER is about 5 h/h from James RIDDLE and I THINK he is one > later in Clinton Co. with wf Jane RIDDLE. I therefore think Jane was > daughter of old James RIDDLE. > Isaac GRIDER male 1 -30 > female 1 -20 > > 1840 Cumberland Co census > James RIDDLE males: 1 -10, 1 -40, 1 -50 > females: 2 10-15, 1 30/40 > > 1850 Cumberland Co Ky census > #243 James RIDDLE 70 (b ca 1780) VA > E. 66 NC > Nancy 27 b NC > (If this is correct James RIDDLE he must have a different wife now than > Sarah DAVIS. This child b in 1823 NC is probably not his OR he moved back > to NC then returned to KY...he doesn't appear in 1830, Cumb. Co census) > > p 336 James RIDDLE 44 prob. s/o James > S. 43 > W.A. 19 (1831) ?Washington A. RIDDLE m Sarah GRIDER > > p 288 Nathan RIDDLE 38 (b ca1812) > Lucy 36 > F. A. (m) 14 > P. A. 12 (f) > J.J. 10 (f) > J.H. 7 (m) > R. C. 5 (f) > S. E. 3 (f) > R.E. 1 (f) > > > > > > Marriages: Cumberland Co. KY > 17 Oct 1855 ??James RIDDLE 29 b Clinton Co, KY to Polly ??Lotty 18 > Clinton Co > 1894 Pleasant MARTIN Cumb. Co to Nancy RIDDLE of CLINTON Co (d/o Davis) > > Death Cumb. Co, KY > Parthena A. RIDDLE age 32 (b ca 1825) d 6 Jun 1857 brain fever, b. Cumb. > Co, Parents Wm. & Miranda CLAYPOOL. > (This Parthena must have been md to a RIDDLE, and I think in the family > of James RIDDLE, because she is not identified in family of Joseph) > > Births Cumb. Co KY (This film very hard to read, didn't complete) > 18 Jun 1853 Richard BINNS f/ James V. m/Parthena RIDDLE > 30 Apr 1852 James T.A. f/James V. BINNS, m/Parthena Ann RIDDLE > 22 Jan 1854 Drucinday/Dorinda RIDDLE f/Wash. A. m/Sarah GRIDER > 23 Jan 1855 John Franklin BINNS f/Jas. V., m/Parthena RIDDLE > 15 Aug 1856 James R. RIDDLE f/Isaac A. RIDDLE, m/Fannie Ann GLIDEWELL > (Isaac son of Davis RIDDLE) > 2 Aug 1857 Wm. J. RIDDLE f/Isaac RIDDLE m/Frances GLIDEWELL (Isaac s/o > Davis) > 1 Dec 1858 John RIDDLE f/Isaac F. m/Frances W. GLIDEWELL > > > Cumb. Co Survey Records by Butler & Smith > p. 101 Samuel YOUNG as of Wm. CARTER 50A, 29 Jan 1818 A-471, joins John > YOUNG on Willis Creek, Johnston's 1000A survey; JF, Ds; chain carrier James > RIDDLE & Geo. GREEN, Zadock WRIGHT > p. 144 James RIDDLE of S. John STUART 50A Willis Cr; B-18, 20 Feb 1824, > joins Reid, More, & Stephenson, chain carrier David RIDDLE, & Edward & Esau > WRIGHT (I think David is error, s/b Davis RIDDLE) > > 1850 Clinton Co KY > Davis RIDDLE 49 > Martha 47 > William 21 md Mariah ?? > Isaac 19 > Lucy 16 > Nancy 14 > James 12 > Martha 11 > Josephus (B) 9 md C. Elizabeth ? Dec 1859 Cumb Co > Lucy 7 > George RIDDLE 4 1846 > > 1860 Clinton Co KY > #398 Josephus RIDDLE 19 KY s/o Davis > Elizabeth ?? 20 KY > #522 William RIDDLE 30 KY s/o Davis > Mariah 30 KY > Martha S. 6 > Nancy 4 > William D. 3 > John W. 1/12 > Josephus B. RIDDLE 19 repeat of #398, > Elizabeth ? 