Hi Joyce, It appears that we must have some common ground here. The Richs settled in Hamilton Co, IL and were from KY. Nancy and John Francis Rich are possibly brother and sister having the father William and Pet Rich. On William Rich I have the following information: Born: 10 Aug 1785 Marriage: , , IL Death: 1849 in Williamson, Co. IL The following are my notes on William Rich: !Birth: Place unknown - John Rich of Southern Illinois and his Descendants by Ella Lorine Rogers Abney, Marion IL 62959, 1988. !Marriage: License not found in IL !Misc: W. Rich applied for 160 acres of T16, R5. Sec 5SE on 12 MAR 1816 in what is now Massac County, IL near the Ohio River. Shawneetown Land Entry Pat Maps 1814-1820 compiled and indexed by Doris Nelson. !Census 1820 Obediah Rich Caldwell, KY pg 56 - Male 2-1-1-0-1-3-0-0-0-1-0-1 Wm Rich Caldwell, KY pg 56 2-0-0-1-0-0-1-0-0-1-0-0-1 !Census 1830 - Franklin Co, IL - William Rich pg 102 Males 1 under 5yrs, 1 5-10yrs, 1 10-15yrs, 1 20-30yrs - Female 1 under 5yrs, 1 5-10yrs, 1 30-40yrs. and an Obediah Rich Jr. pg 113 Males 0-0-0-1 Female 0-0-0-1 (William and Obediah may be brothers)\ !Census 1830 - Franklin Co, IL = Obediah Rich pg 112 - 1 male 15-20yrs, 1 male 50-60yrs, 1 female 10-15yrs, 1 female 50-60yrs. We are still trying to link John Francis and Nancy Rich to William Rich and possibly linking William to the rest of a Rich line. The information that I have on John Francis Rich is the following: Born: 10 Jan 1815 in Hamilton Co, IL Death: 16 Mar 1870 in Williamson Co, IL Marriage: To Elizabeth Jane Willard Their children are: Mary Ann (Polly) RICH b. 17 Oct 1842 Tabitha Jane RICH b. 25 Jan 1844 Isiah Rich b. 15 Nov 1847 William Taylor RICH b. 14 Oct 1849 Nancy Jane RICH b. 3 Jun 1852 Phebe Angeline RICH b. 25 Jan 1854 John Francis Jr. RICH b. 22 Jun 1857 Martha Louise RICH b. 8 Mar 1860 Samantha (Mant) RICH b. 25 Jan 1864 The information that I have on Nancy Rich is: Born 26 Mar 1812 in KY Died: 26 Mar 1864 in West Frankfort, Franklin, IL Marriage: to William Groves Children: Martin GROVES b. 1834 Sarah A GROVES b 1834 Mary Jane GROVES b. 1838 Cynthia Emmaline GROVES b. 1839 Eda GROVES b 1840 Obediah GROVES b. 1842 Austin Leroy GROVES b 1844 Miles Harris GROVES b 27 NOV 1845 John H W S GROVES b. 1846 Courtney C GROVES b 1849 Louisa Parlee GROVES b 1854 Harriett Elizabeth GROVES b Apr 1855 Rufus W GROVES b 1859. If you have any information on William, John or Nancy's family, I would greatly appreciate it. I haven't been able to break through and find documentation on the William's Children or whose William's ancestors are. Joel Rich may be descendents or a cousin, hephew to John Francis or Nancy Rich. I don't have a Joel Rich in my database. Steve JET8642@aol.com wrote: > > Jim Lantrip writes: > Researching the Hamilton County Illinois Rich Families. > > Hello List, I am researching Joel RICH from around Benton ILL. I believe that > Benton is in Franklin County which is close to Hamilton Co. I believe that > Joel may have been born in Kentucky around 1835 to 1839 and he died Dec. 15 > 1879 I think Williamson Co. Joel married Susan Stalcup on April 26th 1860 in > Benton ILL. they had a daughter named Josephine (Jossie) that married into > the Summers/Somers family of Franklin Co. ILL. Does any of this sound > familiar to anyone? Please reply to me personally at JET8642@aol.com as well > as to the list. Thanks in advance. > Joyce Tadlock -- +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+ Steve & Toni Norman normansc@ticnet.com +~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+~+