Can anyione give any info on John Flemming Riddle, b.1835.? I believe he was born in Virginia around Henrico Co., Some one said maybe Orange Co.,N.C. I haven't been able to find him at all. Thanks, Charlotte A.

To Russell D Merryman and others, Indeed, I came across several Lorenzo Dow namesakes. Here's a piece on the original Lorenzo Dow: Lorenzo Dow was reported to be able to raise the devil with his fire and brimstone preaching. He flourished in the 1805-1811 period in middle Tennessee and along the Natchez Trace. He kept a detailed journal of his travels and preaching and published a book, History of a Cosmopolite, which went into many editions. "We had a cry and shout, and it was a weeping, tender time," he wrote of one of his meetings. Some other times of "cry and shout" almost resulted in riot. Once, preaching on "Judgment Day," he put a little Negro boy in the top of a pine tree. There, at the cue from Dow, he was to blow loudly on a horn. When Dow had worked his listeners to the proper fervor and spoke of Gabriel trumpeting the world's end, the little black boy dutifully let loose a resounding blast. Panic ensued. Then, when the hoax was discovered, the indignant started to mob the preacher. Dow was equal to the occasion. "And now, Brethren," he shouted over the tumult, "if a little Negro boy blowing on! a tin horn can make you feel so, how will you feel when the last day really comes?" (see The Devil's Backbone, the Story of the Natchez Trace, by Jonathan Daniels, p.147-55). I am thrilled by the progress I've been able to make in my quest. Of course, I attribute this to the Internet and to the generous folks who have made their investigations available to novices like myself. Just last weekend, we talked to a man who has 5 first cousins living within 100 miles of himself and neither knew the other existed. In my own family, just a week ago, I found family pages for my cousin's great-grandparents and 800 of his relatives about whom he knew next to nothing. With amazement and gratitude, John Weiser (and Cathie Riddle-Weiser)

hello, my name is carol it looks like we are related the family you are researching is the same fam im researching you are right janette is the daughter of william riddell and joyce powell william was born in king and queen co. va his will which i have a copy of was executed in kentucky in1777. william and joyce moved to orange co in 1744. yes janette was born in orange co. va about 1742 and she married a james shepherd. thank you for telling of their other children all i had was francis shepherd.in williams will he states his fathers name as james and his mother as mary (dont know her maiden name)they were from scotland and james was born around 1700-1705 and they farmed until his death he lived to be very old the only problem is when i had researchers do research for me in orange co. va they couldnt find james or mary riddell would like to find out where they are buried so i can plan a trip there. also would like to find james, williams plantations and see if they are still standing. william was a very wealthy farmer.i have all thechildren of william riddell and joicy neal if you need them their children moved to kentucky and became lawyers, judges etc..... well id better go taking up to much of your time. by the way william riddell and joyce powell are my 6xgr grandparents. how about you? thanks carol e-mail jont44@aol.com

Hi can you give me some more information on Sarah Riddell? I'm looking for a Sarah Riddell about the same time frame. thanks Jenny Kernan-Cienfuegos

Does anyone have information on a Uriah or Urias Riddle in 1880 Alabama? >From census records I feel he must have some sort of ties to my ggrandfather Thomas William Riddle. Am interested in any information that anyone may have concerning connection of surnames LYNN, LEMONS, CHANDLER, CHAMBERS, BOWERS OR HOLMES with the Riddle line. Suspect Lemons may be the maiden name of Thomas Williams mother. Area connections....TN., KY., & AL. Thank goodness, someone stated this is an elusive family. Thought I was just really green and stupid. Linda Riddle Lane drgnfly@primenet.com

