Tom: This is Mike Conners and I too have a Eli Riddle. My cousin Sue Larson and myself are the ones looking for Samuel Riddle or Riddell b. 1790 in Maryland. We have a Francis (Frank) H Riddle who was married to a Mary C in the 1900 census of we think Ralls Co. but it may not be. They have a Eli Riddle as a son and another one I could not make out but it looks like Ignatius? The census taker used alot of ink and he should have blotted it first, anyway they did have a Eli. Sue Larson's Francis (Frank) M Riddle was in Shelbyville Mo. but she said her mother mentioned someone in Iowa. We can't figure who this might be. I have a Edward James(Jimmy) Riddle who was in Macomb IL.and got into some trouble and headed for Burlington. This was my GGgrandfather Richard L Riddle's son by his second marriage to Sophie Bloodgood. Richard's first wife was Martha C Easton and she died between 1870 and 1880. All this is that we have a Eli and there is mention of someone going to visit relatives in Iowa. Mike Conners conners@jps.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> To: <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census > Carol, > >From what he told me, he had anywhere from 10-20 boxes (depends on the > size of the box) of papers that Austa had saved over the years. He > said he had more photos too. I was going to try and go see him on > Labor Day weekend, but couldn't make it and he said he was busy at > that time anyway, with his arts and crafts. I offered to send him > money, so he could ship the boxes to me, but he said he hadn't gone > through much of it and it would be this winter, before he and his wife > had time to go through all of it. He said he'd try to copy some of > the pictures and send those. Then when I came up, I could see the > originals. > Something just doesn't make sense to me. He's had all this stuff, for > 5 years now and hasn't gone through it? I have told my sister, who > lives in Joplin about all this and she may try to make contact with > him, since she's closer. Otherwise, I'll call later this month and > see what I can learn from him. > Will keep you posted. > Tom > -----Original Message----- > From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census > > > >Tom, > > > >Mr.. Neal that bought part of the Riddle estate may have more about > the Eli > >Riddle family - have you written him? Just a thought. > > > >Carol > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> > >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:24 PM > >Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census > > > > > >>I looked through the entire 1870 Marion county, Iowa Census and > failed > >>to find Eli and Augusta Coons Riddle and family listed. (Eli is the > >>youngest son of Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle) He wasn't listed in > >>the index, but thought he might have been there anyway. He wasn't > in > >>the 1870 Lucas Co. Census either. > >>His 5th child, Austa Caroline was born 9/22/1869 in Lucas Co. and > his > >>next child, Melinda Ellen was born 4/16/1872 in Marion Co., with the > >>last 2 children being born in Marion Co. 1875 and 1878. > >> > >>There should be some record (land, tax, etc.) that places him in > >>Marion Co., in the 1870's. The family moved to Barton Co., MO in > June > >>1880. > >> > >>Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >>Tom > >> > >> > >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >>---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > >> Want to contact the ListMom?! > >> E-mail Rebecca at; > >> rebecca@collector.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > > Have you posted your > > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query > yet?! > > What are ya waitin' for?! It's > time! > > > > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! > > >

Carol, >From what he told me, he had anywhere from 10-20 boxes (depends on the size of the box) of papers that Austa had saved over the years. He said he had more photos too. I was going to try and go see him on Labor Day weekend, but couldn't make it and he said he was busy at that time anyway, with his arts and crafts. I offered to send him money, so he could ship the boxes to me, but he said he hadn't gone through much of it and it would be this winter, before he and his wife had time to go through all of it. He said he'd try to copy some of the pictures and send those. Then when I came up, I could see the originals. Something just doesn't make sense to me. He's had all this stuff, for 5 years now and hasn't gone through it? I have told my sister, who lives in Joplin about all this and she may try to make contact with him, since she's closer. Otherwise, I'll call later this month and see what I can learn from him. Will keep you posted. Tom -----Original Message----- From: carol seal <carol@greencis.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census >Tom, > >Mr.. Neal that bought part of the Riddle estate may have more about the Eli >Riddle family - have you written him? Just a thought. > >Carol >-----Original Message----- >From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> >To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:24 PM >Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census > > >>I looked through the entire 1870 Marion county, Iowa Census and failed >>to find Eli and Augusta Coons Riddle and family listed. (Eli is the >>youngest son of Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle) He wasn't listed in >>the index, but thought he might have been there anyway. He wasn't in >>the 1870 Lucas Co. Census either. >>His 5th child, Austa Caroline was born 9/22/1869 in Lucas Co. and his >>next child, Melinda Ellen was born 4/16/1872 in Marion Co., with the >>last 2 children being born in Marion Co. 1875 and 1878. >> >>There should be some record (land, tax, etc.) that places him in >>Marion Co., in the 1870's. The family moved to Barton Co., MO in June >>1880. >> >>Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Tom >> >> >>==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >>---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- >> Want to contact the ListMom?! >> E-mail Rebecca at; >> rebecca@collector.org >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >-----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Have you posted your > RIDDLE, RYDALE, RUDDELL, RIDLEY, RIDLE, > RUDDLE, RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDEL, etc. Query yet?! > What are ya waitin' for?! It's time! >