20 > > 1860 Cumberland Co, KY > #217 James Wm. RIDDLE 22 KY prob. son of Davis RIDDLE > Mary (Petty) RIDDLE 22 KY md 17 Oct 55 CCK d/o Wm. > Martha E. RIDDLE 3 Ky > Lucy Jane RIDDLE 2 KY > John W. RIDDLE 1 KY > (CCK 7 Sep 1855 Wm. RIDDLE of Clinton Co 23 b CCK to Mariah PETTY 21 b > Jackson, TN) > #226 James V. BINNS 41 KY > Parthia (Riddle) 32 KY > Mary T. F. 10 KY > James T. A. 8 KY > Richardson G . 7 KY > Frank John 5 KY > McHubbard 3 KY > George W. BINNS 3/12 KY > > #295 James RIDDLE 53 KY 1807 > Susan RIDDLE 51 > Gabriel BOOHER 33 TN > Nancy BOOHER 26 KY > Mary E. BOOHER 2 KY > 306 Isaac (A.) RIDDLE 28 KY 1832 son of Davis RIDDLE > Frances A. (Glidewell) 24 KY > James R. RIDDLE 3 (b 15 Aug 56)KY > William J. RIDDLE 2 Ky b 2 Aug 1857 > (John b 1 Dec 58, d Feb 1859 age 2 months. > #302 is Maston GLIDEWELL 51 VA (prob. parents of Frances A.) > #305 has BOOHER in h/h > 386 Isreal GRIDER 38 KY > Jane (Riddle) 35 Ky > Frances 15 KY > George W. 13 KY > Martha 11 KY > Wm. 10 KY > F. 8 KY > Cyrus 6 KY > John W. 4 KY > Isreal M. 2 KY > > > 397 W. A. RIDDLE 29 KY (1831) Wash. A. md Sarah GRIDER, s/oJames,s/oJames > Sally RIDDLE 29 KY > Sarilda 6 KY > Maranda 4 KY > Dora 2 KY (Dorinda? b 22 Jan 1854?) > > 399 Josephus RIDDLE 19 (1841 KY This is diff. than the Joseph C. > "Josephus" > Elizbeth 20 Ky md w/in the yr > 400 Wm. PETTY 38 TN 1822 > Susanna 35 TN > Elivia PETTY 17 KY > Bathenia 14 KY > Pamasetta RIDDLE 12 KY 1848 > Lewis RIDDLE 11 KY 1849 (see Lucien) > (Apparently Susanna had been previously md to a RIDDLE??) > 401 James S. ANDERSON 32 KY > Martha A. 32 Ky > Almarine A. RIDDLE 10 KY > Martin P. RIDDLE 7 KY > James M. RIDDLE 5 KY > John T. RIDDLE 2 KY > > 1870 Cumberland Co, KY Whetstone Prec, (N.E. of Burkesville) > 53 James RIDDLE 38 KY > Francis (Frances) 35 > James 14 > Wm. 12 > 60 James RIDDLE 65 son of James > Susanna 63 > 71 Sally RIDDLE 39 KY (GRIDER) poss. wid. of Wash. A. > Susan 16 > Julia 12 > John 9 > Sarah 7 > 72 Elizabeth STATON 43 > > > 1880 Cumberland Co KY > 221 Sarah RIDDLE 48 w/o Wash. A. s/o James, s/o James > Docia 22 > James 19 > Sarah 17  > > 263 Wm. B. Mays 48 > Sallie 46 > Lucius 21 Nephew (could this be Lewis?) > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > >

Robin, Unfortunately, I don't get that many responses to my Isaac & Joseph Contact List. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was reading it. I have noted your comments and the changes have been made. I would love to stir some debate (the whole reason for the list in the first place) and solve some of the question marks on the list. I did notice with a bit of glee that I was prominently mentioned in the Speer's deed. Can I still claim the land? Charles Smith PS. Not quite sure where John S. Riddle came from. I will delete him unless anyone has any objections.

