Thank you Bill that will help me for sure. As soon as i get my riddles in order I will put them on here for all to see But right now they are on so many papers I haardly know where to began My mother wrote about the family on everything you could think of lol Love Granny Red Crow Barker ps Some may not know this but there were natives in the rRddle line

where was your riddle from what state that would help a lot Granny Red Crow Barker

This thread brings up a point on how names may accidentally be changed. I have a case in point in the present time. One of my brothers almost had his military records give his last name as "KIDDLE" when the top of the "R" in a signature extended above the perforation line on a form. So watch for the possibility of changed names by copies from torn documents. Bill Riddle

Hi, Cousins: Can anyone tell me if Nathan A.R.Riddle had another wife other than Mary Pierce ? If so, can you tell me his children with both wives. Any help would be appreciated> Thanks, Lynn S.

I was wondering if Stephen's line ties in to the Gawn/Robert/Hugh Riddle line from Coleraine,Londonderry,IRE line that move to Londonderry, NH - Colrain, MA about 1718. Richard T Rasmussen wrote: > Need those who are researching the Stephen Riddle line to check my > information and correct me so I won't continue with inaccurate > information. My thanks to all who have so graciously shared, I'm > eternally in your debt. I haven't made it to the FHC or library yet to > validate any of this but will when winter comes around and camping > doesn't interfere. > > Thanks to all on the Riddle mailing list you are the "best"! > Judy Brown Rasmussen > Colorado > > Descendants of Stephen Riddle > Generation No. 1 > > 1. STEPHEN1 RIDDLE was born 1730 in Coleraine, Londonderry, Ireland, > and died December 03, 1807 in Rowan County, NC. He married NANCY > ELIZABETH DOUTHIT, daughter of JOHN DOUTHIT and MARY SCOT. > > Notes for STEPHEN RIDDLE: > Colonial America, 1607-1789 NC Census Index > Riddle,Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1755 > Riddle, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1759 > Ridel, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1762 > > STEPHEN RIDDLE purchased 110 acres of land from David Jones, 13 Aug > 1777, ROWAN CO NC. > William Halbrook/Holbrook of this area married Susannah Riddle in 1784. > Was she a daughter, a widow, or ??? JC Halbrooks [ jcdha@ibm.net ] > 357 Snake Meadow Hill Road Sterling CT 06377 > > Notes for NANCY ELIZABETH DOUTHIT: > Information shared by Gary K. and Jane Mattson Hargrove. > The Douthit's were from Coleraine, Ireland (northern Ireland). Before > living in Ireland they had lived in Aberdeen, Scotland which was about > 1657. One source stated before Aberdeen the line came from Parish, > France and the name spelling was Doucett. This (Paris connection) is > much too sketchy to include in our genealogy. The Douthit's > intermarried with the Browns (Dr. Alexander Brown of KY). > > Children of STEPHEN RIDDLE and NANCY DOUTHIT are: > i. MARY2 RIDDLE, b. 1761, Rowan County, NC. > ii. ELIZABETH RIDDLE, b. February 15, 1763, Rowan County, NC; d. Abt. > 1828, Orange County, IN. > iii. JOHN RIDDLE, b. July 01, 1764, Rowan County, NC; d. October 15, > 1826, Rowan County, NC. > iv. SARAH ANN RIDDLE, b. August 24, 1767, Rowan County, NC; d. Orange > County, IN. > v. BENJAMIN RIDDLE, b. 1769, Rowan County, NC; d. 1845, Hardeman > County, TN. > vi. ANNA RIDDLE, b. November 07, 1772, Rowan County, NC; d. July 28, > 1854, Davies County, IN. > 2. vii. STEPHEN RIDDLE, JR, b. January 12, 1775, Rowan County, Riddles > Ferry, NC; d. 1856, Greene County, IN. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. STEPHEN2 RIDDLE, JR (STEPHEN1) was born January 12, 1775 in Rowan > County, Riddles Ferry, NC, and died 1856 in Greene County, IN. He > married MARY POLLY QUAIT December 26, 1799. > > Notes for STEPHEN RIDDLE, JR: > Indiana Marriages through 1850 in Greene County, IN has: > Ann Riddle married David Sparks 12/22/1850 > Betsey Riddle married James Ferguson 8/14/1823 > Clementine Riddles married Jacob Holmes 1/11/1842 > Luremy Riddles married Nehemiah Melton 12/3/1835 (my GGGrandparents) > Lurainy and Nehemiah (I have an original copy in my possession....Judy > Brown Rasmussen > Luveny Riddles married Nehemiah Walton 12/3/1835 (possibly a twin of > Luremy/Lurainy/Lurenna or translation error ?) > Sarah Riddles married Jordan Wilson 10/14/1835 > > Helen (Hel2000@aol.com) on the Riddle Mailing List has some interesting > children after Mary Quait Riddle is 50...possible but....Anne b 1832, > William b 1836, and Andrew Jackson b 1838 in Greene County, IN, d > 6/10/1912 in Newberry, Greene County, IN married to Eliza Storm b ca > 1838, d bef 1885. > > Surely some of the above are the names for his unknown children.... > > I also have a copy of a farm sale ad (thanks to Cathy at > KAYOMAXB@aol.com) for Stephen Riddle. The ad reads.... > A Valuable Farm For Sale! > The undersigned wishes to inform the public generally, that he has a > large farm for sale, situated in Greene county, Ind. in Center > Township. Immediately on the road leading from Springville, in > Lawrence > county, to Terre Haute, two and a half miles north west from > Jonesborough, twelve miles east of Bloomfield, and eighteen miles from > Bloomington. The same contains two hundred and forty-seven acres; > about > one hundred acres in ? , in good repair, with a good dwelling house and > kitchen, barn and