Hi Mary You can almost bet she was in the line of Thomas Rich Sr. and Susannah(Hannah) Neu/Noe Rich of Orange county NC during the Rev war years. Later most of these moved to TN to obtain their land grants for war service and many(Rich & Noah) eventually located in Grainer county which later became Franklin county. Here is some info on my connections and I have more on the Neu/ Reich linbe if you are interested. Jacob Rich line Thomas Rich Sr.(c.1730 Germany-1780 SC) married Susannah Noah(c. 1730-died after 1792 Orange County NC)[daughter of Peter & Hannah Noe/Noah of Orange County, NC) Thomas and Susannah had three known children-Thomas Jr., Peter & Jacob. These three received land grants as a result of service in the Revolutionary war. The grandfather also served and Thomas Sr. died at Gates defeat near Camden SC in 1780. Jacob Rich Sr.(Dec 16 1762NC-Aug 14, 1838 TN). married first Philpina N. Sharp(Aug 8, 1765-Aug 2, 1808 TN). twelve children and birthdates and states of birth of this marriage: Sarah("Sallie")-Oct 10, 1784 NC Thomas Jefferson-Feb 4, 1786 NC Elizabeth-Feb 2, 1787 NC Mary- Jun 3, 1790 NC Eleanor-Feb 16, 1791 NC Barbara-Mar 6, 1793 NC Margaret-Dec 21, 1794 NC Joseph-Oct 15, 1796 NC Jacob Jr.-Oct 10, 1798 NC William-Jul 27, 1800 NC Philpena("Permelia")-Feb 7, 1802 NC Anna-Dec 5, 1804 TN Married second Rosannah Sartin Counts(Kuntz) (1781 VA-after 1855 TN) married June 15, 1810 Lincoln County TN seven children of the second marriage: George W.-Feb 1, 1813 TN James S.-Apr 18, 1816 TN Richard V.-Jun 5, 1818 TN Louisa-Mar 22, 1820 TN Marshall H.-Apr 1. 1823 TN Edward C.-May 6, 1825 TN Andrew J. -Oct 6, 1828 To add to the confusion Marshall Howell Rich(who moved to and died in Panola county MS Mar 6, 1877) had a nephew named after him who lived and died in Tennessee being almost as old as his uncle. This Jacob Rich line and the Noah family intermarried with each others family a number of times. Thomas Sr. was a German immigrant also naturalized in 1762 as I recall. The original name -Reich. [note from www.heraldry2001.com] The History and Coat of Arms of the RICH family (Left is a sample of what your surname history scroll may look like!!!) The history of this ancient Hampshire family traces its ancestry as a family of Norman origin before the year 1100 and appears first in the ancient records in Hampshire . There is a great deal of evidence that both the Rich(Reich) and Noah(Neu/Noe) families of Orange county NC originated from the Palatine(Saarland-esp Breitfurt) and there is a good possibility they were Swiss. Many Swiss had been imported into this area because of the mortality of so many residents during the long wars. Also there are a number of circumstantial cases, like MS. Lighthall mentions, that seem to connect the PA and VA & NC families. Many of the family records were seized and burned by the pesky Tories during the Rev war. For instance a history professor/writer(Ruth Blackwelder) wrote that 'by 1751 settlers were flocking in(to Orange county NC), mostly from Pennsylvania'. Moreover, the use of certain first names(John, Thomas, Jacob, Susannah/Hannah) common in the different locations lends to the credibility of the theory that all were related and originated from the same area of Europe. Marshall Howell Rich Marshall Howell Rich(1 Apr 1823 Franklin County Tenn-10 Mar 1877 Panola county Mississiappi). Marshall was the seventeenth child of Jacob Rich Sr(Dec 16, 1762 Orange County NC-Aug 14, 1838 Franklin County Tenn), his mother being Rosannah Sartin Counts Rich(1781 Va-after 1855 TN). Marshall married(wagon maker in 1850 census in Franklin County TN) three times and fathered 17 children: married first Frances E. Ford(Oct 1, 1825-Sep 6, 1851 TN)(married in Lincoln County TN): 5 children born in TN: Savannah Oct 27, 1845 Rosann 1846 Mary Ann Sep 2, 1847 Edward C. Dec 7, 1848 Louisa V. May 11, 1851 Married second Delphia Ann Dobbs(Aug 4, 1833-Aug 25, 185?) one child born in MS Benjamin B. Mar 18, 1854 Married third Louisa Jane McAninch(Apr 5, 1831AL-1894MS) having one daughter Rachel McAninch. Eleven children born in MS: Alexander M. June 5, 1857 Jacob Dec 1, 1859 (twin baby of Jacob died) Joseph P. Sep 8, 1861 Robert A. Jan 28, 1863 John Oct 15, 1864 William Thomas Feb 14,1866 Henry C. (TWIN) Oct 11, 1867 Hampton W. (TWIN) Oct 11, 1867 Samuel Jul 24, 1870 George W. Oct 10, 1873 Alexander remained in MS, railroad contractor who lived at Marks on the Coldwater river. Hampton W.(twin of Henry) remained in Tate & Tunica county MS. Named his oldest son Henry after his brother. Henry C.(twin of Hampton) moved to texas and settled in Nacogdoches, TX. Named his oldest son Hampton after his brother. Descendants of several of these are available. A census of 1870(Panola County MS) shows eleven children including an Eliza(age 16) born TN who must have been a relative. Rachel L. McAninch was listed as Rachel L. Rich and Benjamin B. was also present. The 1880 census (Tate County) shows S. R. Rich who is an unknown relative-age 69 as keeping house. S.R. was born in AL and both parents were Irish. Marshall was dead and Louisa and two of the boys were missing from this 1880 census and it is believed they were either visiting relatives in AL or in Arkansas/Texas where some of the children had moved to by this time. Some additional related families of this group are Hunter, Pickle, Cowan, Allen, Presley, Calhoun, Carter, Knox, Sinquefield, Roberts, Tate, Hunter, Lowe, Anderson, and Mabry. Bobby Rich brich@panola.com Bobby Rich brich@panola.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Tuley <marya@texoma.net> To: <RICH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:42 PM Subject: Mary Catherine Rich 1873 TN > I am looking for the parents of Mary Catherine "Kittie" Rich-b. 1873 in > Tn-d. Feb 22 1938 TX > She married Oct 10 1889 to William Holiday Lee-b. 1866 Grainger Co., Tn >