Hi Rich-L I am a direct descendent of Charles Coulson RICH of the Mormon Religion Rich's. The line goes Adelbert Coulson RICH Sr. => Adelbert Coulson RICH Jr. => Barbara Jean RICH => Pamela N. HOPKINS (my mother). There is a lot written about Charles Coulson RICH, but I have not been able to find any information beyond his father Joseph RICH. Has anyone out there researched farther back? I am also totally stumped by Adelbert Coulson RICH Jr.'s wife Mary Lovett SYMES. I know her father and mothers names were James SYMES & Eva May SMITH (thanks to a very kind person out there) and I know that she had a sister named Audrie, but that's all I know. Also, Adelbert Coulson RICH Jr. worked for the Southern Pacific Railroad and there is a story my mother tells of Adelbert having to change his last name to RITCHIE because his Uncle or Cousin worked for the same railroad and in those day's they didn't hire any family members. Adelbert Coulson RICH Jr. moved to California in the 1920's. I don't think that he had much contact with his family after that and I know that my grandmother was not raised Mormon, so there could possibly have been some kind of family rife. I have no relative's or cousins from Adelbert C. Rich Jr., other than my immediate family, so am looking to the Internet and the kind people who are interested in genealogy for help. I would greatly appreciate any help, Sandy Researching family names, so far - SEYMOUR (Vallejo CA & San Francisco CA) WISE (Vallejo CA & San Francisco CA) KELLY (Vallejo CA & San Francisco CA) TAYLOR(?) (Vallejo CA & San Francisco CA) STEINBACH (Oakland CA) VORMILKER (Pismo Beach CA) RICH (Idaho, Utah, San Francisco CA) SYMES (Scotland, Elkhart, IN, Nevada, San Francisco, CA) HOPKINS (San Francisco CA, San Diego CA, Santa Barbara CA) WILSONOVICH (Oakland CA) KENYON (Oakland CA, RI)