stables; situated for one of the best tavern stand > that is in this section of county, which the subscriber offers now on > the most accomodating terms for cash, and at a low rate. Any person > wishing to purchase will please call at my residence on said farm, and > examine for themselves, and the terms will be made known. I flatter > myself that any person wishing to buy will not be disatisfied with the > terms. STEPHEN RIDDLE September 7, 1849. (As you can tell it was > hard to read.) > > Most of the information that made the connection of Lurainy to her > Riddle family is the result of shared information on our wonderful > Riddle mailing list. But a BIG thanks to the Hargroves who cemented > the > reunion. They are serving our country in England at this time > (6/1999). God bless our military and God bless America! > > Riddle,Stephen, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 283 > > Riddle, Wiley, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 291 > > Riddle, Samuel, IN, Greene Center Township,1850, 148, 287 > > Riddle, Anne, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 291 > > Riddle, Stephen IN GREENE CO. 118 1840 > Riddle, Bailey IN GREENE CO. 118 1840 > Riddle, Lemuel IN GREENE CO. 110 1840 > > Riddle, Stephen IN GREENE CO. 157 1830 > Riddle, Samuel IN GREENE CO. 157 1830 > > Riddle, Stephen NC STOKES CO. 142 1810 > Riddle, Jere NC STOKES CO.154 1810 > > Name, State, County, Location, Page, Year, Age, Sex, Age Ranges, Census > Type > Riddle, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 175 1790 2-01-05-00-00 > Riddle, John NC ROWAN CO. 175 1790 01-00-01-00-00 > > Children of STEPHEN RIDDLE and MARY QUAIT are: > i. BAILEY3 RIDDLE, b. NC; d. Abt. 1850, MO. > ii. SARAH RIDDLE, m. JORDAN WILSON, October 14, 1835, Greene County, > IN. > > Notes for SARAH RIDDLE: > Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > iii. DAVID RIDDLE, b. 1799; d. 1833. > iv. ELIZABETH BETSEY RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1800, NC; m. JAMES FERGUSON, > August 14, 1823, Greene County, IN. > > Notes for ELIZABETH BETSEY RIDDLE: > Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > v. SAMUEL RIDDLE, b. 1800, NC; d. Greene County, IN; m. ELIZABETH > WILSON. > 3. vi. JONATHAN RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1803, NC; d. November 17, 1883, Greene > County, IN. > vii. MARY RIDDLE, b. 1810, NC. > 4. viii. LURAINY RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, NC; d. Unknown, Washington or > Douglas County, NE. > ix. CLEMENTINE RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1820, IN; m. JACOB HOLMES, January 11, > 1842, Greene County, IN. > > Notes for CLEMENTINE RIDDLE: > Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > x. UNKNOWN RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1822. > xi. RENA RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, IN. > xii. UNKNOWN2 RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, IN. > xiii. ANNE RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825; m. DAVID SPARKS, December 22, 1850, > Greene County, IN. > > Generation No. 3 > > 3. JONATHAN3 RIDDLE (STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born Abt. 1803 in NC, and > died November 17, 1883 in Greene County, IN. He married AMANDAE E. > CARMICHAEL. > > Children of JONATHAN RIDDLE and AMANDAE CARMICHAEL are: > 5. i. DANIEL V4 RIDDLE, b. October 10, 1862; d. February 25, 1922, > Bloomfield, IN. > ii. SARAH J. RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1864; m. GENERAL FRY. > iii. SEYMOUR RIDDLE, b. September 01, 1868; d. June 10, 1944, ? Buried > in Grandview Cemetery, Bloomfield, IN; m. PEARL O. TRYON. > iv. JASPER RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1871; m. ARTIE NOEL. > 6. v. JOHN A. RIDDLE, b. September 16, 1872, Cincinnati, IN. > vi. MILFORD RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1876; m. (1) LAURA JANE HUDSON; m. (2) > FLORENCE KIDD. > vii. OSCAR RIDDLE, b. September 27, 1877; d. November 1968, > Bloomfield, > IN; m. LEONA ?. > > Notes for OSCAR RIDDLE: > Grandview Cemetery > > Notes for LEONA ?: > Grandview Cemetery > > viii. IDA E. RIDDLE, b. March 15, 1880, Cincinnati, Greene County, IN; > d. January 1967, IN; m. MELL MITCHELL. > ix. BERTHA A. RIDDLE, b. June 27, 1882, Cincinnati, Greene County, IN; > m. JESSE F. WEISMAN. > > 4. LURAINY3 RIDDLE (STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born Abt. 1825 in NC, and > died Unknown in Washington or Douglas County, NE. She married NEHEMIAH > MELTON December 03, 1835 in Greene County, IN. > > Notes for LURAINY RIDDLE: > Her first name so far could be..... > Lurainy > Luremy > Lurenna > > Conflicting age dates is confusing because some of her children's > birthdates and her age doesn't jive. Need more confirmation besides > census reports to verify her age. > > Refer to Nehemiah Sr notes for census information. > > Notes for NEHEMIAH MELTON: > I have a marriage certificate for Nehemiah Melton and Luremy Riddles > in > Greene County, IN on 12/3/1835. > > I have a Land Patent Report IN0180___.169 for a Patentee Nehemiah > Melton, Signature Date 3/20/1837 for 1,SESW,9/,6-N,2-W,N,2nd Principal > Meridian,40 acres, Lawrence County, IN. > > There is another Land Patent IN180___.170 for a Patentee Nathan Melton, > Signature Date 3/20/1837 for 1,SENE,17/,6-N,2-W,N,2nd Principal > Meridian,40 acres, Lawrence County, IN. (Is this his father?). > > The 1850 Federal Census of Lawrence County, Indiana > Name / Age / Birthplace > MELTON, LUTHER 02 IND > MELTON, MIRA 38 KY > MELTON, JANE 19 IND > MELTON, ELIZABETH 50 NC > MELTON, NATHAN 65 VA > MELTON, LURENNA 38 NC > MELTON, DOROTHY 06 IND > MELTON, ELI 08 IND > MELTON, MINOR 11 IND > MELTON, JOHN 13 IND > > I have AIS Nebraska Census Index of 1870 showing Nehemiah Melton in > Washington County, NE page 458 in the Fort Calhoun Precinct, ID# > NE29923294. > > Washington County Nebraska Historical Society.... > Pilot 11/30 & 12/7/93 a Minor Melton, 85 years Mexican War veteran died > at Douglas County Poorhouse. Confused with Minor Melton of WC, may be > father & son, MM's brother-in-law George Brown says father & son. Son > now in Oklahoma (not Colorado) and doing very well. > > 1880 R94 > Lurany 55 NC > C Brown ca 1865 ? > Lorana 25 Ind wed George Brown > 1880 R94 > Nehemiah 22 IA & Rebecca Can. no children > > Melton, Nehemiah 57 KY wed Lorana Riddle 57 NC. Children: Lorana 16 > Ind (George Brown, Richland Township), Nehemiah 13 IA (Rebecca Brown, > Richland Township), 2/11/70 Frances Jane ca/52 Ill (Adam Ki(e)rker) > > 1870 - 25 > Wed no 65 > Frances Jane Melton, 18, Springville, Ind. (Nehemiah & Lurana Riddle) > and Adam Kirker 21, Zanesville, Ohio (John & Margaret Bock) wed 2/11/70 > by James Brown, JP at Minor Melton home. > > Children of LURAINY RIDDLE and NEHEMIAH MELTON are: > i. JOHN4 MELTON, b. Abt. 1837, IN; m. MARGARET BOCK, February 11, > 1870, > NE. > 7. ii. MINOR MELTON, b. August 28, 1839, Greene County, IN; d. October > 06, 1916, Fairview, OK. > iii. ELI MELTON, b. Abt. 1842, IN. > 8. iv. DOROTHY MELTON, b. May 10, 1845, Greene County, IN; d. May 01, > 1922, Las Animas, CO. > 9. v. LUTHER MELTON, b. Abt. 1846, IN; d. August 16, 1916, La Monta, > OR. > > Generation No. 4 > > 5. DANIEL V4 RIDDLE (JONATHAN3, STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born October > 10, 1862, and died February 25, 1922 in Bloomfield, IN. He married > TILLIE J. SPARKS. > > Notes for DANIEL V RIDDLE: > Grandview Cemetery > > Notes for TILLIE J. SPARKS: > Grandview Cemetery. > > Child of DANIEL RIDDLE and TILLIE SPARKS is: > i. CLAUDE5 RIDDLE, b. 1893, Greene County, IN; d. October 03, 1896, > Greene County, IN. > > 6. JOHN A.4 RIDDLE (JONATHAN3, STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born September > 16, 1872 in Cincinnati, IN. He married EFFIE HORNBECK. > > Children of JOHN RIDDLE and EFFIE HORNBECK are: > i. MORRIS JEFFERSON5 RIDDLE, b. February 15, 1907, Linton, IN; m. > DOROTHY CLARA PATTON. > ii. WILMA EVELINE RIDDLE, b. November 17, 1909, Greene County, IN. > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------- > To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > P. O. Box 6798 > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > > For more information, see their Web Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hi again, I remembered one place I have seen the BIDDLE surname mixed up with the RIDDLE surname and found it again. I have a CD-ROM "Volunteer U.S. Soldiers Military Records 1784-1811". There are 4 Riddle men on it. For William Riddle, it says the following: Riddle, William Captain Maurice's Company Virginia Militia 1807 Private REFERENCE CARD Original filed under Biddle, William Interesting! The other three Riddle's on the CD-ROM are: Riddle, Zachariah Doherty's Regiment of Militia Territory South of the Ohio 1793-1794 Private Riddle, John Brock's Co., I Reg US Levies Lieut. Col. Darke Corporal Riddle, Archibald I (Triplett's) Regiment Georgia Militia 1798 Ensign This CD-ROM is neat, because it has the actual file cards scanned in, so you can see the old original. The Territory South of the Ohio was what KY and TN was called from about 1794-1798. Mary Hill At 06:53 PM 9/17/1999 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Jeannie, > >I appreciate your research. I have run into some Biddle's and so far have >not followed them out. I am going to now! > >Thanks, > >Mary Hill > >At 12:04 PM 9/17/1999 EDT, you wrote: >>Hi, all >> >>A tip for the confused: >> >>I just found my ancestor Coleman Riddle, b. 1801, Grant Co., KY, listed in >>the census index on Ancestry.com as Coleman BIDDLE. I've been trying to >find >>out who his parents are for awhile and no luck so far. >> >>So I did a search on BIDDLE instead, and I find a Stephen BIDDLE in the 1810 >>Mason Co. census (Fleming Co., where Coleman ended up in, split off from >>Mason Co. a little after that). I find a Stephen RIDDLE in the 1820 Fleming >>Co. census, and I find Coleman BIDDLE and Stephen BIDDLE in the 1830 Fleming >>Co. census. Then I find a Stephen and a Stephen P. BIDDLE in the 1840 >>Fleming Co. census, no Coleman (I have Coleman's census records already, and >>he's listed in the 1840 census). Then there are a Stophea and a Thomas >>BIDDLE listed in the 1850 Fleming Co. census. Obviously, "Stophea" is far >>more likely to be Stephen. >> >>Anyway, try looking for Biddle when you're looking for your RIDDLE people. >>You might find them. Also try RIDLE, RIDDELL, or RYDELL. >> >>P.S. It remains to be seen if Stephen RIDDLE/BIDDLE is Coleman RIDDLE's >>father. Onward, forever onward in the chase! >> >>Jeannie Smith >> >>http://members.aol.com/WordGenius/riddle.html >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- >> We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... >> What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? >> You'll never know unless you post again! >> RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > > > >

L.D. Riddle (if we have the right one) was born in 1843. We know he had son, Henry Hampton Riddle, born 1893 in Gorman, Eastland Co., TX, just north-west of Comanche County, TX. L.D.R. shows up in the 1870 census in Owen Co. KY but not the 1880 census. So he may have moved to TX in the 1870s. L.D.R. was a teacher and apparently the Comanches had been forced to give up their nomadic ways by the 1870s. Incidentally, I don't find any present-day Riddles in Comanche Co. but plenty in Cherokee County, TX! > Hi all, I just read the email about a branch of the Riddle family being part > Comanche Indian, I think the Riddles were from KY and had moved to TX. It's > always been told in my Riddle branch that we were part Cherokee Indian but I > haven't been able to verify that yet

Hi Jeannie, I appreciate your research. I have run into some Biddle's and so far have not followed them out. I am going to now! Thanks, Mary Hill At 12:04 PM 9/17/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Hi, all > >A tip for the confused: > >I just found my ancestor Coleman Riddle, b. 1801, Grant Co., KY, listed in >the census index on Ancestry.com as Coleman BIDDLE. I've been trying to find >out who his parents are for awhile and no luck so far. > >So I did a search on BIDDLE instead, and I find a Stephen BIDDLE in the 1810 >Mason Co. census (Fleming Co., where Coleman ended up in, split off from >Mason Co. a little after that). I find a Stephen RIDDLE in the 1820 Fleming >Co. census, and I find Coleman BIDDLE and Stephen BIDDLE in the 1830 Fleming >Co. census. Then I find a Stephen and a Stephen P. BIDDLE in the 1840 >Fleming Co. census, no Coleman (I have Coleman's census records already, and >he's listed in the 1840 census). Then there are a Stophea and a Thomas >BIDDLE listed in the 1850 Fleming Co. census. Obviously, "Stophea" is far >more likely to be Stephen. > >Anyway, try looking for Biddle when you're looking for your RIDDLE people. >You might find them. Also try RIDLE, RIDDELL, or RYDELL. > >P.S. It remains to be seen if Stephen RIDDLE/BIDDLE is Coleman RIDDLE's >father. Onward, forever onward in the chase! > >Jeannie Smith > >http://members.aol.com/WordGenius/riddle.html > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com > > > >

Granny Red Crow Barker et. al., > ps Some may not know this but there were natives in the Riddle line We recently heard that our ancestor, Lorenzo Dow Riddle, was married to a Comanche in Texas and had 8 or 9 children with her. We're trying to confirm this and see whether our Henry Hampton Riddle derives from that union or another. And is that the same Lorenzo Dow Riddle, the youngest of 9 children of John Riddle b. 1802, who lived in Owen County, KY? And knowing that Henry Hampton Riddle had 6 children, it looks as though we have some prolific ancestors there! I read a fine piece about Comanches on The Handbook of Texas Online: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/CC/bmc72.html There's another possible tie to natives that I've heard about and that was in the person of the wife of William Riddle of Scott County, KY, Hannah Commack b. 1785 in Virginia. Still on that trail ... John Weiser (with Cathie Riddle Weiser)

Hello - I've just been reading the comments for a couple of days and haven't posted anything up until now. I'm helping a friend/cousin try to find his ancestors. We know that John Thomas Riddle was born in 1853 in Allegheny County or City PA; his mother, Catherine, if she was indeed his real mother, was widowed before or after he was born, he and his "mother" and possibly others moved to Massillon, OH, and that John worked on the towpath of the canal running from Massillon to Pittsburgh when he was about 11 and for a few years after (until about 1864.) It is possible his name wasn't Riddle when born; possible that he was adopted; possible that his father was killed in the Rev. War. Does anyone have a John Thomas Morris Riddle (name taken from a Bible) in their family, or has anyone run across this name before? Thank you. Sasha Stanley stanlekv@erinet.com

not that I know, but both my father and grand father are named morris, and there are quite a few other morris riddles

Hi, I'm not sure how closely the time frame has been set for the arrival of Isaac and family in Texas but Mary Jane Riddle, daughter of Thomas (son of Isaac) was born Feb. 25, 1850 in Titus Co. TX. She gave this birthdate on a pension application. Her sister Martha was born in Kentucky in 1846. (according to census records) I have the actual date for Martha as August 11, 1846. Regards, G-Nell

Hi, Thomas Gregory Riddle, son of Isaac and Anna, married Nancy M. Morris on Oct. 30, 1839 in Boone Co., KY, daughter of Thomas Morris. Does anyone else have a Morris in their Riddle line or has anyone noticed a Morris connection anywhere to this Riddle line? Thank you. G-Nell Winslow

