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    1. Re: [RICHARDSON] Help with deed abstracts
    2. Good Morning, I would like to see the actual document(s) below and to see the preceding documents that led up to it, but this appears to be a foreclosure on a mortgage. Salsbury, on some prior date, sold the property to Morgan and John Richardson. Salsbury agreed to finance the purchase price. (We call it "Seller Financing" today) For whatever reason, Salsbury had to foreclose on the mortgage. In some states, the Sheriff actually stands at a predetermined place on the courthouse steps and publicly auctions off the property to the highest bidder. Your first document, Deed Book D, page 7-8 is the result of the foreclosure and public auction where John Vineard was the highest bidder. Vineard becomes the owner of the property through a Sheriff's deed rather than a General Warranty Deed because of the foreclosure. A Sheriff's deed almost always indicates a foreclosure of a mortgage, regardless of who was the note holder. Same "kind" of thing with a Treasurer's Deed. A Treasurer's deed would indicate the owner fell behind on taxes and the County Treasurer granted a deed to a new owner for the back taxes. Your second deed shown below, indicates John Vineard kept the property for approximately 10 yeas (if the dates are correct) then sold it to Nathanial Brown. The mention of Salsbury and Richardson in that deed gives the history of how Vineard acquired the property. Sheriff's deeds have no warranties or guarantees in the chain of title or "abstract of title" as it is still called today. Even today, supporting language is sometimes written in documents to give the courthouse a method of identification on a legal description or piece of property. Don't hesitate to ask more questions - this can be really confusing unless you work with it every day. I was a title abstractor and examiner with a title insurance company for a long, long time. It pleases me to actually be able to make a contribution to this wonderful list. Even better? I think Morgan and John Richardson are part of my Richardson line from Oglethorpe County. We may be distantly related cousins somewhere along this line. Amy In a message dated 9/23/2005 10:17:23 AM Central Standard Time, bert@pittmanfamily.org writes: I am unfamiliar with this record type. Could someone help explain what this information means? How are these two abstracts related? These abstracts ares from the Talbot Co Ga Deed book and even though I have no information about my ancestor, Morgan Richardson, ever being in Talbot Co, I do know that he was married in Oglethorpe Co, 31 May 1827 and his son, Morgan Jackson Richardson was born in Coweta Co in 1834 ----------------- Deed book D pg 7-8 Fi Fa issued Justice Court Oglethorpe 18 Aug 1827 in favour of Wm Salsbury vs Morgan Richardson and John Richardson Sheriff Green L. Stillwell (Talbot) Sale 5 April 1836 John Vineard highest bidder $42 15th Dis LL 151 Wit: Joseph Buchhannon, John B. Davis, C.R. Wynn, JP Recorded 16 May 1836 - Frederick A. Bailey, Ck -------------------------------------------------------------- Talbot County Deed Bk D pg 337 25 Aug 1837 Coweta County John Vineyard, Coweta Co to Nathan'l Brown, Marion County $10 15th Dis LL151 Drawn by John Richardson, Oglethorpe Co Sold by order of Sheriff Talbot Co on fi fa in favor of William Salisbury vs Morgan Richardson and John Richardson in April 1836. John Vineyard highest bidder Wit: John D. Griffin, Henry Keller, JP Recorded 28 Aug 1837 - C.D. Crittenden, DCSC

    09/23/2005 06:40:13
    1. Re: [RICHARDSON] Help with deed abstracts
    2. Bert Pittman
    3. Wow thanks! The second abstract includes the phrase "Drawn by John Richardson, Oglethorpe Co", I had thought that might mean the John Richardson was a fortunate drawer in one of the land lotteries but I would guess it simply means he was the previous owner? Also can you tell us what the "FI Fa" abbreviation means? Also notice John Vineard is in Oglethorpe Co when he makes the purchase and in Coweta when he makes the sale. We know the Richardson are in Olgethorpe in 1827 and Coweta in 1834. Since Coweta is a fair distance from Oglethorpe I wouldn't be suprised to someday find out that John Vineard is related to the Richardsons. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: AmyWM@aol.com To: bert@pittmanfamily.org ; RICHARDSON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] Help with deed abstracts Good Morning, I would like to see the actual document(s) below and to see the preceding documents that led up to it, but this appears to be a foreclosure on a mortgage. Salsbury, on some prior date, sold the property to Morgan and John Richardson. Salsbury agreed to finance the purchase price. (We call it "Seller Financing" today) For whatever reason, Salsbury had to foreclose on the mortgage. In some states, the Sheriff actually stands at a predetermined place on the courthouse steps and publicly auctions off the property to the highest bidder. Your first document, Deed Book D, page 7-8 is the result of the foreclosure and public auction where John Vineard was the highest bidder. Vineard becomes the owner of the property through a Sheriff's deed rather than a General Warranty Deed because of the foreclosure. A Sheriff's deed almost always indicates a foreclosure of a mortgage, regardless of who was the note holder. Same "kind" of thing with a Treasurer's Deed. A Treasurer's deed would indicate the owner fell behind on taxes and the County Treasurer granted a deed to a new owner for the back taxes. Your second deed shown below, indicates John Vineard kept the property for approximately 10 yeas (if the dates are correct) then sold it to Nathanial Brown. The mention of Salsbury and Richardson in that deed gives the history of how Vineard acquired the property. Sheriff's deeds have no warranties or guarantees in the chain of title or "abstract of title" as it is still called today. Even today, supporting language is sometimes written in documents to give the courthouse a method of identification on a legal description or piece of property. Don't hesitate to ask more questions - this can be really confusing unless you work with it every day. I was a title abstractor and examiner with a title insurance company for a long, long time. It pleases me to actually be able to make a contribution to this wonderful list. Even better? I think Morgan and John Richardson are part of my Richardson line from Oglethorpe County. We may be distantly related cousins somewhere along this line. Amy In a message dated 9/23/2005 10:17:23 AM Central Standard Time, bert@pittmanfamily.org writes: I am unfamiliar with this record type. Could someone help explain what this information means? How are these two abstracts related? These abstracts ares from the Talbot Co Ga Deed book and even though I have no information about my ancestor, Morgan Richardson, ever being in Talbot Co, I do know that he was married in Oglethorpe Co, 31 May 1827 and his son, Morgan Jackson Richardson was born in Coweta Co in 1834 ----------------- Deed book D pg 7-8 Fi Fa issued Justice Court Oglethorpe 18 Aug 1827 in favour of Wm Salsbury vs Morgan Richardson and John Richardson Sheriff Green L. Stillwell (Talbot) Sale 5 April 1836 John Vineard highest bidder $42 15th Dis LL 151 Wit: Joseph Buchhannon, John B. Davis, C.R. Wynn, JP Recorded 16 May 1836 - Frederick A. Bailey, Ck -------------------------------------------------------------- Talbot County Deed Bk D pg 337 25 Aug 1837 Coweta County John Vineyard, Coweta Co to Nathan'l Brown, Marion County $10 15th Dis LL151 Drawn by John Richardson, Oglethorpe Co Sold by order of Sheriff Talbot Co on fi fa in favor of William Salisbury vs Morgan Richardson and John Richardson in April 1836. John Vineyard highest bidder Wit: John D. Griffin, Henry Keller, JP Recorded 28 Aug 1837 - C.D. Crittenden, DCSC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 9/22/2005

    09/23/2005 06:49:03