Please post when you do!!!!! This sounds interesting..... -----Original Message----- From: Mary Hill <mevhill@burgoyne.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, September 09, 1999 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] WILLIAM THOMAS RIDDLE >Hi Bev, > >Good grief, where did you get your information??? I have researched this >family INTENSELY since 1991, and wrote a 150 page book last year on William >Riddle, his possible ancestry, and six of his sons and daughter Happy Jr. >who married Henry Fisher. > >I have long suspected that there was a seventh son - Moses - who was the >oldest. In the Draper Manuscripts there are accounts that he was also hung >with his father. > >I have suspected that the fatehr of William Riddle was Moses Riddle, who >can be found in Orange Co., NC and in 1767 on a tax list in Pittsylvania >Co., VA. He is listed on the list as "Moses Ridel (Indian)." Moses Riddle >died in Henry Co., VA after 1785, when he is on the tax list of Henry Co, VA. > >I am dying to know where you got your information! > >Mary Hill > >At 01:36 PM 9/9/1999 -0600, you wrote: >>Dear List, >> >>This is the first time that I have posted to this site. >> >>My connection to the Riddle family starts with Harriet Happy Riddle, >>b:1777 Goochland Co, Va, d:1862 Hancock Co, Tn, m:7 Feb 1799 Russell Co, >>Va, to spouse:Heinrich Henry Fisher. Happys parents: William Thomas >>Riddle, b:@1745, and Harriet Happy Roberts, b:@1749. Happys siblings >>were: Moses b:@1766, Jmaes b:@1767, Thomas b:@1769, John b:1773, Joseph >>b:@1775, Isaac B:@1775, and William b:@1777. >> >>Now, Happy Riddle and Heinrich Fisher had a daughter, Catherine, who, it >>has been written, was 1/2 to full blood Cherokee indian and stood about >>7' tall, quite an imposing stature. Her grave was 8-9' foot long. The >>Fisher line is of German ancestry. Happy Riddles father, William Thomas >>Riddle, was a Captain in the British Army and was hanged by Americans at >>Riddle's Knob. Harriet Happy Roberts father, James Roberts, was also a >>Captain in the British army. >> >>I am looking for the ancestry of Harriet, William and Moses, and I am >>especially interested in knowing about Moses' indian ancestry? Is it >>documented? Your help is appreciated. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Bev Clark >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >> Want to contact the ListMom?! >> E-mail Rebecca at; >> rebecca@collector.org >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > > >

Hi Bev, Good grief, where did you get your information??? I have researched this family INTENSELY since 1991, and wrote a 150 page book last year on William Riddle, his possible ancestry, and six of his sons and daughter Happy Jr. who married Henry Fisher. I have long suspected that there was a seventh son - Moses - who was the oldest. In the Draper Manuscripts there are accounts that he was also hung with his father. I have suspected that the fatehr of William Riddle was Moses Riddle, who can be found in Orange Co., NC and in 1767 on a tax list in Pittsylvania Co., VA. He is listed on the list as "Moses Ridel (Indian)." Moses Riddle died in Henry Co., VA after 1785, when he is on the tax list of Henry Co, VA. I am dying to know where you got your information! Mary Hill At 01:36 PM 9/9/1999 -0600, you wrote: >Dear List, > >This is the first time that I have posted to this site. > >My connection to the Riddle family starts with Harriet Happy Riddle, >b:1777 Goochland Co, Va, d:1862 Hancock Co, Tn, m:7 Feb 1799 Russell Co, >Va, to spouse:Heinrich Henry Fisher. Happys parents: William Thomas >Riddle, b:@1745, and Harriet Happy Roberts, b:@1749. Happys siblings >were: Moses b:@1766, Jmaes b:@1767, Thomas b:@1769, John b:1773, Joseph >b:@1775, Isaac B:@1775, and William b:@1777. > >Now, Happy Riddle and Heinrich Fisher had a daughter, Catherine, who, it >has been written, was 1/2 to full blood Cherokee indian and stood about >7' tall, quite an imposing stature. Her grave was 8-9' foot long. The >Fisher line is of German ancestry. Happy Riddles father, William Thomas >Riddle, was a Captain in the British Army and was hanged by Americans at >Riddle's Knob. Harriet Happy Roberts father, James Roberts, was also a >Captain in the British army. > >I am looking for the ancestry of Harriet, William and Moses, and I am >especially interested in knowing about Moses' indian ancestry? Is it >documented? Your help is appreciated. > >Thank you, > >Bev Clark > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to contact the ListMom?! > E-mail Rebecca at; > rebecca@collector.org > > > > > >

Hello, I'm new to this list and am searching for any information on Janette Riddell b. in Virginia in 1742. She married in Orange Co., VA about 1766 to Preston Sheppard Gilder. Children: James, William, Frances, Lewis, Roshannah, George, Sarah, Joyce Powell, Elizabeth "Betsy"; Thomas S.; Honorius and Jeannete. Janette was daughter of William Riddell b. about 1720 and died 20 Dec 1776 Orange Co., VA married to Joyce Powell. Children: James Parker, Lewis, William, Joyce, Winnyfrit, Saley and Janette. James Riddell and Mary // were parents of William Riddell. James was born about 1700-1705 in Scotland. He died in Orange Co., VA. His wife Mary was also born in Scotland. Do not know of other children. Any help, additions or corrections greatly appreciated. Will gladly exchange. Thanks, Sarah

Sorry. my mistake. I thought it was a Riddle reunion. Thanks for the info. Charlotte A.

