Sandy: Noticed you have some connection with Richardson line. I am searching for Richardsons who moved to southern Illinois in the mid-1800's. Any data that you could share on William Richardson, Clement Richardson, James Lewis Richardson. Thanks for your help. William G. Johnson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] Black Dutch > Nora ,Priscilla > My father was a Phelps his sister married a Richardson who was a distant > cousin give me more information maybe we can make a connection both from > Kentucky > Hope to hear from you > Sandy > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L >

Nora We might have a connection. Larkin Phelps was my 3rd great grandfather DOB 1773 in Caswell County, North Carolina. He had eight siblings,William,Mary,Thomas,Rueben,Lucy,Ambrose,Obediah and Betty. This could be your William? I can take my Phelps line to 1650 England. Hope to hear from you. Sandy Smith Eustis, Florida

To NBACTON: Can you tell me which of your Richardsons went to LA? I am trying to trace my line - Henry Dickenson Richardson>Henry Hobson Richardson. Henry Hobson Richardson went from St. James Parish in LA to MA, NY, and then died in MA. He was born 1838, died 1886 and was a famous architect in the USA. I am trying to link him to Barnett and Aaron Richardson of OH. Thanks. Jan [email protected]

Hello Sandy, You wouldn't by any chance have a Samuel Richardson in your files born around 1806 in GA. his parents (names unknown) born in NC. Margrett ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 05:45 PM Subject: [RICHARDSON] Re: WILLIAM PHELPS > Nora We might have a connection. > Larkin Phelps was my 3rd great grandfather DOB 1773 in Caswell County, North > Carolina. He had eight > siblings,William,Mary,Thomas,Rueben,Lucy,Ambrose,Obediah and Betty. This > could be your William? I can take my Phelps line to 1650 England. > Hope to hear from you. > Sandy Smith > Eustis, Florida > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > >

Sandy, I really don't think that my Phelps line went to KY. But here is the information I have on the Phelps and Richardson lines of mine. I can only go back to c. 1773 and William Phelps. He was b. in SC or NC or ? but not sure. He was married in SC to Sophia Lee, dau. of Wm. Lee. They moved to GA between 1810-14 and settled in Pulaski Co. GA. They remained there until their deaths. Children: Arthur b. 1808 SC, William, James, Henry (twin to James, d. in infancy), Sheppard Needham, Elijah, Caroline, Elizabeth, Polly. I do not know who was b. first or last. My line is Arthur and that is the only one that I am sure of a birth date. Arthur migrated to Winn Parish, LA and died their in 1876. William Elijah, his son, remained in GA when they moved to LA in 1859. He was in the Civil War. He married Mary Jane Crosby and died in Mitchell Co. GA. His son, King David, was my g-grandfather. Richardson: John Richardson was b. sometime between 1780-90 according to the Marion Co. GA census of 1830. Probably in SC. He married Elizabeth Catherine ? b. SC c. 1780-90. We are not sure of the date of birth of Elizabeth because every census records a different age. The 1880 records her birth c. 1791. However, the 1830 census says between 1770-80. She was born in SC and her mother was Scots and her father was German. I cannot find a surname for her. John Richardson moved to Marion Co. GA before 1830 as he was named on the Marion Co. GA 1830 census. He died sometime after 1836 and before 1850. He is listed on the 1830 census as having 2 females between 10-15. On the 1850 census of Marion Co. GA, only the following 3 was listed. Mary b. 1831 GA, Mahala b. 1833 GA, and George W. b. c. 1836 GA. Mahala is my line. She married James Clark of Marion Co. GA as his second wife sometime after 1864, James was b. in SC c. 1805 or 1809. Parents unkn. Mahala and James had 3 children: James who died at at 21 of fever, Susan who married late in life and had no children, and Ely, my great-grandfather. Ely moved from Marion Co. GA to Mitchell Co. GA c. 1890. He brought his mother and sister with him. Ely married Ella Mae Griner dau. of Emanuel and Mary Eliz. McLeod Griner of Mitchell Co. GA. Hope this helps but doubt it. I am looking for John E. Hicks and his parents. John was b. 1825 KY and moved to FL. He died there in 1878. Children: Parthenia D. Hicks b. 1862 FL and Mattie b. 1864 FL. James A. Acton b. c. 1800-10 KY. Parents unkn. Married Mary Ann Martha Crockett, dau. of William Crockett of Bridgeport, KY. Her grandfather was Anthony Crockett who was sargent at arms for the first KY legislature and a Rev. War Soldier. Bridgeport is located just west of the capital of KY. If you come across these two in some of your adventures in the research rooms, let me know. I am at a brick wall! Believe the Hicks orginally came from VA and the Acton orginally was from MD. Talk later. Nora Searching for: PHELPS, WEST, CLARK, LEE (two lines), RICHARDSON, GRINER (GREINER), BRUNSON, MCLEOD, GREGORY, PALMER, HICKS, BROWN, CHAPPELL, SCOTT, ACTON, CROCKETT and more. All came to GEORGIA from NY, CT, VA, KY, NC, SC. Most stayed, but some went on to: FL, LA, TX.