Don't ask I have no infromation on any of them, just thought it might help some one....... This came in on another list I am on. Had a list of quite a few Riddles that served during WWII from Cumberland Co., KY. Josephine Hall ajh43@msn.com or ajh43@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 7:42 AM Subject: CUMBERLAND CO WWII SOLDIERS - R'S I have NO additional information. William Anderson RILEY, Tech Sgt James Walter REEDER (overseas), Oscar Benton RIGSBY, Frank Alexander RIDDLE, Harvey Paul RIDDLE (overseas), Hershell Clarence RILEY, Tom Edson RILEY, Edward Allen ROSE, Ewell RIDDLE, Elmore Junior ROWE, James Wilbur RADFORD, Newell Hayden RIDDLE (overseas), Lyle Long RADFORD, PFC Zola Earl ROWE, Sam Redus ROWE, Claud Earl RIDDLE, Otis C RIGSBY, Roy RAINS, Thomas R. RIDDLE, John WIlliam RAINEY, Arthur RADFORD, Staff Sgt Ewing RUSH, L H RUSH (Navy), Welby RIDDLE, William F RIDDLE, Richard RADFORD, Eddy RICHARDSON, James E REEDER Walter Douglas RILEY, Ilus Graham RIDDLE, Eweing Seph RIDDLE, Calvin Arthur RADFORD, James W RIDDLE, Eugene ROWE (Navy), Ralph H ROWE, Henry N RILEY, Thomas E RADFORD, Leo RIDDLE, Elware RELIFORD?, Leonard RILEY, William RILEY, Master Sgt Jesse C. RIDDLE (overseas), Hershell N RADFORD, Wix RUSH, Robert R RADFORD (Navy), Lewis RIDDLE (Navy), Thurman ROACH (Navy), James A ROSE (Navy), Wendell F RADFORD (Navy), Tom RUSH (black-Navy), George H ROACH (Navy), James C ROWE, Harley RIDDLE (overseas), Hershell RILEY, Frank RIDDLE (overseas), James W. RIDDLE (overseas), Leslie M RIDDLE (overseas), Earl B RILEY, Frank RADFROD, Charles RICHARDSON. to be continued next week with S's. Sandi Colonel Sandi Gorin 205 Clements,Glasgow, KY 42141 (270) 651-9114 or E-fax (707)222-1210 Member Glasgow-Barren County Chamber of Commerce Gorin Genealogical Publishing: http://members.delphi.com/gorin1/index.html TIPS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Tips KYBIOS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Bios ARCHIVES: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Tom, Mr.. Neal that bought part of the Riddle estate may have more about the Eli Riddle family - have you written him? Just a thought. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Thomas L. Harman <tlharman@nwol.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com <RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: [RIDDLE-L] Eli Riddle - 1870 Marion Co., IA Census >I looked through the entire 1870 Marion county, Iowa Census and failed >to find Eli and Augusta Coons Riddle and family listed. (Eli is the >youngest son of Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle) He wasn't listed in >the index, but thought he might have been there anyway. He wasn't in >the 1870 Lucas Co. Census either. >His 5th child, Austa Caroline was born 9/22/1869 in Lucas Co. and his >next child, Melinda Ellen was born 4/16/1872 in Marion Co., with the >last 2 children being born in Marion Co. 1875 and 1878. > >There should be some record (land, tax, etc.) that places him in >Marion Co., in the 1870's. The family moved to Barton Co., MO in June >1880. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Tom > > >==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== >---------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- > Want to contact the ListMom?! > E-mail Rebecca at; > rebecca@collector.org > > > > >

