A while back I found this entry in GENEALOGY OF NEW ENGLAND 4 vol. 1) Cpt. Michael Pierce RICH 2) had son Ephriam 3) had son Experience 1682 mar Hannah Gore 4) had son Moses Rich mar. 1755 Lydia Davis From the line I have Experience was the son of Thomas Rich and Mary Petty. Maybe someone can shed some light on this mystery. Karin

headcount sounds good to me, but let's put some states with it. I have : Thomas Rich -Mary Petty 1670s MA Experience Rich- Hannah Goss, bef. 1710 Brookfield MA Moses Rich- Lydia Davis, 1730s Williamstown MA Moses Rich - Sarah Hickox 1790s to Middlefield, Otsego NY Elsa Rich- Amos Brown 1790s Middlefield Moses Rich Brown- Ellen Frink same Moses Mahoney Brown- Alice Finch New Lebanon NY ........etc....... me

The related families of RITCH, GILMORE, AKIN, JOHNSON, MOTLEY, HARRIS, FULLER, BARBEE, TAFT, and MOORE are represented in the Ritch Cemetery. The RITCH given names of those who had issue are: Emanuel, James Heard, John Frost, Zaidee G., May, and Thomas Jefferson. RITCH Cemetery, Muscogee County, GA The Ritch Cemetery, #38, Fort Benning Military Reservation, Muscogee Co GA, is located at the intersection of Moore Road and Beaumont Trail. There are 21 graves. Four graves are unmarked. Some of the Tombstones are large and ornate. The six Tombstones of the unmarried daughters of Emanuel and Sarah Jane Gilmore Ritch are shaped like the Washington Monument. A few are missing dates. The following is an annotated listing from the Ritch Cemetery. All of the known children of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore are buried in this Cemetery with the exception their son, Thomas Jefferson Ritch. He and his wife, Julia Amanda Harris, are buried in the Hollywood Cemetery, Atlanta, GA. The graves are marked as follows: 1) Julia Belle Ritch, 14 Feb 1873 - 9 Dec 1893 [Daughter of Thomas Jefferson Ritch and Julia Amanda Harris. Thomas Jefferson Ritch is the son of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. Julia Amanda Harris is the daughter of Gray Harris, born in NC, and Nancy Fuller, born in GA. Gray Harris and Nancy Fuller were married in Putnam Co GA.] 2) John L. Akin, 8 Feb 1898 - 28 Mar 1899 [Presumed son either of Zaidee G. Ritch and Charles F. Akin or of May Ritch and Charles Akin's brother. Zaidee G. Ritch and May Ritch are daughters of James Heard Ritch and Sarah Ann Johnson. May and Zaidee married Akin brothers.] 3) Leila M. Akin, 9 May 1875 - 12 Jul 1899 [Presumed daughter either of Zaidee G. Ritch and Charles F. Akin or May Ritch and Charles Akin's brother.] 4) James Heard Ritch, 13 Aug 1848 - 6 Jan 1918 [Son of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. Married Sarah Ann Johnson.] 5) Mrs. Sarah Ann Ritch, 11 Nov 1844 - 9 May 1924 [Sarah Ann Johnson, wife of James Heard Ritch and daughter of Samuel Johnson and Keziah Motley. Keziah Motley is the daughter of Thomas Motley and Lourina Barbee. Samuel Johnson is the son of Aron Johnson. Aron is buried in the Primitive Baptist Cemetery, St. Mary's Road, Columbus, GA. A number of the Motleys and Johnsons are buried either in the Johnson Cemetery or in the Motley Cemetery, Fort Benning, GA.] 6) Jessie Clyde Moore, 20 Aug 1889 - 25 Jan 1910 [Relationship is unknown.] 7) John F. Ritch, 21 Oct 1854 - 7 May 1915 [John Frost Ritch, son of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. Married Pearl Taft (not sure that this is accurate or that the spelling is correct).] 8) Edward Gilmore Ritch, [No Date] - 22 May 1899 [Son of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. Edward died without issue and there were no marriages.] 9) Emanuel Ritch, 27 Jul 1814 - 31 Jan 1884 [Born in NC, probably Mecklenburg Co, son of David Ritch. Married Sarah Jane Gilmore.] 10) Sarah Jane Ritch, 11 Dec 1816 - 12 Apr 1891 [Sarah Jane Gilmore, born in Washington Co GA according to the 1850 Muscogee Co GA Census. Married Emanuel Ritch.] 11) Miss Susan J. Ritch, [No Date] - 6 Feb 1895 [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore who never married, who had no issue, and who continued to live in the home and on the farm of their parents.] 12) Martha E. Ritch, 13 Sep 1846 - 11 Nov 1902 [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. See description of Susan J. Ritch.] 13) Missouri A. Ritch, Age 56 years, [No Date] - 12 Feb 1905 [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. See description of Susan J. Ritch. 14) Sarah W. Ritch, 4 Aug 1844 - 25 Dec [1914] (Year broken or shot off) [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. See description of Susan J. Ritch.] 15) Nancy A. Ritch, 13 Sep 1839 - 1 Jul 1909 [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. See description of Susan J. Ritch.] 16) Mary M. Ritch, 6 Aug 1837 - 12 Dec 1914 [One of six daughters of Emanuel Ritch and Sarah Jane Gilmore. See description of Susan J. Ritch.] 17) Grover Cleveland Ritch, 1 Aug 1885 - 27 May 1887 [Son of Thomas Jefferson Ritch and Julia Amanda Harris.] 18) Unmarked: Four (4) graves. Franklin W. Ingram, Raleigh, NC, f_w_i@msn.com

