Bob, you mention your Richardsons are from Cherokee Co., Ala. Do you know anything about the following family? thanks, Larealia Cherokee Co., Ala 1860 census 400-450 John W. Richardson 41 m farmer SC Sarah 28 f SC (she was marked age 27 in 1850 census Elias M 20 m GA John T. m GA Isaac F 14 m GA Cinthia E 12 m GA William H 10m GA George D 8 m GA Bayles E 5m Ala Jesse M 3m Ala This family was in DeKalb Co., Ga 1850 census . On Elias’ death certificate mother is named as Sarah Harbin and father John Wesley Richardson. Elias joined the 19th Ala Infantry, and after the war he is found in Randolph Co. Ala living with the family of Robert and Jane (Richardson) McCarley who were also in Cherokee Co in 1860. They do not appear to be close relatives. Jane was daughter of Thomas and Delilah (Robbins) Richardson. I have never been able to locate John W. nor any of the family except Elias after the Civil War. I have notes from some of Elias’ children that he had brothers named Frank, Bill, and Bayles or Balus. I would appreciate the slightest clue ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson Counties in Alabama. Bob William Johnson wrote: > > Bob: > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > > William G. Johnson > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Margrett > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > Bob > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > that might be. > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > connect my Richardson's. > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > could use any info. > > > Thanks for any data > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > begin:vcard > > n:Binstein;Bob > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > adr:;;;;;; > > version:2.1 > > email;internet:[email protected] > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > fn:Bob Binstein > > end:vcard > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="just-bob.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bob Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="just-bob.vcf" begin:vcard n:Binstein;Bob tel;home:818 / 341-7229 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 fn:Bob Binstein end:vcard --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7-- ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== To use the Richardson Query Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-LGet more from the Web. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Ckj9eK/Woj8HOmO/aDyG8w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello Larealia, nice to here from you, I'm sorry it looks like there is no relationship. A little later today I will check the 1880 census for you and see if I can offer you some information. The thing i find of interest in your email are the surnames. My wife's lines are Robbins, to Hancock, to Richardson, To Branham, to Howard. None of the Richardsons you mention show up. Your Robbins also does not show up. The only Baylis we have is a Howard. I will send you what i find later today. Check your email tomorrow as we have the grand kids this afternoon Good Luck bob L L Camp wrote: > > Bob, you mention your Richardsons are from Cherokee Co., Ala. Do you know anything about the following family? thanks, Larealia > > > Cherokee Co., Ala 1860 census > > 400-450 > > John W. Richardson 41 m farmer SC > Sarah 28 f SC (she was marked age 27 in 1850 census > Elias M 20 m GA > John T. m GA > Isaac F 14 m GA > Cinthia E 12 m GA > William H 10m GA > George D 8 m GA > Bayles E 5m Ala > Jesse M 3m Ala > > This family was in DeKalb Co., Ga 1850 census . On Elias’ death certificate mother is named as Sarah Harbin and father John Wesley Richardson. Elias joined the 19th Ala Infantry, and after the war he is found in Randolph Co. Ala living with the family of Robert and Jane (Richardson) McCarley who were also in Cherokee Co in 1860. They do not appear to be close relatives. Jane was daughter of Thomas and Delilah (Robbins) Richardson. I have never been able to locate John W. nor any of the family except Elias after the Civil War. I have notes from some of Elias’ children that he had brothers named Frank, Bill, and Bayles or Balus. I would appreciate the slightest clue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you > to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson > line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson > Counties in Alabama. > > Bob > > William Johnson wrote: > > > > Bob: > > > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > > appreciate hearing from you. > > > > Thanks, > > > > William G. Johnson > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > Margrett > > > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > > that might be. > > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > > connect my Richardson's. > > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > > could use any info. > > > > Thanks for any data > > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > > To review Archived messages: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > > > begin:vcard > > > n:Binstein;Bob > > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > > adr:;;;;;; > > > version:2.1 > > > email;internet:[email protected] > > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > > fn:Bob Binstein > > > end:vcard > > > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="just-bob.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Bob > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Binstein;Bob > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[email protected] > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > fn:Bob Binstein > end:vcard > > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7-- > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-LGet more from the Web. 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