This is the other "Josephus" who is from the Joseph RIDDLE line, as opposed to the Josephus son of David RIDDLE of James RIDDLE line. I-2-1-2-4 Joseph Cephus "Josephus" RIDDLE b 24 Dec 1840, Cumb.Co, d aft. 1910 CCK s/o Nathan & Mary. Union army discharge says 5`9", fair complexion, blue eyes, light hair" md in 1863 CCK to Tinecy (Tyresa) J. ASHLOCK b 1840, TN. had a sis. Didey "Deen" ASHLOCK b 1815, KY living in household Children: 1. Silas A. RIDDLE b Mar 1864 CCK md 16 Dec 1883 Cumb. to Mary Ann FERGUSON b c1867 ClintonCK d/o Joseph. Mrg consent has mother: Mary J.S.RIDDLE 2. Nathan Tom RIDDLE b Dec 1866 CCK md c1889 Virginia Arlee GARDNER, lived on Cummins place 3. James M. RIDDLE b 1868, Cumb.KY (mrg says "mother b RussCoVa" md 5 Nov 1885 Cumb to Ortilla V. FERGUSON d/o Victoria M. FERGUSON 4. John A./B. RIDDLE b Apr 1870, Cumb. KY md Louisa/Elisa J.---b 1891 5. Mary L. RIDDLE b 1873 CCK d bef. 1900 6. Silvesta E. RIDDLE b 17 Aug 1873 CCK md John W. GROCE, b 23 Mar 1874 d 2 May 1956 s/o Henry

This is file on family of James RIDDLE, son Davis, son Josephus: Davis lived in Clinton Co KY. There is another Josephus from Joseph RIDDLE line which I'll send next. Rodney D. Veitschegger, 2072 Quail Run Drive, Bowling Green, KY 42104 270 842-4039; e'mail RDVSR@aol.com James RIDDLE of Cumberland Co. KY son of William Thomas RIDDLE & Happy ROGERS/?ROBERTS Corre Mevhill@burgoyne.com (Mary Hill) RPoind4199 (Robin L. Poindexter) I was told the wife of James RIDDLE was Sarah DAVIS 1850 Clinton Co Ky Census p. 190 1 Aug 1850, 2nd Distr #89 Davis RIDDLE 48 VA Martha 47 VA William 20 VA (Wm. RIDDLE 23 to Mariah CANNON Petty 21 7 Sep 1855) d/o Wm.) Isaac 18 VA b 1832 (?md Francis Ann GILMORE 1855) (CCK 4 Oct 1855 Isaac RIDDLE age 23 m Frances Ann ??Gilmore?19 b CCK) #90 Isaac GRIDER 27 KY Jane 25 (I think she is a RIDDLE) Francis 5 George W. 3 Martha 1   Clinton Co birth: 29 Nov 1857 Wm. Davis RIDDLE f/Wm.RIDDLE, m/Maria CANNON; May 1856 J. W. GRIDER (m) f/Israel GRIDER m/Jane RIDDLE 18 Jul 1856 N. J. RIDDLE (f) f/W. D. RIDDLE, m/Maria CANNON 27 Jun 1854 Martha T. RIDDLE f/Wm. D. m/Maria CONNER/CANNON 18 Jun 1854 Cyrus GRIDER, f/Israel m/Jane RIDDLE (Wm. Riddle md Maria Petty, but here her name is Cannon/Conner, which indicates that she was md to a PETTY before RIDDLE) Cumb. Co Deeds: James RIDDLE & wf Ginny to Robert MURRY & Wm. ROBERTSON, Illwill Cr. C-419, (no date) (llwill Cr. in Clinton Co, flows into Dale Hollow Lake other of my ROBERTS family had land on Fanny's branch of Illwill Cr. James RIDDLE & wf Polly to Esau WRIGHT land on Willis Cr 1 Mar 1827 F 215 (Willis is NW corner of Cumb. Co.) Some people referred to James RIDDLE family as Kettle Cr. or Willis Cr. Riddles. Ky Land warrants: Riddle, Joseph 10 Bk N p 440 9 Aug 1323 Cumb. Co Rayfield Br. Sulphur Cr Riddle, Isaac 50A P 118 13 Jan 1824 Cumb. Co Sulphur Cr RIDDLE, JAMES 50 A 1 275 20 Feb 1824 Cumb. Co Willis Cr Riddle, Joseph 50A C-2 p 89 29 Oct 1832 Cumb. Co Sulphur Cr Riddle, Joseph 50 A Q-2 p 376 23 Jul 1847 Cumb Co Sulphur Cr (Note: I was told that Isaac the brother of Joseph & James lived in Cumb. Co before going to Boone Co, but don't know this true, the Isaac above could be son of Joseph) 1810 census of Cumberland Co, KY James RIDDLE males: 5 under 10, 1 26-45 (b 1784-1765) females: 1 under 5, 1 10-16, 1 26-45 1820 males: 2 -16; 1 -18, 2 -26, 1 -45+ females: 4 -10, 1 -45 I think the older 2 daughters may have md before 1820 1827 James RIDDLE & wf Polly to Esau WRIGHT, land on Willis Cr On 1820 Census Esau WRIGHT is 3 h/h from James RIDDLE, & Daniel BINNS is next to Esau WRIGHT. 