Hi Riddle's list (everyone)! In another of my family trees unrelated to my Riddle line (of which I am a descenant of Wm. Riddle - the Rev. war soldier). In another family tree, there is another Riddle (gentleman)!! Any ways, to cut to the chase... an ancestor of mines' second wife (or their relatives descendants) who were named Krebs married a William Riddle, most likely the same one as I mention about a month ago as listed on a "Northern Sympazthers List" that fled from Okla., to Ark., for safety... This William Riddle married Rebecca Krebs, Abt 1868, in Okla. They had one child named Delight Riddle b. 1869 in the Choctaw Nation; d. 1881. Well, maybe this may help someone sometime?! Delight, is burried in Skullyville Cem. I don't know if it is a marked headstone (grave) or not, some of them, there are now longer marked? There is American Indian in that line and French going back to a Johann Krebs born in 1670 in Neumagen, Moselle, Germany... Regards, Russ Merryman

I do not have a James Riddle born in 1750 but I do have a William Riddle who was born around that time in VA. I wonder if it was a brother to William? There are some James Riddles born later and yes...the difference in the name Riddle/Riddell is shown in some of our papers. It may have been different back at this time. I wish I knew? What a jigsaw puzzle. I love it though. Could I have a copy of his will? Could you send it over the internet to me via email? Thanks. I TRULY DO wish I could help you out some. Susie Riddle Pollock I bet it is part of our family. ---------- From: JONT44@aol.com To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RIDDLE-L] John Riddle of Owen County, KY Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:20 AM james riddell was born in 1750 i have his will he is my5 times gr grandfather his son william was married to joyce goodall william was born in orange co va and moved to kentucky where he left his family. i think these are accurate if not please set me straight. thanks carol jont44@aol.com ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List----------------- Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html

james riddell was born in 1750 i have his will he is my5 times gr grandfather his son william was married to joyce goodall william was born in orange co va and moved to kentucky where he left his family. i think these are accurate if not please set me straight. thanks carol jont44@aol.com

Looks like we both saw this note about the same time! It sure would be nice to "crack this" open. Life is busy -again-. The kids' activities have entered "full tilt", and we are once again in the taxi business. I've been so busy, that I don't feel like doing anything (once I get home). I check around to see if I can find any Riddle info, but no luck. I did have a few successes in other families this summer. I just keep bouncing around, that way I don't get discouraged. Have you tried the new version of PAF? I think that it has everything that FTW does, without the annual charges for "updates". My Brother-in-Law has even switched. Well, I might as well go. I can't seem to think tonight. Jerry KAYOMAXB@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/99 3:18:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > weiserj@earthlink.net writes: > > > Also, I had a date wrong in my earlier message, it should read: a James > > Riddell (b. 1750) had son, William Riddell born in Orange County, Virginia, > > who "presumably had a family and descendants" and died in Kentucky > > Any chance this William Riddell you refer to was born 19 March 1803? Just > hoping. > > Cathy > > Looking for parents & siblings of my William Riddle, b 19 March 1803 KY or VA > (per children's census); married Polly Parks 25 March 1830 in Monroe County, > IN (Bloomington area); died 13 Sept 1840 in Monroe Co, IN. > > Their children: William T (Thomas or Thompson) b 1831; Priscilla Caroline b > 1835; George Marion b 1837; Harrison H Riddle b 1839. > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List-------------- > We have new subscribers since you last posted your RIDDLE Query... > What if they hold the key to unlock YOUR research quandaries? > You'll never know unless you post again! > RIDDLE-L@RootsWeb.com