Nora ,Priscilla My father was a Phelps his sister married a Richardson who was a distant cousin give me more information maybe we can make a connection both from Kentucky Hope to hear from you Sandy

My Georgia Richardsons were also from the Douglas, Campbell areas as were my Camps. My Richardsons were John Landras Richardson, father of Matthew Richardson who died during the Civil War. My ggrandfather was John Thomas Camp married to Martha Jane Duke. Any connections? I thought this might be appropriate: People are aften unreasonable, illogical and self centered, forgive them anyway If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives, be kind anyway If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies, succeed anyway What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight build anyway If you find serenity and happiness they may be jealous be happy anyway The good you do today people will often forget tomorrow do good anyway Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough, give the world the best you've got anyway You see in the final analysis it is between you and God if was never between you and them anyway Mother Teresa GOD BLESS!!! Carole ********************************************************************** > List info and other L'Engle goodies: http://welcome.to/bonastra

Nora, I noticed the names Richardson and Hicks among your list. I am descended from Israel Richardson b 1791 who married Sarah (Sallie) Hicks b ca 1792. They married on May 30, 1810 in Ky. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, November 11, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: [RICHARDSON] Black Dutch >This subject came up a few years ago and went on for weeks. Very interesting >and very informative. This is the first time that I have read about a >Melungeon connection. The information started out with the term Black Irish >and moved on to Black Dutch. Most agreed at that time that the information >they read concerned the complexion of the person. Irish: Instead of the >usual red or blond hair and blue eyes, the Black Irish were dark haired and >had a olive complexion. The same with the Black Dutch. They were dark >haired and of olive complexion. There was no racial meaning but one of >appearance in coloring of hair, eyes, and skin. Dark hair and complexions >were not the general appearance of these people evidently. > >This is not my opinion but just passing on what I learned a couple of years >ago! > >I am looking for John Richardson. B. in the late 1700s in SC or NC and moved >to Marion Co. GA by 1830 where he appeared on the GA Marion Co. census. He >was married to Elizabeth Catherine who was b. in SC c. 1791. They had more >than the three children mentioned below: >Mary b. 1831 GA >Mahala b. 1833 GA >George W. b. c. 1836 > >Any kin out there? > >Nora > >Searching for: >PHELPS, WEST, CLARK, LEE (two lines), RICHARDSON, GRINER (GREINER), BRUNSON, >MCLEOD, GREGORY, PALMER, HICKS, BROWN, CHAPPELL, SCOTT, ACTON, CROCKETT and >more. All came to GEORGIA from NY, CT, VA, KY, NC, SC. Most stayed, but >some went on to: FL, LA, TX. > > >==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== >To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson >To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > >

This subject came up a few years ago and went on for weeks. Very interesting and very informative. This is the first time that I have read about a Melungeon connection. The information started out with the term Black Irish and moved on to Black Dutch. Most agreed at that time that the information they read concerned the complexion of the person. Irish: Instead of the usual red or blond hair and blue eyes, the Black Irish were dark haired and had a olive complexion. The same with the Black Dutch. They were dark haired and of olive complexion. There was no racial meaning but one of appearance in coloring of hair, eyes, and skin. Dark hair and complexions were not the general appearance of these people evidently. This is not my opinion but just passing on what I learned a couple of years ago! I am looking for John Richardson. B. in the late 1700s in SC or NC and moved to Marion Co. GA by 1830 where he appeared on the GA Marion Co. census. He was married to Elizabeth Catherine who was b. in SC c. 1791. They had more than the three children mentioned below: Mary b. 1831 GA Mahala b. 1833 GA George W. b. c. 1836 Any kin out there? Nora Searching for: PHELPS, WEST, CLARK, LEE (two lines), RICHARDSON, GRINER (GREINER), BRUNSON, MCLEOD, GREGORY, PALMER, HICKS, BROWN, CHAPPELL, SCOTT, ACTON, CROCKETT and more. All came to GEORGIA from NY, CT, VA, KY, NC, SC. Most stayed, but some went on to: FL, LA, TX.