1830 Census of Cumberland Co, KY James RIDDLE males: 1 20/30, females: 1 -5; 1 20/30 Davice RIDDLE males 2 -5, 1 -30 females: 1 -5, 1 -20, 1 -40 David SHELLY Esau WRIGHT (This is Willis Cr area, and I believe James & Davis are sons of James RIDDLE) I don't seem to have James RIDDLE on 1830, but should look again. Isaac GRIDER is about 5 h/h from James RIDDLE and I THINK he is one later in Clinton Co. with wf Jane RIDDLE. I therefore think Jane was daughter of old James RIDDLE. Isaac GRIDER male 1 -30 female 1 -20 1840 Cumberland Co census James RIDDLE males: 1 -10, 1 -40, 1 -50 females: 2 10-15, 1 30/40 1850 Cumberland Co Ky census #243 James RIDDLE 70 (b ca 1780) VA E. 66 NC Nancy 27 b NC (If this is correct James RIDDLE he must have a different wife now than Sarah DAVIS. This child b in 1823 NC is probably not his OR he moved back to NC then returned to KY...he doesn't appear in 1830, Cumb. Co census) p 336 James RIDDLE 44 prob. s/o James S. 43 W.A. 19 (1831) ?Washington A. RIDDLE m Sarah GRIDER p 288 Nathan RIDDLE 38 (b ca1812) Lucy 36 F. A. (m) 14 P. A. 12 (f) J.J. 10 (f) J.H. 7 (m) R. C. 5 (f) S. E. 3 (f) R.E. 1 (f) Marriages: Cumberland Co. KY 17 Oct 1855 ??James RIDDLE 29 b Clinton Co, KY to Polly ??Lotty 18 Clinton Co 1894 Pleasant MARTIN Cumb. Co to Nancy RIDDLE of CLINTON Co (d/o Davis) Death Cumb. Co, KY Parthena A. RIDDLE age 32 (b ca 1825) d 6 Jun 1857 brain fever, b. Cumb. Co, Parents Wm. & Miranda CLAYPOOL. (This Parthena must have been md to a RIDDLE, and I think in the family of James RIDDLE, because she is not identified in family of Joseph) Births Cumb. Co KY (This film very hard to read, didn't complete) 18 Jun 1853 Richard BINNS f/ James V. m/Parthena RIDDLE 30 Apr 1852 James T.A. f/James V. BINNS, m/Parthena Ann RIDDLE 22 Jan 1854 Drucinday/Dorinda RIDDLE f/Wash. A. m/Sarah GRIDER 23 Jan 1855 John Franklin BINNS f/Jas. V., m/Parthena RIDDLE 15 Aug 1856 James R. RIDDLE f/Isaac A. RIDDLE, m/Fannie Ann GLIDEWELL (Isaac son of Davis RIDDLE) 2 Aug 1857 Wm. J. RIDDLE f/Isaac RIDDLE m/Frances GLIDEWELL (Isaac s/o Davis) 1 Dec 1858 John RIDDLE f/Isaac F. m/Frances W. GLIDEWELL Cumb. Co Survey Records by Butler & Smith p. 101 Samuel YOUNG as of Wm. CARTER 50A, 29 Jan 1818 A-471, joins John YOUNG on Willis Creek, Johnston's 1000A survey; JF, Ds; chain carrier James RIDDLE & Geo. GREEN, Zadock WRIGHT p. 144 James RIDDLE of S. John STUART 50A Willis Cr; B-18, 20 Feb 1824, joins Reid, More, & Stephenson, chain carrier David RIDDLE, & Edward & Esau WRIGHT (I think David is error, s/b Davis RIDDLE) 1850 Clinton Co KY Davis RIDDLE 49 Martha 47 William 21 md Mariah ?? Isaac 19 Lucy 16 Nancy 14 James 12 Martha 11 Josephus (B) 9 md C. Elizabeth ? Dec 1859 Cumb Co Lucy 7 George RIDDLE 4 1846 1860 Clinton Co KY #398 Josephus RIDDLE 19 KY s/o Davis Elizabeth ?? 20 KY #522 William RIDDLE 30 KY s/o Davis Mariah 30 KY Martha S. 6 Nancy 4 William D. 3 John W. 1/12 Josephus B. RIDDLE 19 repeat of #398, Elizabeth ? 