Charles and all, Sorry I have been so long in answering this. To tell the truth I didn't know I had this information on hand. The following is an excerpt from "THE WAY IT WAS" by John Marion Ellis II, M.D. Hope it's what you need. My grandmother's father, Leazerec Anders Cochran, was born in 1827. His mother had written his name on the fly leaf of a Bible and she may have been trying to name her baby Lazarus, spelling the name the way it sounded to her. Not many people had schooling on the frontier in those days. It made little difference, however, because the boy was never called Leazerec, but merely "Cuff". In his book "Pioneers and Heroes of Titus County", Traylor Russell tells how Cuff's parents came originally from Corinth, Mississippi. One of the relatives claimed that Cuff's father was "mean as hell". Maybe he was and maybe he wasn't, but certainly he must have been short-tempered because after getting in an argument over a bale of cotton and two slaves, he was shot to death in a gun fight. Shortly afterwards, Cuff's mother died of pneumonia, leaving Cuff, still a boy, all alone in the world. At this time, Kendall and Kizzie Lewis owned a small trading post near the edge of the Bottom. Kizzie was half-Creek Indian and half-white. Kendall was the first white man to live in Titus County. Cuff knew the couple and liked them and decided to stay with them. He regarded Kendall as "a white man turned Indian", and said he "walked like and Indian and wore an Indian blanket". Cuff was called "Cawhorn", the name given him by the Caddo Indians who were native to the Bottom, and who could not say his name "Cochran". Occasionally Kendall would give a dance at the trading post, playing his fiddle while the Indians beat their drums. Gradually Cuff matured, and began courting an Indian girl. However, trouble broke out after some Indians on Ripley Creek massacred a Mrs. Ripley, five of her children and a grandchild. Two other daughters managed to escape and hide in some canebrakes. Disturbed by this incident, Kendall took his half-Indian wife and children to the Creek Nation in Oklahoma, leaving the trading post in the hands of a man named Gooch with instructions to sell the place. Cuff was also left behind, though he did not have long to wait for company. In 1847 a thirty-family wagon train arrived in East Texas, bringing among others the Riddle family, including a young daughter, Susan Delphia Riddle who soon turned Cuff's mind away from Indian girls. Before long they were married, and Cuff built a log cabin on some upland between White Oak and Cypress creeks, and began raising a family. The story goes on to incorrectly tell of Thomas Riddle being hung by the British and also about John Riddle joining Brigham Young and going to Utah and how Isacc and family got here to Texas. Hope this helps. Gaylon ---------- > From: Charles Smith <charles@pandr.demon.co.uk> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Riddles moving to Titus County > Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 7:05 AM > > Here's a question for researchers of Isaac and Joseph Riddle (mainly > Isaac I guess). Does anyone out there know exactly when Isaac, Anna and > most of their children moved from Kentucky to Titus County, Texas? > Gaylon, you might be able to find out in the Mt. Pleasant library. I'm > sure the Historical Society knows or it is in one of the 'Beginnings of > Mt. Pleasant' books. > > While I am on the subject of early Titus County, when it was still > Spanish, one of my ancestors, who's son married Isaac Riddle's > granddaughter moved to what is present day Titus County in 1835 or 1836. > Does anyone know how I can find out more about him? His name was Robert > Andrew Cochran and he was murdered on Swannano Creek about 1845 in a > dispute with a man named Wilkenson. I would appreciate any help if > anyone has any ideas. > > Charles Smith > charles@pandr.demon.co.uk > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time!

John, Vic, and Susan, Put this down in your notes somewhere if you don't have it already as a possible connection: Lewis Riddle, b. VA about the same time as William, county unknown, parents unknown, married Elizabeth Barbee in Caroline County, VA, a Thomas Riddle was listed in the marriage bond, Elizabeth and Lewis moved to Bourbon County, KY. There are (or at least were at one time) a handful of people on this list who are looking for this guy. Lisa - ----------------------------------------------------------------------