Bob, you mention your Richardsons are from Cherokee Co., Ala. Do you know anything about the following family? thanks, Larealia Cherokee Co., Ala 1860 census 400-450 John W. Richardson 41 m farmer SC Sarah 28 f SC (she was marked age 27 in 1850 census Elias M 20 m GA John T. m GA Isaac F 14 m GA Cinthia E 12 m GA William H 10m GA George D 8 m GA Bayles E 5m Ala Jesse M 3m Ala This family was in DeKalb Co., Ga 1850 census . On Elias’ death certificate mother is named as Sarah Harbin and father John Wesley Richardson. Elias joined the 19th Ala Infantry, and after the war he is found in Randolph Co. Ala living with the family of Robert and Jane (Richardson) McCarley who were also in Cherokee Co in 1860. They do not appear to be close relatives. Jane was daughter of Thomas and Delilah (Robbins) Richardson. I have never been able to locate John W. nor any of the family except Elias after the Civil War. I have notes from some of Elias’ children that he had brothers named Frank, Bill, and Bayles or Balus. I would appreciate the slightest clue ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson Counties in Alabama. Bob William Johnson wrote: > > Bob: > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > > William G. Johnson > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Margrett > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > Bob > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > that might be. > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > connect my Richardson's. > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > could use any info. > > > Thanks for any data > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > begin:vcard > > n:Binstein;Bob > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > adr:;;;;;; > > version:2.1 > > email;internet:[email protected] > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > fn:Bob Binstein > > end:vcard > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="just-bob.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bob Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="just-bob.vcf" begin:vcard n:Binstein;Bob tel;home:818 / 341-7229 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 fn:Bob Binstein end:vcard --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7-- ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== To use the Richardson Query Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-LGet more from the Web. 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Bob: Thanks for your offer but my line came from Ohio. Appreciate your willingness to help. Peace, William G. Johnson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you > to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson > line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson > Counties in Alabama. > > Bob > > William Johnson wrote: > > > > Bob: > > > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > > appreciate hearing from you. > > > > Thanks, > > > > William G. Johnson > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > Margrett > > > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > > that might be. > > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > > connect my Richardson's. > > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > > could use any info. > > > > Thanks for any data > > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > > To review Archived messages: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > > > begin:vcard > > > n:Binstein;Bob > > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > > adr:;;;;;; > > > version:2.1 > > > email;internet:[email protected] > > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > > fn:Bob Binstein > > > end:vcard > > > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="just-bob.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Bob > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Binstein;Bob > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[email protected] > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > fn:Bob Binstein > end:vcard > > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7-- > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Ckj9eK/Woj8HOmO/aDyG8w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Hello Larealia, nice to here from you, I'm sorry it looks like there is no relationship. A little later today I will check the 1880 census for you and see if I can offer you some information. The thing i find of interest in your email are the surnames. My wife's lines are Robbins, to Hancock, to Richardson, To Branham, to Howard. None of the Richardsons you mention show up. Your Robbins also does not show up. The only Baylis we have is a Howard. I will send you what i find later today. Check your email tomorrow as we have the grand kids this afternoon Good Luck bob L L Camp wrote: > > Bob, you mention your Richardsons are from Cherokee Co., Ala. Do you know anything about the following family? thanks, Larealia > > > Cherokee Co., Ala 1860 census > > 400-450 > > John W. Richardson 41 m farmer SC > Sarah 28 f SC (she was marked age 27 in 1850 census > Elias M 20 m GA > John T. m GA > Isaac F 14 m GA > Cinthia E 12 m GA > William H 10m GA > George D 8 m GA > Bayles E 5m Ala > Jesse M 3m Ala > > This family was in DeKalb Co., Ga 1850 census . On Elias’ death certificate mother is named as Sarah Harbin and father John Wesley Richardson. Elias joined the 19th Ala Infantry, and after the war he is found in Randolph Co. Ala living with the family of Robert and Jane (Richardson) McCarley who were also in Cherokee Co in 1860. They do not appear to be close relatives. Jane was daughter of Thomas and Delilah (Robbins) Richardson. I have never been able to locate John W. nor any of the family except Elias after the Civil War. I have notes from some of Elias’ children that he had brothers named Frank, Bill, and Bayles or Balus. I would appreciate the slightest clue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you > to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson > line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson > Counties in Alabama. > > Bob > > William Johnson wrote: > > > > Bob: > > > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > > appreciate hearing from you. > > > > Thanks, > > > > William G. Johnson > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > Margrett > > > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > > that might be. > > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > > connect my Richardson's. > > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > > could use any info. > > > > Thanks for any data > > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > > To review Archived messages: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > > > begin:vcard > > > n:Binstein;Bob > > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > > adr:;;;;;; > > > version:2.1 > > > email;internet:[email protected] > > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > > fn:Bob Binstein > > > end:vcard > > > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="just-bob.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Bob > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Binstein;Bob > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[email protected] > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > fn:Bob Binstein > end:vcard > > --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7-- > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-LGet more from the Web. 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blue blood means u had some connection (heritage) with one of the royal families of england...many genealogy lines...show connection..but it is hard to prove......annie turner richardson