20 1860 Cumberland Co, KY #217 James Wm. RIDDLE 22 KY prob. son of Davis RIDDLE Mary (Petty) RIDDLE 22 KY md 17 Oct 55 CCK d/o Wm. Martha E. RIDDLE 3 Ky Lucy Jane RIDDLE 2 KY John W. RIDDLE 1 KY (CCK 7 Sep 1855 Wm. RIDDLE of Clinton Co 23 b CCK to Mariah PETTY 21 b Jackson, TN) #226 James V. BINNS 41 KY Parthia (Riddle) 32 KY Mary T. F. 10 KY James T. A. 8 KY Richardson G . 7 KY Frank John 5 KY McHubbard 3 KY George W. BINNS 3/12 KY #295 James RIDDLE 53 KY 1807 Susan RIDDLE 51 Gabriel BOOHER 33 TN Nancy BOOHER 26 KY Mary E. BOOHER 2 KY 306 Isaac (A.) RIDDLE 28 KY 1832 son of Davis RIDDLE Frances A. (Glidewell) 24 KY James R. RIDDLE 3 (b 15 Aug 56)KY William J. RIDDLE 2 Ky b 2 Aug 1857 (John b 1 Dec 58, d Feb 1859 age 2 months. #302 is Maston GLIDEWELL 51 VA (prob. parents of Frances A.) #305 has BOOHER in h/h 386 Isreal GRIDER 38 KY Jane (Riddle) 35 Ky Frances 15 KY George W. 13 KY Martha 11 KY Wm. 10 KY F. 8 KY Cyrus 6 KY John W. 4 KY Isreal M. 2 KY 397 W. A. RIDDLE 29 KY (1831) Wash. A. md Sarah GRIDER, s/oJames,s/oJames Sally RIDDLE 29 KY Sarilda 6 KY Maranda 4 KY Dora 2 KY (Dorinda? b 22 Jan 1854?) 399 Josephus RIDDLE 19 (1841 KY This is diff. than the Joseph C. “Josephus” Elizbeth 20 Ky md w/in the yr 400 Wm. PETTY 38 TN 1822 Susanna 35 TN Elivia PETTY 17 KY Bathenia 14 KY Pamasetta RIDDLE 12 KY 1848 Lewis RIDDLE 11 KY 1849 (see Lucien) (Apparently Susanna had been previously md to a RIDDLE??) 401 James S. ANDERSON 32 KY Martha A. 32 Ky Almarine A. RIDDLE 10 KY Martin P. RIDDLE 7 KY James M. RIDDLE 5 KY John T. RIDDLE 2 KY 1870 Cumberland Co, KY Whetstone Prec, (N.E. of Burkesville) 53 James RIDDLE 38 KY Francis (Frances) 35 James 14 Wm. 12 60 James RIDDLE 65 son of James Susanna 63 71 Sally RIDDLE 39 KY (GRIDER) poss. wid. of Wash. A. Susan 16 Julia 12 John 9 Sarah 7 72 Elizabeth STATON 43 1880 Cumberland Co KY 221 Sarah RIDDLE 48 w/o Wash. A. s/o James, s/o James Docia 22 James 19 Sarah 17  263 Wm. B. Mays 48 Sallie 46 Lucius 21 Nephew (could this be Lewis?)

Hi Riddle listers, Was gone on vacation - so the couple of you who have sent me email direct recently - I'll get an answer to you a.s.a.p. : ) Does anyone have subscription to KindredKonnections? I found my William RIDDLE 1803-1840 listed in their index and wondered if anyone on the Riddle list had a subscription and would be willing to download 2 files and send to me? If download is a big project, the name and address of the persons who submitted the files would be very much appreciated. I can contact them directly. If you can help, please download file: (**This definitely is my ancestor**) Riddle, William (be000238) born/chris 1830 KY or VA Riddle, William (be000238) married 1830 IN Polly Parks Riddle, William (be000238) died/burial 1840 IN (This could be my ancestor too - but not sure) Riddle, William (mi000016) born/chris 1807 Riddle, William (mi000016) married 1826 KY Anne Griffin Riddle, William (mi000016) death/burial 1840 There is one other person on this list descended from the William Riddle 1803-1840 line and I will forward the file to him too. Any help very greatly appreciated. Cathy Riddle O'Connor kayomaxb@aol.com (if files can't be emailed - please let me know and I will email you my snail mail address) Thanks!