John, Do you know which county in Virginia, William in 1777 was born? I have a William Riddle born in Brunswick Co., Va. about the same time. Brother of Thomas, Henry and Roland, John, Reese, Hardy, Rebecca, Peggy and Polly. Vic -----Original Message----- From: John Weiser <weiserj@earthlink.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] John Lewis RIDDLE >Hi Susan, > >> Need to find parents of John Lewis Riddle b. May 5, 1804 in VA. He was >> married on August 26, 1822 in Owen County, KY to Martha Cammack, dau. of >Beverly Cammack. >> Susie Riddle Pollock, TN > >Thought I'd post a reply based on data from G. Divine and S. Coomer and 1850 >census record. Taken together I have it as follows (per Mr. Divine, William >had 6 other offspring by Hannah): >1 William Riddle b: 1777 in Virginia d: September 07, 1859 in Scott >County, Kentucky >. +Elizabeth McCamack b: in Virginia m: October 30, 1798 in Fauquier >County, Virginia d: 1806 in Scott County, KY >. 2 Mary A. Riddle b: 1799 in Scott County, Kentucky d: December 04, >1858 in Owen Co., Kentucky >.... +D. D. Caldwell >. 2 John Lewis Riddle, Sr. b: May 05, 1804 d: September 1884 in Owen >Co., Kentucky >.... +Martha T. Cammack b: June 22, 1808 m: August 26, 1822 in Owen Co., >Kentucky >*2nd Wife of William Riddle: >. +Hannah b: 1775 in Virginia m: 1806 in Scott County, Kentucky d: >November 29, 1862 in Scott County, Kentucky >. 2 Anderson Riddle b: 1814 >. 2 Lavinia Riddle b: 1822 >. 2 James Lewis Riddle b: April 1824 in Bourbon County, Kentucky d: 1905 >in Scott County, Kentucky >.... +Sarah Ann Bramblett m: February 03, 1848 in Owen County, Kentucky > >John Weiser (with Catherine Riddle Weiser) > > > > > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to contact the ListMom?! > E-mail Rebecca at; > rebecca@collector.org > > > > >

charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Do you know which county in Virginia, William in 1777 was born? I have a William Riddle born in Brunswick Co., Va. about the same time. Brother of Thomas, Henry and Roland, John, Reese, Hardy, Rebecca, Peggy and Polly. Vic -----Original Message----- From: John Weiser <weiserj@earthlink.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] John Lewis RIDDLE >Hi Susan, > >> Need to find parents of John Lewis Riddle b. May 5, 1804 in VA. He was >> married on August 26, 1822 in Owen County, KY to Martha Cammack, dau. of >Beverly Cammack. >> Susie Riddle Pollock, TN > >Thought I'd post a reply based on data from G. Divine and S. Coomer and 1850 >census record. Taken together I have it as follows (per Mr. Divine, William >had 6 other offspring by Hannah): >1 William Riddle b: 1777 in Virginia d: September 07, 1859 in Scott >County, Kentucky >. +Elizabeth McCamack b: in Virginia m: October 30, 1798 in Fauquier >County, Virginia d: 1806 in Scott County, KY >. 2 Mary A. Riddle b: 1799 in Scott County, Kentucky d: December 04, >1858 in Owen Co., Kentucky >.... +D. D. Caldwell >. 2 John Lewis Riddle, Sr. b: May 05, 1804 d: September 1884 in Owen >Co., Kentucky >.... +Martha T. Cammack b: June 22, 1808 m: August 26, 1822 in Owen Co., >Kentucky >*2nd Wife of William Riddle: >. +Hannah b: 1775 in Virginia m: 1806 in Scott County, Kentucky d: >November 29, 1862 in Scott County, Kentucky >. 2 Anderson Riddle b: 1814 >. 2 Lavinia Riddle b: 1822 >. 2 James Lewis Riddle b: April 1824 in Bourbon County, Kentucky d: 1905 >in Scott County, Kentucky >.... +Sarah Ann Bramblett m: February 03, 1848 in Owen County, Kentucky > >John Weiser (with Catherine Riddle Weiser) >

Hi Firewalks, I'd really be interested in dates on this family. My ggrandfather, Thomas William Riddle was born in either Jackson or Marshall Co., AL. in 1861. His death certificate (1928 Albertville, Marshall Co.) states father as Thomas and mother unknown. A Thomas Riddle married Rachel Lemons in 1860, Jackson Co., AL. Thomas W. is shown in census to be living with her in Marshall Co. AL, 1870 & 1880. (No male head of household either time.) When Thomas W. married Margaret E.C.E. Lynn a William Lemons was one of the bondsmen. An information would be appreciated.

HERE IS SOME RIDDLE NAMES OF MINE THEY FROM SC GA ALA THOMAS RIDDLE 48YRS SC SARAH RIDDLE 38 GA EMLINE A RIDDLE 13 GA THOMAS RIDDLE 6 GA CHARESLETT 1 GA

Hi Susan, > Need to find parents of John Lewis Riddle b. May 5, 1804 in VA. He was > married on August 26, 1822 in Owen County, KY to Martha Cammack, dau. of Beverly Cammack. > Susie Riddle Pollock, TN Thought I'd post a reply based on data from G. Divine and S. Coomer and 1850 census record. Taken together I have it as follows (per Mr. Divine, William had 6 other offspring by Hannah): 1 William Riddle b: 1777 in Virginia d: September 07, 1859 in Scott County, Kentucky . +Elizabeth McCamack b: in Virginia m: October 30, 1798 in Fauquier County, Virginia d: 1806 in Scott County, KY . 2 Mary A. Riddle b: 1799 in Scott County, Kentucky d: December 04, 1858 in Owen Co., Kentucky .... +D. D. Caldwell . 2 John Lewis Riddle, Sr. b: May 05, 1804 d: September 1884 in Owen Co., Kentucky .... +Martha T. Cammack b: June 22, 1808 m: August 26, 1822 in Owen Co., Kentucky *2nd Wife of William Riddle: . +Hannah b: 1775 in Virginia m: 1806 in Scott County, Kentucky d: November 29, 1862 in Scott County, Kentucky . 2 Anderson Riddle b: 1814 . 2 Lavinia Riddle b: 1822 . 2 James Lewis Riddle b: April 1824 in Bourbon County, Kentucky d: 1905 in Scott County, Kentucky .... +Sarah Ann Bramblett m: February 03, 1848 in Owen County, Kentucky John Weiser (with Catherine Riddle Weiser)