Hi, all A tip for the confused: I just found my ancestor Coleman Riddle, b. 1801, Grant Co., KY, listed in the census index on Ancestry.com as Coleman BIDDLE. I've been trying to find out who his parents are for awhile and no luck so far. So I did a search on BIDDLE instead, and I find a Stephen BIDDLE in the 1810 Mason Co. census (Fleming Co., where Coleman ended up in, split off from Mason Co. a little after that). I find a Stephen RIDDLE in the 1820 Fleming Co. census, and I find Coleman BIDDLE and Stephen BIDDLE in the 1830 Fleming Co. census. Then I find a Stephen and a Stephen P. BIDDLE in the 1840 Fleming Co. census, no Coleman (I have Coleman's census records already, and he's listed in the 1840 census). Then there are a Stophea and a Thomas BIDDLE listed in the 1850 Fleming Co. census. Obviously, "Stophea" is far more likely to be Stephen. Anyway, try looking for Biddle when you're looking for your RIDDLE people. You might find them. Also try RIDLE, RIDDELL, or RYDELL. P.S. It remains to be seen if Stephen RIDDLE/BIDDLE is Coleman RIDDLE's father. Onward, forever onward in the chase! Jeannie Smith http://members.aol.com/WordGenius/riddle.html

Hi Gaylon Yeah, that's the one. Thanks a lot. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Gaylon Cameron <gcameron@bluebonnet.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:47 PM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Fw: Texas web sites >Bob, > I believe this is the message you were wanting a reprint of. >Gaylon > >---------- >> From: Gaylon Cameron <gcameron@bluebonnet.net> >> To: Riddle Mailing List <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Texas web sites >> Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 9:50 PM >> >> Russ >> Here are a couple of Texas web sites you were asking about: >> >> The Texas State Historical Association has a site which includes the >online >> version of the New Handbook of Texas. It is a 7,000 page, six volume >> encyclopedia, which offers some 23,500 articles about the men and women >who >> shaped the state. It has 8,000 community entries which includes >histories >> of all 254 counties and some 8,000 biographies. The address is >> www.tsha.utexas.edu >> >> The Texas State Archives includes a searchable list of Confederate >Pension >> Applications which includes several Riddles. A great deal of other >> information is available, going back all the way to the days of the >> Republic of Texas. The address is www.tsl.state.tx.us/lobby/arcfirst.htm >> >> I'm sure there are more, but these should get you started. >> Gaylon > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html > >

Here's a question for researchers of Isaac and Joseph Riddle (mainly Isaac I guess). Does anyone out there know exactly when Isaac, Anna and most of their children moved from Kentucky to Titus County, Texas? Gaylon, you might be able to find out in the Mt. Pleasant library. I'm sure the Historical Society knows or it is in one of the 'Beginnings of Mt. Pleasant' books. While I am on the subject of early Titus County, when it was still Spanish, one of my ancestors, who's son married Isaac Riddle's granddaughter moved to what is present day Titus County in 1835 or 1836. Does anyone know how I can find out more about him? His name was Robert Andrew Cochran and he was murdered on Swannano Creek about 1845 in a dispute with a man named Wilkenson. I would appreciate any help if anyone has any ideas. Charles Smith charles@pandr.demon.co.uk

Hi Robin, There is so much good information in your email! I just wish I had the time right now to take it item by item and respond to you - and go search some more records, and then get back to you. However, I am just too busy for now. Don't loose this email though - there are some very good things here we need to pursue when I have some time. I will file it, and hopefully there will be some time in the not too far distant future to really go for it! Mary At 12:12 AM 8/22/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Mary, >The only source I have that Nathan RIDDLE was born in Hawkins Co., TN is >Nettie Lee Benson. I can scan the document written by Nettie Benson if you >like and email it to you. > >I suppose Nathan was most likely born in Bledsoe Co., TN. Would you agree? >I see from Rodney V.'s records that Joseph and Rhoda were in county records >of Bledsoe in March 1811. Quote from Rodney's records, > >"Bledsoe Co judgment 29 Mar 1811 State Martha HOLT, >prostr vs George LEACH, Mar 1811 Looney Services, Const. >John HOLMAN, WTN: Joseph RIDDLE, Rhoda RIDDLE, Dauswell >RIDDLE, Catherine RIDDLE, John THROPSHIRE, fine Sep 1810." > >Do you know what this is all about?????? > >I don't believe Nathan RIDDLE was born in Cumberland Co., KY because Joseph >wasn't in the 1810 Cumberland Co Census--only James RIDDLE. Joseph doesn't >show up until 1820. Am I mistaken? Census day in 1810 was 6 Aug 1810, so it >stands to reason that Nathan RIDDLE (b. 23 May 1810) was more than likely >born wherever is father was during the 1810 census. ???????? Was he in the >Bledsoe Co., TN Census of 1810? > >What do you have that shows Joseph and Rhoda were married in Russell Co., VA? > Is this an educated guess? > >Also, while I was going back and looking over my source data I ran across a >letter I copied from Nettie Lee BENSON to to Mr. Kenneth FLOWERS dated 4 May >1982. In it she writes, > >"The Estate settlement of Cornelius ROBERTS was most welcome and I am certain >that it will be most welcome also to other descendants of Thomas RIDDLE and >his wife Happy Roberts; hence, I think I'll put it in one of the issues of >THE TRAIL so others may be able to relate to it. I do believe that most >likely this Roberts family is very closely allied to 'Happy' Roberts. It is >quite possible that Cornelius Roberts was a brother of 'Happy' or a cousin." > >QUESTION--What is it about this estate settlement of Cornelius Roberts that >ties Happy closer to the ROBERTS in Nettie's opinion? Have you seen this >estate settlement? Do you know which county it's filed in? > >I always welcome your input, thanks for keeping me on my toes. Hope I >haven't asked too much at once. >Best Regards, >Robin L. Poindexter > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! > > > >