Yes it was Vestal CROSS and she died a couple years back. Don't recall just when. RDV

Hi - just read this message and thought I would ask a question, even tho it sounds like you may have it figured out...but just for my records and understanding I found the following and wondered if it could be the same person....The Josephus that I found, his name was Joseph Cephus Riddle who was born 05-1840 in Cumberland Co., Ky. He was the son of Nathan A.R. and Mary Pierce. But the one I have married Tyressa J. Ashlock in 1863....Are we talking about the same one? He did have a brother William Peters (Billy) Riddle who was born ca 1835 in Cumberland Co. Ky., but I have 2 marriages for him.#1 is to Lucinda Bow who was born ca. 1834 in Ky. and #2 is to a Mary Riddle. (could this be Mariah?), or is this a totally different family? The dates are very, very close to the children of Nathan and Mary of Cumberland Co., Ky. I havent ran across a Davis Riddle yet, but that doesnt mean anything...just have lots and lots of Riddles and those were the two that I knew of....Who is the parents of this Davis Riddle, and was he also born in Cumberland Co., Ky.? Its just so odd that the same names and births are so alike...made me wonder who you were talking about....Thanks Loretta Riddle in Evansville, In. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RPoind4199@aol.com> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Josephus RIDDLE > Rodney, > I've been TRYING to sort through all the stray RIDDLE's in Clinton and > Cumberland Co., KY. I was looking at your notes, my notes, and various > source documents and ran across Josephus RIDDLE. You say you list him under > 1-2-1-2-4. Thought I would pass along some findings. > > In the 1860 Cumberland Co., KY Census > > #398 RIDDLE, Josephus, 19, m, KY > RIDDLE, Elizabeth, 20, f, KY > > This couple appears to have been counted twice in the census!! > 1860 Clinton Co., KY > #522 RIDDLE, William, 30 m, farmer, KY; Mariah, 30 f, housework, KY; Martha > S., 6 f, KY; Nancy, 4 f, KY; William D., 3 m, KY; John W, 1/12 m, KY; > Josefus B., 19 m, farmer, KY; Elizabeth, 20 f, housework > > It looks like William RIDDLE and Josephus B. RIDDLE are brothers. Below is 9 > year old Joseph and 21 year old William in their fathers household. > > 1850 Census of Clinton Co., KY > > RIDDLE, Davis, 49, Martha, 47, William, 21, Isaac, 19, Lucy, 16, Nancy, 14 > James, 12, Martha, 11, Josephus, 9, Lucy, 7,George, 4. > > Also, in "Cumberland Co., Marriages of Kentucky 1800-1900" by Kenneth C. > WILLIAMS I found this: > "RIDDLE, Joseph, Clinton Co., and C. Elizabeth--December 1859. > > So Josephus is Joseph B. RIDDLE (son of Davis RIDDLE) and his wife is C. > Elizabeth ________. > That's it! Best Regards, > Robin L. Poindexter > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > >

Wow, Betty, I wouldn't consider $75 a night very cheap!! Doris ---------- > From: BJWebbb@aol.com > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Fwd: The Family History Experience > Date: Monday, August 23, 1999 10:41 AM > > > --part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Forwarding this to those of you who have not already squandered their summer > vacation (as have I). This thing looks pretty good. And if you need a cheap, > clean, centrally located room, I recommend the Royal National, right across > from Russell Square, in Bloomsbury. Rooms are from around $75 a night, and > includes a continental breakfast (with instant coffee) > Betty Webb > > --part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <BORDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) > by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 > 10:42:00 -0400 > Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by > rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v60.25) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:41:44 > -0400 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18722; > Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:39:00 -0700 (PDT) > Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:39:00 -0700 (PDT) > Message-Id: <4.1.19990823075418.00955800@mail.fea.net> > X-Sender: merle@mail.fea.net > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:55:16 -0700 > Old-To: Border-l@rootsweb.com > From: linda Merle <merle@fea.net> > Subject: Fwd: The Family History Experience > Old-Cc: Scotch-Irish-l@rootsweb.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Resent-Message-ID: <zH_hoC.A.0jE.C0Vw3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> > To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4927 > X-Loop: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: BORDER-L-request@rootsweb.