Hi Charlotte: The gathering in Wilkesboro is not a Riddle gathering but a dedication of several historical monuments renovated by the town of Wilkesboro and the Old Wilkes Museum. One of the dedications is of the "Tory Oak" monument built to replace the original Oak that was destroyed by lightning several years ago. The "Tory Oak" is believed to be the tree where Captain William Riddle and others were hanged from for their efforts on behalf of the British during the Revolutionary War. All are welcome. It should be a very interesting event. Ronny

Dear List, This is the first time that I have posted to this site. My connection to the Riddle family starts with Harriet Happy Riddle, b:1777 Goochland Co, Va, d:1862 Hancock Co, Tn, m:7 Feb 1799 Russell Co, Va, to spouse:Heinrich Henry Fisher. Happys parents: William Thomas Riddle, b:@1745, and Harriet Happy Roberts, b:@1749. Happys siblings were: Moses b:@1766, Jmaes b:@1767, Thomas b:@1769, John b:1773, Joseph b:@1775, Isaac B:@1775, and William b:@1777. Now, Happy Riddle and Heinrich Fisher had a daughter, Catherine, who, it has been written, was 1/2 to full blood Cherokee indian and stood about 7' tall, quite an imposing stature. Her grave was 8-9' foot long. The Fisher line is of German ancestry. Happy Riddles father, William Thomas Riddle, was a Captain in the British Army and was hanged by Americans at Riddle's Knob. Harriet Happy Roberts father, James Roberts, was also a Captain in the British army. I am looking for the ancestry of Harriet, William and Moses, and I am especially interested in knowing about Moses' indian ancestry? Is it documented? Your help is appreciated. Thank you, Bev Clark

Hi Steve, will you get in touch with me when you have time, Charlotte A in CA. ceearm@aol.com. We talked a while back about Huntington Beach Library. I had a computer problem and lost all of my email addresses and favorites, so I'm hoping you are reading this. If you are will you send me the Stokes Co.,N.C. Riddles Page and any other Riddle pages, including your own? Thanks, Charlotte A.

Oh Golly, I sent that to the wrong list. Sorry!!!!!!!

I ask for someones address to order a rose study, Somehow the address did not print out and I do need it desperately. Was it you? Eva Whitehead

Hi Ronny, I read your email about the Riddle gathering and just wondered if this is for all Riddles or just a particular branch? My mother's branch of the Riddle family are from Virginia and although I wouldn't be able to attend the gathering I would like to know if there is a way to post names say, of another branch in hopes some one can make a connection. I have been researching for about five years, lots of hours on the computer, sent lots of letters and have had the services of three different genealogists, about to hire another, but I'm still not much further along than I was when I started. >From info I had from family, we had the name wrong for my ggrandfather we had John Robert and it was James Robert, actually that's a big thing of course, but that is also about the most help I had from the genealogist as she said this family was the most elusive one she had ever researched. I bought the Ridlon book about the Riddle family, no help there. I have the book of papers written by Nettie Benson (I think that's right) on order. Kinda at a stand-still now. Hoping you can send some info about the gathering. Thanks, Charlotte A.