Hi Judy, I have seen a two or three books at the FHL that talk a lot about your line. I have not pursued them very much, because my line is different. But I know there is good info. out there, through the FHL centers. There is a Douthit book that is good on this line too. Mary Hill At 01:34 PM 8/21/1999 -0600, you wrote: >Need those who are researching the Stephen Riddle line to check my >information and correct me so I won't continue with inaccurate >information. My thanks to all who have so graciously shared, I'm >eternally in your debt. I haven't made it to the FHC or library yet to >validate any of this but will when winter comes around and camping >doesn't interfere. > >Thanks to all on the Riddle mailing list you are the "best"! >Judy Brown Rasmussen >Colorado > >Descendants of Stephen Riddle >Generation No. 1 > >1. STEPHEN1 RIDDLE was born 1730 in Coleraine, Londonderry, Ireland, >and died December 03, 1807 in Rowan County, NC. He married NANCY >ELIZABETH DOUTHIT, daughter of JOHN DOUTHIT and MARY SCOT. > >Notes for STEPHEN RIDDLE: >Colonial America, 1607-1789 NC Census Index >Riddle,Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1755 >Riddle, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1759 >Ridel, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 1762 > >STEPHEN RIDDLE purchased 110 acres of land from David Jones, 13 Aug >1777, ROWAN CO NC. >William Halbrook/Holbrook of this area married Susannah Riddle in 1784. >Was she a daughter, a widow, or ??? JC Halbrooks [ jcdha@ibm.net ] >357 Snake Meadow Hill Road Sterling CT 06377 > >Notes for NANCY ELIZABETH DOUTHIT: >Information shared by Gary K. and Jane Mattson Hargrove. >The Douthit's were from Coleraine, Ireland (northern Ireland). Before >living in Ireland they had lived in Aberdeen, Scotland which was about >1657. One source stated before Aberdeen the line came from Parish, >France and the name spelling was Doucett. This (Paris connection) is >much too sketchy to include in our genealogy. The Douthit's >intermarried with the Browns (Dr. Alexander Brown of KY). > >Children of STEPHEN RIDDLE and NANCY DOUTHIT are: > i. MARY2 RIDDLE, b. 1761, Rowan County, NC. > ii. ELIZABETH RIDDLE, b. February 15, 1763, Rowan County, NC; d. Abt. >1828, Orange County, IN. > iii. JOHN RIDDLE, b. July 01, 1764, Rowan County, NC; d. October 15, >1826, Rowan County, NC. > iv. SARAH ANN RIDDLE, b. August 24, 1767, Rowan County, NC; d. Orange >County, IN. > v. BENJAMIN RIDDLE, b. 1769, Rowan County, NC; d. 1845, Hardeman >County, TN. > vi. ANNA RIDDLE, b. November 07, 1772, Rowan County, NC; d. July 28, >1854, Davies County, IN. >2. vii. STEPHEN RIDDLE, JR, b. January 12, 1775, Rowan County, Riddles >Ferry, NC; d. 1856, Greene County, IN. > > >Generation No. 2 > >2. STEPHEN2 RIDDLE, JR (STEPHEN1) was born January 12, 1775 in Rowan >County, Riddles Ferry, NC, and died 1856 in Greene County, IN. He >married MARY POLLY QUAIT December 26, 1799. > >Notes for STEPHEN RIDDLE, JR: >Indiana Marriages through 1850 in Greene County, IN has: >Ann Riddle married David Sparks 12/22/1850 >Betsey Riddle married James Ferguson 8/14/1823 >Clementine Riddles married Jacob Holmes 1/11/1842 >Luremy Riddles married Nehemiah Melton 12/3/1835 (my GGGrandparents) >Lurainy and Nehemiah (I have an original copy in my possession....Judy >Brown Rasmussen >Luveny Riddles married Nehemiah Walton 12/3/1835 (possibly a twin of >Luremy/Lurainy/Lurenna or translation error ?) >Sarah Riddles married Jordan Wilson 10/14/1835 > >Helen (Hel2000@aol.com) on the Riddle Mailing List has some interesting >children after Mary Quait Riddle is 50...possible but....Anne b 1832, >William b 1836, and Andrew Jackson b 1838 in Greene County, IN, d >6/10/1912 in Newberry, Greene County, IN married to Eliza Storm b ca >1838, d bef 1885. > >Surely some of the above are the names for his unknown children.... > >I also have a copy of a farm sale ad (thanks to Cathy at >KAYOMAXB@aol.com) for Stephen Riddle. The ad reads.... >A Valuable Farm For Sale! >The undersigned wishes to inform the public generally, that he has a >large farm for sale, situated in Greene county, Ind. in Center >Township. Immediately on the road leading from Springville, in >Lawrence >county, to Terre Haute, two and a half miles north west from >Jonesborough, twelve miles east of Bloomfield, and eighteen miles from >Bloomington. The same contains two hundred and forty-seven acres; >about >one hundred acres in ? , in good repair, with a good dwelling house and >kitchen, barn and stables; situated for one of the best tavern stand >that is in this section of county, which the subscriber offers now on >the most accomodating terms for cash, and at a low rate. Any person >wishing to purchase will please call at my residence on said farm, and >examine for themselves, and the terms will be made known. I flatter >myself that any person wishing to buy will not be disatisfied with the >terms. STEPHEN RIDDLE September 7, 1849. (As you can tell it was >hard to read.) > >Most of the information that made the connection of Lurainy to her >Riddle family is the result of shared information on our wonderful >Riddle mailing list. But a BIG thanks to the Hargroves who cemented >the >reunion. They are serving our country in England at this time >(6/1999). God bless our military and God bless America! > >Riddle,Stephen, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 283 > >Riddle, Wiley, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 291 > >Riddle, Samuel, IN, Greene Center Township,1850, 148, 287 > >Riddle, Anne, IN, Greene Center Township, 1850, 148, 291 > >Riddle, Stephen IN GREENE CO. 118 1840 >Riddle, Bailey IN GREENE CO. 118 1840 >Riddle, Lemuel IN GREENE CO. 110 1840 > >Riddle, Stephen IN GREENE CO. 157 1830 >Riddle, Samuel IN GREENE CO. 157 1830 > >Riddle, Stephen NC STOKES CO. 142 1810 >Riddle, Jere NC STOKES CO.154 1810 > >Name, State, County, Location, Page, Year, Age, Sex, Age Ranges, Census >Type >Riddle, Stephen NC ROWAN CO. 175 1790 2-01-05-00-00 >Riddle, John NC ROWAN CO. 175 1790 01-00-01-00-00 > > >Children of STEPHEN RIDDLE and MARY QUAIT are: > i. BAILEY3 RIDDLE, b. NC; d. Abt. 1850, MO. > ii. SARAH RIDDLE, m. JORDAN WILSON, October 14, 1835, Greene County, >IN. > >Notes for SARAH RIDDLE: >Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > iii. DAVID RIDDLE, b. 