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >For seven years the Society of Genealogists has held its enormously > >successful Family History Fair in London. Now, it has expanded this > >concept and brings the Family History Experience to Britain's premier > >venue, the National Exhibition Centre Birmingham. 25th & 26th September > >10am - 6pm [4pm Sunday] > > > >So, not only a fair but an introduction to the whole world of family > >history: with seminars for the absolute beginner and a range of lectures to > >suit the beginner and the advanced researcher alike. > > > >And then there is the Fair itself, with family history societies, record > >offices and retail stands offering new and second-hand books, computer > >software, postcards, maps, ephemera and much more; and all offering their > >knowledge and experience to help you. > > > >There will be experts on hand to offer FREE help and advice on the most > >basic of problems as well as on the more demanding. Available for you to > >use FREE, will be many of the research resources available in the Society > >of Genealogists' Library, with lots of assistance so you make the very most > >of your time. > > > >Getting to the NEC is so easy by train, car or by air. Can you really > >afford to miss this unique event? > > > >Entrance 6 pounds, Car park 5 pounds. Advance tickets only 4 pounds. > > > >Visit the SoG website: www.sog.org.uk > >E-mail: Sales@sog.org.uk > >Telephone: 0171 253 5235 > > > >The Society of Genealogists > >14 Charterhouse Buildings, > >Goswell Road, > >London > >EC1M 7BA > > > > > >Geoffrey Stone, SoG Mailing List Administrator. > > lists@sog.org.uk > > > > > --part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary-- > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you hugged a RIDDLE lately?! > SMILE & pass it on! > > >

In a message dated 8/23/1999 10:11:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rdvsr@aol.com writes: > Mrs. CROSS now deceased talked to me quite a lot about her RIDDLE people. > She spoke of a "Josephus" who was of her family, and he was not the same as > the one who was son of Davis. Davis was of John and not Joseph. The way I > > recall, the one she called Josephus was on the census and Joseph C. or some > such. Will have to do some looing into that matter. I do think there was > > another RIDDLE called Josephus, who was not the one in David RIDDLE > household. > > R. Veitschegger > I'm sorry.......I started to tell you and got sidetracked.....My gr. grandfather John Riddle, son of Nathan A.R. Riddle called his grandfather..... Grandpa Josephus......Mom said he very seldom ever mentioned his dad, but talked about Grandpa Josephus a lot.....that is,,,,,,,after he got older. Helen

In a message dated 8/23/1999 10:11:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rdvsr@aol.com writes: > Mrs. CROSS now deceased talked to me quite a lot about her RIDDLE people. > She spoke of a "Josephus" who was of her family, and he was not the same as > the one who was son of Davis. Davis was of John and not Joseph. The way I > > recall, the one she called Josephus was on the census and Joseph C. or some > such. Will have to do some looing into that matter. I do think there was > > another RIDDLE called Josephus, who was not the one in David RIDDLE > household. > > R. Veitschegger I'm sorry to butt in,,,,,,but I was wondering if the Mrs Cross you speak of......would that be Vestal Cross?.......and when did she die? Helen

Mrs. CROSS now deceased talked to me quite a lot about her RIDDLE people. She spoke of a "Josephus" who was of her family, and he was not the same as the one who was son of Davis. Davis was of John and not Joseph. The way I recall, the one she called Josephus was on the census and Joseph C. or some such. Will have to do some looing into that matter. I do think there was another RIDDLE called Josephus, who was not the one in David RIDDLE household. R. Veitschegger

Rodney, I've been TRYING to sort through all the stray RIDDLE's in Clinton and Cumberland Co., KY. I was looking at your notes, my notes, and various source documents and ran across Josephus RIDDLE. You say you list him under 1-2-1-2-4. Thought I would pass along some findings. In the 1860 Cumberland Co., KY Census #398 RIDDLE, Josephus, 19, m, KY RIDDLE, Elizabeth, 20, f, KY This couple appears to have been counted twice in the census!! 1860 Clinton Co., KY #522 RIDDLE, William, 30 m, farmer, KY; Mariah, 30 f, housework, KY; Martha S., 6 f, KY; Nancy, 4 f, KY; William D., 3 m, KY; John W, 1/12 m, KY; Josefus B., 19 m, farmer, KY; Elizabeth, 20 f, housework It looks like William RIDDLE and Josephus B. RIDDLE are brothers. Below is 9 year old Joseph and 21 year old William in their fathers household. 1850 Census of Clinton Co., KY RIDDLE, Davis, 49, Martha, 47, William, 21, Isaac, 19, Lucy, 16, Nancy, 14 James, 12, Martha, 11, Josephus, 9, Lucy, 7,George, 4. Also, in "Cumberland Co., Marriages of Kentucky 1800-1900" by Kenneth C. WILLIAMS I found this: "RIDDLE, Joseph, Clinton Co., and C. Elizabeth--December 1859. So Josephus is Joseph B. RIDDLE (son of Davis RIDDLE) and his wife is C. Elizabeth ________. That's it! Best Regards, Robin L. Poindexter