Bill, It definitely sounds like John S Riddle may have been the father of John Wister Riddle. Your John W. was born the same year and the location is the same. Since we have no information whatever on parents and siblings, it is hard to say for sure. I would really like to have the information you have and I can send you information on descendents of John Wister Riddle. Sometimes a comparison of family names helps. You can send as a GED or Report, whichever you prefer to my e-mail address, bwingo@aol.com Thank you very much, Betty

SURE SOUNDS PROMISING SINCE OUR JOHN W WAS BORN 1868 AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY NAMES OF HIS RELATIVES. WE COULDN'T BE SO LUCKY

I don't know if this is your John W Riddle, but if it is I can take you back a couple of generations. Descendants of John S RIDDLE 1. John S RIDDLE was born about 1841. He died about 1900. John married Mary Ann MARTIN. Mary was born 10 May 1844. She died 15 Sep 1909. They had the following children: 2 F i. Elizabeth Cornelia RIDDLE was born 21 Apr 1866. She died 9 Jun 1928. Elizabeth married P L FARROW. 3 M ii. John W RIDDLE was born 1868. 4 F iii. Effie A RIDDLE was born 1870. 5 F iv. Fannie RIDDLE was born 1872. 6 F v. Centilla RIDDLE was born 1876. 7 M vi. Homer RIDDLE was born 1879. All of these are upstate SC folks with Laurens county roots. Let me know what you think. Bill

Betty, Write to the Hill County College in Hillsboro, Texas. There is a lady that I believe may be able to help you. I do not know what her name is but think it is a Mrs. Cleo Davis. She is great at helping and good luck. Eva

The Stokes Co., NC WEB Page now resides at a new site. Go to http://www.jimcal.com and just follow the Riddle link. For those who would like to contact me, I now have a new e-mail address, jimh@abs.net or jimcal@bigfoot.com. Jim jimh@abs.net jimcal@bigfoot.com Genealogy - http://www.jimcal.com AHS Class of '62 - http://www.members.tripod.com/jimcalvin/

Hello List, John Wister Riddle was born 26 Jan 1868 in South Carolina, died in Hill Co., TX a5 Aug 1928, married Ada Matilda Hawkins 15 Feb 1890. Their oldest daughter, Lillie Estelle Riddle was born 1 Dec 1891 in Greenville Co., SC. Does anyone know about this family? Would appreciate hearing from you. Margaret Allen MAllen3729@aol.com Betty Wingo BWingo@aol.com

RIDDLE, Ann Bockwinkel -- age 64, a long time resident of Palo Alto, Menlo Park and Los Altos Hills, CA passed peacefully at Stanford Hospital Sept 23, 1999. Raised in River Forest IL. she was a 1957 Graduate of Wellesley College Good Morning!! This was submitted by NRedell@aol.com on Annesobits@onelist.com from the San Francisco Chronicle, Sept. 26, 1999. Marie searching... R-I-D-D-L-E L-E-W-I-S S-I-M-M-O-N-S M-A-L-L-O-R-Y

I'm looking for a Sarah Riddle Pyle could be Pyle Riddle. 22-Jul-1807 KY. Parents are Edward Gant Pyle and Rosanna Mary Mc Mahan.

In researching the Samuel Riddle family of Ralls County, Missouri, I was wondering if there is a history of that county available, perhaps one done by a local historical society? I have one of Shelby county but do need Ralls. Also am looking for a list of Ralls County cemeteries and occupants if available. Thanks for any help. Sue Larson larsonnl@aol.com

Thankyou I appreciate your help Debbie

Incase this helps: Opelika,Ala John T. Riddle Aug. 7 1832 Apr 22 1912 There are many names and I will send them out as soon as I can get my mothers papers together. She has info wrote on anything even a brown bag lol love granny

Need to find parents of John Lewis Riddle b. May 5, 1804 in VA. He was married on August 26, 1822 in Owen County, KY to Martha Cammack, dau. of Beverly Cammack. Susie Riddle Pollock TN

Found this entry : Registers of Marriages of Freedmen Volume 3, 1865-State of Mississippi Cato J.Hawkins married MARGARET RIDDLE October 24, 1865 Anyone know this Margaret RIDDLE ? Lynn S.