Ihave rich relatives in michigan during that time frame and area as well. silas rich is in lapeer co. 1850- 1899. his wifes family the gorton's were in macomb co. i checked mich. 1870 cencus there's no aldis rich. also checked 1830 macomb co. and found none. the hyrum rich relative you mentioned is listed in new york state in 1811 in st. lawrence co. son of divan rich. town of norkolk in book Our county and its people, a history of st, lawrence co. by gates curtis page 625. i have traced my paul rich to hamilton co. 1820 there is a huge rich family there but no aldis so far. st. lawrence co. is just north of hamilton co. good luck...dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com