John, do you happen to know any of the siblings for John? At least two of us from this list are trying to find the parents for a William Riddle (probably born KY or VA). But, we continually hit that famous "brick wall". It sure seems like there could be some connections between the two, who knows. I hope that we can find a connection <somewhere>. His details follow: William Riddle (19Mar1803 to 13Sep1840) married: 25Mar1830 (Bloomington,,Monroe,IN) Poly Mirah Parks (29Aug1808 to 20Mar1902) children: William T. (15Sep1831 to 19Mar1892) Priscilla Caroline (05Oct1835 to 25Sep1890) George Marion (07Sep1837 to 01Aug1910) Harrison H. (18Feb1839 to 24Jun1934) Thanks, Jerry Russell and Susan Pollock wrote: > Is this my William Riddle (Riddell)????? > Oh...shoot I have to retype that whole thing??????????????????? Just > kidding. Gene must be a VERY SMART man or else he is very perfect! Ha! > He is probably a very nice individual. Just messing with our minds! > Take care. > Susie > > ---------- > From: John Weiser <weiserj@earthlink.net> > To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [RIDDLE-L] John Riddle of Owen County, KY > Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:16 PM > > It looks like Gene Divine has it right: John Riddle (of Owen County, KY, b. > 1804 per family bible) is just John Riddle, and not John Lewis Riddle. > > Also, I had a date wrong in my earlier message, it should read: a James > Riddell (b. 1750) had son, William Riddell born in Orange County, Virginia, > who "presumably had a family and descendants" and died in Kentucky. > > John Weiser > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ > Do you have an idea for this space? > E-mail the ListMom for more information! > rebecca@collector.org > > ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== > -----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List---------------- > Want to unsubscribe, and did not save your instructions? > Visit the RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List webpage to see how! > http://medgen.iupui.edu/~rebecca/roots/riddle.html

Is this my William Riddle (Riddell)????? Oh...shoot I have to retype that whole thing??????????????????? Just kidding. Gene must be a VERY SMART man or else he is very perfect! Ha! He is probably a very nice individual. Just messing with our minds! Take care. Susie ---------- From: John Weiser <weiserj@earthlink.net> To: RIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RIDDLE-L] John Riddle of Owen County, KY Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:16 PM It looks like Gene Divine has it right: John Riddle (of Owen County, KY, b. 1804 per family bible) is just John Riddle, and not John Lewis Riddle. Also, I had a date wrong in my earlier message, it should read: a James Riddell (b. 1750) had son, William Riddell born in Orange County, Virginia, who "presumably had a family and descendants" and died in Kentucky. John Weiser ==== RIDDLE Mailing List ==== ----------------RIDDLE Researchers Discussion List------------------ Do you have an idea for this space? E-mail the ListMom for more information! rebecca@collector.org

In a message dated 10/5/99 3:18:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, weiserj@earthlink.net writes: > Also, I had a date wrong in my earlier message, it should read: a James > Riddell (b. 1750) had son, William Riddell born in Orange County, Virginia, > who "presumably had a family and descendants" and died in Kentucky Any chance this William Riddell you refer to was born 19 March 1803? Just hoping. Cathy Looking for parents & siblings of my William Riddle, b 19 March 1803 KY or VA (per children's census); married Polly Parks 25 March 1830 in Monroe County, IN (Bloomington area); died 13 Sept 1840 in Monroe Co, IN. Their children: William T (Thomas or Thompson) b 1831; Priscilla Caroline b 1835; George Marion b 1837; Harrison H Riddle b 1839.

It looks like Gene Divine has it right: John Riddle (of Owen County, KY, b. 1804 per family bible) is just John Riddle, and not John Lewis Riddle. Also, I had a date wrong in my earlier message, it should read: a James Riddell (b. 1750) had son, William Riddell born in Orange County, Virginia, who "presumably had a family and descendants" and died in Kentucky. John Weiser

I looked through the entire 1870 Marion county, Iowa Census and failed to find Eli and Augusta Coons Riddle and family listed. (Eli is the youngest son of Stephen and Mary Elrod Riddle) He wasn't listed in the index, but thought he might have been there anyway. He wasn't in the 1870 Lucas Co. Census either. His 5th child, Austa Caroline was born 9/22/1869 in Lucas Co. and his next child, Melinda Ellen was born 4/16/1872 in Marion Co., with the last 2 children being born in Marion Co. 1875 and 1878. There should be some record (land, tax, etc.) that places him in Marion Co., in the 1870's. The family moved to Barton Co., MO in June 1880. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom

Hi Gene, Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to give me and others your detailed message. Let me answer some of your points here and let me pose another question. > Don't forget, I'm not sure of your John (Lewis) Riddle as I've never seen > him listed anywhere with the middle name LEWIS. Shawn Coomer includes "Lewis" as John's middle name. He writes: " I also have original pages from the family Bible that give birth, death & marriage info." I should be getting copies of those pages in the mail in the next couple of days, and I will forward those to you. I have looked at the 1850 census page for John Riddle of Owen County, KY, and I noticed that the ages (as listed there) between each of John's nine children and the next was exactly 2 years. I wondered whether this was real or the census taker's shortcut? [I myself worked as a census taker during the 1980 census, and I recall that guessing was allowed as a last resort.] The birth year that Shawn Coomer has for Lorenzo Dow Riddle corresponds precisely with what I had, based on a birth certificate for one of LDR's children (born in Gorman, TX, by the way). LDR had some 8 children, so we still have our work cut out for us. Regarding my "facts taken together" and William Riddle's family (of Scott County, KY), I should have done the following: 1. given separate attribution to the "facts", so that the reader might better weigh each "fact's" validity 2. qualified my reference to John as John Lewis (they might not be one and the same, after all), and 3. have stated that G. Divine knows of 6 other offspring by Hannah, besides the 3 I named (there could be more). My question is two-fold, and relates to William Riddle's line. a. Doesn't John Riddle having "Lewis" as a middle name support his being William's son, just as you derive from James LEWIS Riddle? b. Yesterday, I was reading in "The History of the Ancient Ryedales" by G. T. Ridlon, around p.377, about the Riddles of Orange County, VA, which county abuts Fauquier County. From memory, it suggests that many of the Riddles who derive from this branch have Lewis as part of their names. I did see, curiously, a James Riddell (b. 1850) whose son, William Riddell was born in Orange County, died in Kentucky and "presumably had a family and descendants". Is your (perhaps our) William Riddle mentioned in Ridlon's book? Regards, John (with Cathie Riddle Weiser)

To Debbie Foster, I'm sorry, I do not have anything on Louie Riddle. All my RIDDLE research is confined to New Jersey, Virginia and Kentucky. Gene Divine

Missouri Marriages to 1850 are avaliable free at this site for now. There are 31 Riddle marriages. Look in "Other Free Databases" Danny http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search.asp