--part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forwarding this to those of you who have not already squandered their summer vacation (as have I). This thing looks pretty good. And if you need a cheap, clean, centrally located room, I recommend the Royal National, right across from Russell Square, in Bloomsbury. Rooms are from around $75 a night, and includes a continental breakfast (with instant coffee) Betty Webb --part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <BORDER-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (rly-yc03.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.35]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:42:00 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc03.mx.aol.com (v60.25) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:41:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA18722; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990823075418.00955800@mail.fea.net> X-Sender: merle@mail.fea.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:55:16 -0700 Old-To: Border-l@rootsweb.com From: linda Merle <merle@fea.net> Subject: Fwd: The Family History Experience Old-Cc: Scotch-Irish-l@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <zH_hoC.A.0jE.C0Vw3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4927 X-Loop: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: BORDER-L-request@rootsweb.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >For seven years the Society of Genealogists has held its enormously >successful Family History Fair in London. Now, it has expanded this >concept and brings the Family History Experience to Britain's premier >venue, the National Exhibition Centre Birmingham. 25th & 26th September >10am - 6pm [4pm Sunday] > >So, not only a fair but an introduction to the whole world of family >history: with seminars for the absolute beginner and a range of lectures to >suit the beginner and the advanced researcher alike. > >And then there is the Fair itself, with family history societies, record >offices and retail stands offering new and second-hand books, computer >software, postcards, maps, ephemera and much more; and all offering their >knowledge and experience to help you. > >There will be experts on hand to offer FREE help and advice on the most >basic of problems as well as on the more demanding. Available for you to >use FREE, will be many of the research resources available in the Society >of Genealogists' Library, with lots of assistance so you make the very most >of your time. > >Getting to the NEC is so easy by train, car or by air. Can you really >afford to miss this unique event? > >Entrance 6 pounds, Car park 5 pounds. Advance tickets only 4 pounds. > >Visit the SoG website: www.sog.org.uk >E-mail: Sales@sog.org.uk >Telephone: 0171 253 5235 > >The Society of Genealogists >14 Charterhouse Buildings, >Goswell Road, >London >EC1M 7BA > > >Geoffrey Stone, SoG Mailing List Administrator. > lists@sog.org.uk > --part1_5741f476.24f2e1b4_boundary--

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Sons of Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle m. 6/24/1819 Washington Co., IN John G. Riddle b. 12/24/1819 IN d. CO (Have information coming) Wilie (Wiley) Riddle b. 4/12/1822 IN Henry Riddle b. IN Benjamin Riddle b. IN William A. Riddle b. 3/21/1829 IN d. 1/31/1892 Marion Co., IA Eli Riddle b. 6/14/1832 IN 1/5/1902 Barton Co., MO I am trying to trace the other 3 brothers, Wiley, Benjamin and Henry. In the 1850 St. Joseph Co., IN census index it lists 3 Riddles by those names. Benjamin and Henry in Warren Twp. and Wile in Union Twp. I have ordered the census for 1850; but since it doesn't list birthplace of parents, I still won't be able to learn if they are in fact the brothers or the other 3 known Riddles. A volunteer with the South Bend Area Genealogical Society has sent me a little information on the 1860 census. Benjamin w/wife Amelia in Warren Twp.; Wiley w/wife Maranda in Union Twp. No sign of Henry. In the 1870 census index, Wiley is gone but Miranda still there. Benjamin and Amelia are gone. Does anyone have any information on these Riddles? Tom