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William, I have the 1880 census and can look up for you, but I need you to tell me any/all of these people are from this period. Our Richardson line is from the area of Blount, Cherokee, St.Clair and Jefferson Counties in Alabama. Bob William Johnson wrote: > > Bob: > > I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, > William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in > White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would > appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks, > > William G. Johnson > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Margrett > > > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > > term in most of Virginia. > > > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > > full blooded Cherokee. > > > > Hope this helped. > > > > Bob > > > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what > that might be. > > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is > very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never > connect my Richardson's. > > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - > 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a > son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I > could use any info. > > > Thanks for any data > > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > > To review Archived messages: > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > > name="just-bob.vcf" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Content-Description: Card for Bob > > Content-Disposition: attachment; > > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > > > begin:vcard > > n:Binstein;Bob > > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > adr:;;;;;; > > version:2.1 > > email;internet:[email protected] > > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > > fn:Bob Binstein > > end:vcard > > > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="just-bob.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bob Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="just-bob.vcf" begin:vcard n:Binstein;Bob tel;home:818 / 341-7229 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 fn:Bob Binstein end:vcard --------------33F3DB5C5CC1AA8B846D42F7--

Bob: I am searching for data on the Richardson family: William Richardson, William Clement Richardson, and James Lewis Richardson. They settled in White County, IL., around Enfield. If you have any data on them I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks, William G. Johnson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Margrett > > Black Dutch was also used by those who were of mixed Indian Blood. From > about the time of Andrew Jackson till about the civil war the census > listed people as either Negro or White. If you were Mixed you could not > own land in most of the southern states during this period. One rule was > if your skin was the shade of a paper bag, you considered non white. > Hence many chose the term black Dutch. This originally referred to the > Spanish who had migrated to Northern Europe. Many of their offspring had > Black Hair and Blue Eyes. (Black Dutch) Later this same standard was > adapted by some of the Irish, who saw "No Irish need apply". > In Virginia during the same period marriages between Indian and Whites > that produced an offspring who was then referred to MIDDLEN. This term > was used because being poor their main meal most of the time consisted > of the fatty piece of pork that others would not eat or purchase. This > was eaten between two slices of bread. Middlen was a very derogatory > term in most of Virginia. > > In losing my wife who is the Richardson in our family was always told as > a child that she was a mixture of Irish, English, German and Black > Dutch. We have no been able to confirm that the Black Dutch was > Cherokee. Bother Maternal and Fraternal Great Great Grandmothers where > full blooded Cherokee. > > Hope this helped. > > Bob > > margrett mccorkle wrote: > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I couldn't figure out what that might be. > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is very interesting and many people descend from these people, I could never connect my Richardson's. > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. but know no names. I am trying to find at this time Richardson in NC. 1775 - 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family with a son named Samuel and a son named William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I could use any info. > > Thanks for any data > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > > To use the Richardson Query Board: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > > To review Archived messages: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="just-bob.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Bob > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="just-bob.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:Binstein;Bob > tel;home:818 / 341-7229 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:[email protected] > x-mozilla-cpt:;5952 > fn:Bob Binstein > end:vcard > > --------------4B0D2344EB36B5DE084A2F75-- > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L >

Millicent, try the book, Richardsons of Delaware. They lived in and around Wilmington, Delaware.The Author of the book is Richard Richardson. They have a copy of the book in Washington, D C at the Daughters of the American Revolution Library, and I also seen one in Wilmington, Del. Historical Society. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RICHARDSON] William RICHARDSON & Rebecca BOWER Hello, I am new to this list and am interested in the following family: 1- William RICHARDSON b. 3 (30) Nov 1793, d. 24 Jan 1866 + Rebecca BOWER b. 5 Nov 1794, d. 11 Aug 1879 i. Eliza Ann RICHARDSON, b. 20 Jul 1823, d. 21 Apr 1901 m. 1848 + Thomas WEBSTER, JR., b. 19 Mar 1818, d. 30 Dec 1894 I don't know where the first couple were born or died. The second couple lived in Philadelphia in 1850 & 1860. If anyone has further info I would appreciate hearing from you. Many thanks, Millicent [email protected] ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== To use the Richardson Query Board: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson To review Archived messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L