----- Original Message ----- From: <SHenry9401@aol.com> to: fcec@lvcm.com Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Riddle Obit.. > , it's a rather lengthy obit, so, I'll hit some of the main points > and if you are still interested, send me your snail mail add and I'll send > you a copy. He was born in Tracy, Mo.; he was a truck driver and reired in > 1984; he was a Mason, he was married to Hazel Hill in 1939; father, John W. > Riddle Sr.; mother, Artie Sexton Riddle; brother, Clarence O. Riddle(these > preceded him in death); 4 sons, John E. Riddle,K.C.,Mo.; Carl E. > Riddle,Platte City, Mo.; Gary L. Ridle,Edgerton,Mo.; and Richard > A.Riddle,Wallace,Mo.; 2 Daughters,Cora May Barton and Alma Jean Kaphart; 3 > brothers, James Riddle, Birmingham,Mo.; George Riddle,K.C., Mo., and Charles > R.Riddle, Faucett, Mo. Hope this helps. Let me know if you want a copy of > the obit. Sue >

Hi Russ, This one is Lorenzo Dow Gold b. Mo d. Colo. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~gold/photo/ldgold.htm Cathie -----Original Message----- From: Russell D Merryman <RDMerry@webtv.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] newcomer researching John Riddle b.Abt 1802 KY-lived in Owen Co. --WebTV-Mail-31976-442 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello Riddle relatives & friends!! I noticed (here attached recent posting, below) that there is another - Lorenzo Dow!! This is triva on names! I also have a Lorenzo Dow, not on my Riddle line, but on by Brogdon line! TRIVA: there where thousands of children in that era name after the original "Lorenzo Dow," a famous circuit rider preacher of that day. I have a relative (ancestor) named America Jane Riddle. Does anyone know what, if any history is behind this curious but cute name "America"? Thanks, Russ --WebTV-Mail-31976-442 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.adl.990907) with ESMTP id KAA19936; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07325; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002501befa1b$048f1720$f994b2d1@oemcomputer> From: "John Weiser" <weiserj@earthlink.net> Old-To: <RIDDLE-L@ROOTSWEB.COM> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:55:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Subject: [RIDDLE-L] newcomer researching John Riddle b.Abt 1802 Y -lived in Owen Co. Resent-Message-ID: <eZtFQ.A.IvB.Bbp13@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4612 X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi folks, My wife's late first husband was Henry Riddle, son of Henry Hampton Riddle (b.1893 Gorman, TX) , son of a Lorenzo Dow Riddle. We believe that last to be the ninth and youngest son of John Riddle of Owen County, KY, per 1850 census. I'm working to solidify and extend the links and go backwards if possible. A month ago, we attended a reunion of 80+ H.H. Riddle descendants and relations in San Diego, CA. I'm a Microsoft Access programmer and we live in the CA desert next to Palm Springs. Glad to have found you, John Weiser (with Catherine (Eubanks Exley) Riddle Weiser) ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html --WebTV-Mail-31976-442-- ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html

Ronny, Thanks for getting back with me on that. Bev

--WebTV-Mail-31976-442 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Hello Riddle relatives & friends!! I noticed (here attached recent posting, below) that there is another - Lorenzo Dow!! This is triva on names! I also have a Lorenzo Dow, not on my Riddle line, but on by Brogdon line! TRIVA: there where thousands of children in that era name after the original "Lorenzo Dow," a famous circuit rider preacher of that day. I have a relative (ancestor) named America Jane Riddle. Does anyone know what, if any history is behind this curious but cute name "America"? Thanks, Russ --WebTV-Mail-31976-442 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.97) by postoffice-231.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mailsorter-101-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.adl.990907) with ESMTP id KAA19936; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07325; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002501befa1b$048f1720$f994b2d1@oemcomputer> From: "John Weiser" <weiserj@earthlink.net> Old-To: <RIDDLE-L@ROOTSWEB.COM> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:55:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Subject: [RIDDLE-L] newcomer researching John Riddle b.Abt 1802 KY -lived in Owen Co. Resent-Message-ID: <eZtFQ.A.IvB.Bbp13@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4612 X-Loop: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: RIDDLE-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi folks, My wife's late first husband was Henry Riddle, son of Henry Hampton Riddle (b.1893 Gorman, TX) , son of a Lorenzo Dow Riddle. We believe that last to be the ninth and youngest son of John Riddle of Owen County, KY, per 1850 census. I'm working to solidify and extend the links and go backwards if possible. A month ago, we attended a reunion of 80+ H.H. Riddle descendants and relations in San Diego, CA. I'm a Microsoft Access programmer and we live in the CA desert next to Palm Springs. Glad to have found you, John Weiser (with Catherine (Eubanks Exley) Riddle Weiser) ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html --WebTV-Mail-31976-442--

I forgot to add that I e-mailed the submitter and asked for contact, without mentioning my concerns, but have received no reply! Pat