Hi John, No, I don't mind whatever you choose to do. However, you do not have all the information I have and what's out there now is not complete. If you will send me your snail mail address, I'll give you what you are asking for. My records are from wills, marriage records, censuses and personal correspondence with living Riddle relatives and their family records. None is from the LDS which I find not too reliable unless they provide also the legal documents that support their assertions. I could send them anything and they would pass it on without verifying anything. Don't forget, I'm not sure of your John (Lewis) Riddle as I've never seen him listed anywhere with the middle name LEWIS. In William Riddel, Sr.s will he names all his children by both marriages. There is a John Riddle. In your post you named him John Lewis Riddle, Sr. b: May 05, 1804 and I don't believe I said that. I believe I named him John Riddle, b: 1802 and I did not have a date of death for him. Following where you state "(per Mr. Divine, William had 6 other offspring by Hannah):, I didn't say that either. I said "They had 9 children that I know of". Then I listed my ancestor, James Lewis Riddle and some information about him and his wife Sarah Ann Bramblett. I hereby disavow any agreement with the "taken together" listing. Per William Riddel Sr.'s will filed in the Scott County Court House in Georgetown, Kentucky, his wife and children were: " I give and bequeath to my wife Hannah Riddle"..."to my son John Riddle & daughter Polly Caldwell (children by a former wife), ...."my children by my present wife (to wit) William Riddle, Benjamin Riddle, Sally Thomas, Louisa Luttrall, Anderson Riddle, Merit Riddle, George Riddle, Lavina Riddle & James W. Lewis Riddle". These are the two children by his first wife, Flizabeth McCamack and the nine (9) children by his second wife, Hannah. I do not know her maiden name. According to the death notice for William Riddle, died September 07, 1859 in Scott County, KY, on file at the Kentucky historical Society in Frankfort, Kentucky, William Riddle was born in Fauquier County, Virginia and his occupation was a cooper. I have copies of marriage bonds in Fauquier County for three children of William and Elizabeth L. Riddle (the parents of William Riddle b. 1777). They were William m. Betsey (Elizabeth) McCamack (father: Henry McCamack), bond dated October 29, 1798; Betsey Riddle m. Reubin Corbin, bond dated January 26, 1801; and Katy Riddle m. Cornelius Anderson, bond dated September 6, 1790. I have a copy of the marriage bond December 24, 1807 for the marriage of William Riddel, Sr.(father of William Riddle b. 1777, second marriage) to Jemima Latham. (Please note the date of 1807)! Through census records and family records: John Riddle m. Martha Commack August 26, 1827, Owen County, KY. Mary A (Polly) Riddle m. D. D. Caldwell (date and place not verified). William Riddle b.1806 m. Nancy Coburn December 23, 1842. Benjamin Riddle b.1809 m. Acka ?. Anderson Riddle b.1814 m. Martha Jane Offutt. Merit Riddle b.March 26, 1818 m. Permelia M. Estes August 3, 1853. George Riddle b.1820 m. Susana Donovan. Lavina Riddle b.1822 m. John J. Maddox July 9, 1853. James W. Lewis Riddle b.1824 m. Sarah Ann Bramblett February 3, 1848, Owen County. Sally Riddle b.1834 m. ------ Thomas. Louisa Riddle b.1836 m. John Luttrell. To answer a question: Yes researchers do often withhold sharing their information for various reasons. (One good reason is to be sure their research information is provided by themselves and reflect accurately their work , whether their work is correct or incorrect). To answer a question: William, b.1777 was born in Fauquier County, Virginia. My William Riddel is NOT the one born in Brunswick County, Virginia. The August 13, 1850 Owen County, Kentucky census on line 22 lists a Lorenzo D. Riddle as a 7 year old son of John Riddle ( whom this record says he was born in KY). It shows John as Age 48. It also lists: Martha, age 47; William, age 23; Louisa(?) J, age 21; Garrison(?) R., age 19; John S(?), age 17; Thomas H., age 15; Martha, age 13; Catharine, age 11; James G., age 9; and Larenzo D., age 7. I do have Riddle / Bramblett relationships which I'll save for another time. Certainly I'll be happy to provide you with the documentation I have accumulated so long as it pertains to the ancestors of John Riddle the son of William Riddle and Elizabeth McCamack. You have never told how you learned the name of John LEWIS Riddle and the date and place of birth. Will you share this with me. My research in most all cases was obtained by myself at the site of the source available. Lots of travel and lots of time. I could not download the attachments. Not enough memory left. This is getting long and I'm tiring out. (I'm not young, you know). Let me hear from you. Gene Divine e-mail at aedreddivine@hcnews.com 713 Aqua Vista Drive Granbury, TX 76049-1608 (817) 279-6347

Hi do you have anything on a Louie Riddle around 1917 he died in Alabama and was married to Gladys Riddle it was her 2nd marriage they had several kids Larry, Howard, Roy . Lena, Jr. If you have anything on them please let me know Thank you Debbie Foster

Thanks Gaylon for that. I had heard bits and pieces of that, but it was good to get the whole story. It also solves a bit of question I had in mind about Cuff's name. A couple of more questions come to mind. Any idea when Cuff's parents moved to the Bottom? Where is the Bottom in today's terms? I wonder when Kendall and Kizzie Lewis moved to the Bottom? It was my understanding that Robert Cochran came to present day Titus County in 1835 or 1836. Anyone know where I can verify this? He was supposedly heading for Stephen F. Austin's encampment and only made it as far as NE Texas. Did his family come with him? Charles Smith charles@pandr.demon.co.uk

Bill, You said you could go back 2 generations. Can you tell me who the parents of John S. Riddle were and if he had any brothers and sisters? Also, I had heard that the family came from Ireland or Scottland. Do you have any information on this? I am waiting for the death certificate to arrive for John Wister Riddle but Texas is very slow about sending these out. I'm looking forward to hearing from you again. Betty