Royalty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Dennis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > o k, this is my two cents worth, my RICHARDSON's were from England, i grew up with my mother insisting we had 'blue blood' but she never explained, either because it was never explained to her or because she was to busy to explain it, or what. Like most people, my research into genealogy began after my mother's death. Does any one know what BLUE BLOOD means? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lawrence, Heather > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 7:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > Here is my two cents worth: > My grandmother used to tell me that I was black Dutch-she told me that her > mother always said all black Dutch is-is that you have different heritages > or whatever in you-like I am---German, Indian, English.. > I do not know if that is true or if my great grandmother just told my > grandmother that while she was growing up to passify her. > Maybe we will never know....Our ancestors were strange. > Heather > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Hays [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > May as well put my 1 cent worth into the "Black Dutch" pot ,,, at one time I > was married into a "B.D." family and they > were of German descent. > Bob Hays > _________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margrett mccorkle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:30 PM > Subject: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father > always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I > couldn't figure out what that might be. > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is very > interesting and many people descend from > these people, I could never connect my Richardson's. > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. > but know no names. I am trying to find at this > time Richardson in NC. 1775 - 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family > with a son named Samuel and a son named > William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I could use > any info. > > Thanks for any data > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > > ==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== > To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson > To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > >

Hello, I am new to this list and am interested in the following family: 1- William RICHARDSON b. 3 (30) Nov 1793, d. 24 Jan 1866 + Rebecca BOWER b. 5 Nov 1794, d. 11 Aug 1879 i. Eliza Ann RICHARDSON, b. 20 Jul 1823, d. 21 Apr 1901 m. 1848 + Thomas WEBSTER, JR., b. 19 Mar 1818, d. 30 Dec 1894 I don't know where the first couple were born or died. The second couple lived in Philadelphia in 1850 & 1860. If anyone has further info I would appreciate hearing from you. Many thanks, Millicent [email protected]

This is the first I ever heard of Black Dutch, but I have enjoyed reading all about it. Maybe that is why I didn't find my Richardson line past the 1820's, because I wasn't looking for the right thing. Larealia Alternate @mail [email protected] more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

This had something to do with the royals marrying "too close." The closed gene pool resulted in a lot of hemophealics--condition in males where their blood wouldn't coagulate and they would bleed to death--inherited through the mother. So "blue blood"--meant royal lines. At 09:29 AM 11/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > o k, this is my two cents worth, my RICHARDSON's were from England, i > grew up with my mother insisting we had 'blue blood' but she never > explained, either because it was never explained to her or because she > was to busy to explain it, or what. Like most people, my research into > genealogy began after my mother's death. Does any one know what BLUE > BLOOD means? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lawrence, Heather >Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 7:39 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > >Here is my two cents worth: >My grandmother used to tell me that I was black Dutch-she told me that her >mother always said all black Dutch is-is that you have different heritages >or whatever in you-like I am---German, Indian, English.. >I do not know if that is true or if my great grandmother just told my >grandmother that while she was growing up to passify her. >Maybe we will never know....Our ancestors were strange. >Heather > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Hays [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 9:54 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > >May as well put my 1 cent worth into the "Black Dutch" pot ,,, at one time I >was married into a "B.D." family and they >were of German descent. >Bob Hays >_________________________________ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "margrett mccorkle" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:30 PM >Subject: [RICHARDSON] "Black Dutch" Richardson's > > > > Hello, Listening in on the Black Dutch theme, I have to say: My father >always claimed to be Black Dutch and like most I >couldn't figure out what that might be. > > I went thru the Melungeon research a few years back, and though it is very >interesting and many people descend from >these people, I could never connect my Richardson's. > > My Samuel Richardson b.ca. 1806 in GA. had parents that were born in NC. >but know no names. I am trying to find at this >time Richardson in NC. 1775 - 1800 that my have migrated to GA. and a family >with a son named Samuel and a son named >William. If anyone has research that may have these two son's I could use >any info. > > Thanks for any data > > Margrett (Richardson) McCorkle > > > >==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== >To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson >To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > >==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== >To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson >To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L > > >==== RICHARDSON Mailing List ==== >To use the Richardson Query Board: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/ric/Richardson >To review Archived messages: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/RICHARDSON-L