1799; d. 1833. > iv. ELIZABETH BETSEY RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1800, NC; m. JAMES FERGUSON, >August 14, 1823, Greene County, IN. > >Notes for ELIZABETH BETSEY RIDDLE: >Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > v. SAMUEL RIDDLE, b. 1800, NC; d. Greene County, IN; m. ELIZABETH >WILSON. >3. vi. JONATHAN RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1803, NC; d. November 17, 1883, Greene >County, IN. > vii. MARY RIDDLE, b. 1810, NC. >4. viii. LURAINY RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, NC; d. Unknown, Washington or >Douglas County, NE. > ix. CLEMENTINE RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1820, IN; m. JACOB HOLMES, January 11, >1842, Greene County, IN. > >Notes for CLEMENTINE RIDDLE: >Indiana Marriages through 1850. > > x. UNKNOWN RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1822. > xi. RENA RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, IN. > xii. UNKNOWN2 RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825, IN. > xiii. ANNE RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1825; m. DAVID SPARKS, December 22, 1850, >Greene County, IN. > > >Generation No. 3 > >3. JONATHAN3 RIDDLE (STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born Abt. 1803 in NC, and >died November 17, 1883 in Greene County, IN. He married AMANDAE E. >CARMICHAEL. > >Children of JONATHAN RIDDLE and AMANDAE CARMICHAEL are: >5. i. DANIEL V4 RIDDLE, b. October 10, 1862; d. February 25, 1922, >Bloomfield, IN. > ii. SARAH J. RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1864; m. GENERAL FRY. > iii. SEYMOUR RIDDLE, b. September 01, 1868; d. June 10, 1944, ? Buried >in Grandview Cemetery, Bloomfield, IN; m. PEARL O. TRYON. > iv. JASPER RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1871; m. ARTIE NOEL. >6. v. JOHN A. RIDDLE, b. September 16, 1872, Cincinnati, IN. > vi. MILFORD RIDDLE, b. Abt. 1876; m. (1) LAURA JANE HUDSON; m. (2) >FLORENCE KIDD. > vii. OSCAR RIDDLE, b. September 27, 1877; d. November 1968, >Bloomfield, >IN; m. LEONA ?. > >Notes for OSCAR RIDDLE: >Grandview Cemetery > >Notes for LEONA ?: >Grandview Cemetery > > > viii. IDA E. RIDDLE, b. March 15, 1880, Cincinnati, Greene County, IN; >d. January 1967, IN; m. MELL MITCHELL. > ix. BERTHA A. RIDDLE, b. June 27, 1882, Cincinnati, Greene County, IN; >m. JESSE F. WEISMAN. > >4. LURAINY3 RIDDLE (STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born Abt. 1825 in NC, and >died Unknown in Washington or Douglas County, NE. She married NEHEMIAH >MELTON December 03, 1835 in Greene County, IN. > >Notes for LURAINY RIDDLE: >Her first name so far could be..... >Lurainy >Luremy >Lurenna > >Conflicting age dates is confusing because some of her children's >birthdates and her age doesn't jive. Need more confirmation besides >census reports to verify her age. > >Refer to Nehemiah Sr notes for census information. > >Notes for NEHEMIAH MELTON: > I have a marriage certificate for Nehemiah Melton and Luremy Riddles >in >Greene County, IN on 12/3/1835. > >I have a Land Patent Report IN0180___.169 for a Patentee Nehemiah >Melton, Signature Date 3/20/1837 for 1,SESW,9/,6-N,2-W,N,2nd Principal >Meridian,40 acres, Lawrence County, IN. > >There is another Land Patent IN180___.170 for a Patentee Nathan Melton, >Signature Date 3/20/1837 for 1,SENE,17/,6-N,2-W,N,2nd Principal >Meridian,40 acres, Lawrence County, IN. (Is this his father?). > >The 1850 Federal Census of Lawrence County, Indiana >Name / Age / Birthplace >MELTON, LUTHER 02 IND > MELTON, MIRA 38 KY > MELTON, JANE 19 IND > MELTON, ELIZABETH 50 NC > MELTON, NATHAN 65 VA > MELTON, LURENNA 38 NC > MELTON, DOROTHY 06 IND > MELTON, ELI 08 IND > MELTON, MINOR 11 IND > MELTON, JOHN 13 IND > >I have AIS Nebraska Census Index of 1870 showing Nehemiah Melton in >Washington County, NE page 458 in the Fort Calhoun Precinct, ID# >NE29923294. > >Washington County Nebraska Historical Society.... >Pilot 11/30 & 12/7/93 a Minor Melton, 85 years Mexican War veteran died >at Douglas County Poorhouse. Confused with Minor Melton of WC, may be >father & son, MM's brother-in-law George Brown says father & son. Son >now in Oklahoma (not Colorado) and doing very well. > >1880 R94 >Lurany 55 NC >C Brown ca 1865 ? >Lorana 25 Ind wed George Brown >1880 R94 >Nehemiah 22 IA & Rebecca Can. no children > >Melton, Nehemiah 57 KY wed Lorana Riddle 57 NC. Children: Lorana 16 >Ind (George Brown, Richland Township), Nehemiah 13 IA (Rebecca Brown, >Richland Township), 2/11/70 Frances Jane ca/52 Ill (Adam Ki(e)rker) > >1870 - 25 >Wed no 65 >Frances Jane Melton, 18, Springville, Ind. (Nehemiah & Lurana Riddle) >and Adam Kirker 21, Zanesville, Ohio (John & Margaret Bock) wed 2/11/70 >by James Brown, JP at Minor Melton home. > > >Children of LURAINY RIDDLE and NEHEMIAH MELTON are: > i. JOHN4 MELTON, b. Abt. 1837, IN; m. MARGARET BOCK, February 11, >1870, >NE. >7. ii. MINOR MELTON, b. August 28, 1839, Greene County, IN; d. October >06, 1916, Fairview, OK. > iii. ELI MELTON, b. Abt. 1842, IN. >8. iv. DOROTHY MELTON, b. May 10, 1845, Greene County, IN; d. May 01, >1922, Las Animas, CO. >9. v. LUTHER MELTON, b. Abt. 1846, IN; d. August 16, 1916, La Monta, >OR. > > > >Generation No. 4 > >5. DANIEL V4 RIDDLE (JONATHAN3, STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born October >10, 1862, and died February 25, 1922 in Bloomfield, IN. He married >TILLIE J. SPARKS. > >Notes for DANIEL V RIDDLE: >Grandview Cemetery > >Notes for TILLIE J. SPARKS: >Grandview Cemetery. > >Child of DANIEL RIDDLE and TILLIE SPARKS is: > i. CLAUDE5 RIDDLE, b. 1893, Greene County, IN; d. October 03, 1896, >Greene County, IN. > >6. JOHN A.4 RIDDLE (JONATHAN3, STEPHEN2, STEPHEN1) was born September >16, 1872 in Cincinnati, IN. He married EFFIE HORNBECK. > >Children of JOHN RIDDLE and EFFIE HORNBECK are: > i. MORRIS JEFFERSON5 RIDDLE, b. February 15, 1907, Linton, IN; m. >DOROTHY CLARA PATTON. > ii. WILMA EVELINE RIDDLE, b. November 17, 1909, Greene County, IN. > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------- >To become a member/sponsor of RootsWeb, send $12 or $24 to: > > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative > P. O. Box 6798 > Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 > >For more information, see their Web Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > >

Bob, I believe this is the message you were wanting a reprint of. Gaylon ---------- > From: Gaylon Cameron <gcameron@bluebonnet.net> > To: Riddle Mailing List <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Texas web sites > Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 9:50 PM > > Russ > Here are a couple of Texas web sites you were asking about: > > The Texas State Historical Association has a site which includes the online > version of the New Handbook of Texas. It is a 7,000 page, six volume > encyclopedia, which offers some 23,500 articles about the men and women who > shaped the state. It has 8,000 community entries which includes histories > of all 254 counties and some 8,000 biographies. The address is > www.tsha.utexas.edu > > The Texas State Archives includes a searchable list of Confederate Pension > Applications which includes several Riddles. A great deal of other > information is available, going back all the way to the days of the > Republic of Texas. The address is www.tsl.state.tx.us/lobby/arcfirst.htm > > I'm sure there are more, but these should get you started. > Gaylon

Hi Cousins and other Listers Is anyone out there researching Wilson Irvine Riddle? Wilson Irvine Riddle (1812-1847) moved to Texas in 1839, owned three San Antonio lots in July 1840, and became a merchant that year. He married Elizabeth Menefee in April 1841 in Tennessee. I just saw his name in the Handbook of Texas Online. Thanks to whichever one of you it was who posted this website to the list. I have somehow deleted that message from my inbox. You listed some other sites that I sure would like to see again. Anyway, my interest in W. I. Riddle is that years ago I corresponded with a lady who I think was a descendant of his. Her family had lived for several generations in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, just across the border from Laredo, Texas. So I assume that they are now Mexican citizens. I think she told me that he came originally from Ireland. Bob