Reed, With you having Rich surnames going back to 1600s you might, if you haven't already, check ship lists coming from England. I even have Rich's from Ireland. I know there were Rich's that came from England because of the book (I think the title is ~) Rich, Earl of Warwick. This is not much help, I know ~ I can't even find mine. Mine, I believe, came by way of VA, TN, KY, NC/SC to IL. Donna