This is the annotated obituary of Thomas Jefferson Ritch (Muscogee Co. GA) from The Atlanta Journal, 28 Dec 1921. (The given Ritch names of Ida Blanche, Nona or Naomi, Charles Emmett, Cliff H., Henry Perse, and Alma Pearl, and the related families of Boswell, Snellings, Ingram, Gilmore, Gammage, and Harris are also mentioned here.) "Mr. Thomas J. Ritch, Pioneer Georgian, Dies From Injuries in Fall" Mr. Thomas Jefferson Ritch, beloved Confederate veteran and pioneer Georgian, died Wednesday morning at his home at 97 Elbridge drive, from injuries sustained Tuesday evening, when he fell and struck his head against the fire grate in his room. Physicians declared that a paralytic stroke caused the fall. The funeral services will be conducted at 1:30 o'clock Thursday afternoon from the chapel of H. M. Patterson & Son, with the Rev. Henley officiating. Interment will be in Hollywood cemetery. The John W. Wilkerson lodge of Masons will conduct the services at the grave. Mr. Ritch was eighty-one years of age and for ten years had been making his home in Atlanta with his son, Charles E. Ritch. He was a native of Upatoie, GA., near Columbus, and resided there before coming to Atlanta. He served with distinction as a lieutenant in the Fifty-fourth Georgia regiment in the War Between the States, and was never wounded during the four years of service. He was widely known throughout his section of the state. For many years he was a member of the Masonic lodge at Elberslie, GA. [Note: he was a Sgt.] Surviving him are his wife, three daughters, Mrs. D. E. Boswell, Mrs. J. I. [F.] Ingram and Mrs. R. S. Snellings; four sons, Charles E., H. P., J. T. and C. H. Ritch, and thirty-four grandchildren." 28 Dec 1921, The Atlanta Journal, Wednesday PM, p20, c4 Annotations: Thomas Jefferson Ritch was born in Muscogee Co GA c. 1841. He was the son of Emanuel Ritch, b. NC, (1814-1884) and Sarah Jane Gilmore, b. Washington Co GA, (1816-1891). He was the grandson of David Ritch (Muscogee Co GA Will). Emanuel and Sarah Jane Gilmore Ritch and all of their children, except Thomas Jefferson Ritch, are buried in 21 graves in Cemetery #38 (Ritch Cemetery) Fort Benning Reservation, Muscogee Co GA. According to Lillian Henderson's Roster of the Confederate Soldiers of Georgia: 1861-1865, Vol. 5, p. 692, Thomas J. Ritch-3rd Sergeant (not a Lieutenant) May 12, 1862. Co. G., 54th Regiment, Georgia Volunteer Infantry, Army of Tennessee, C.S.A., Muscogee County, Georgia. He was discharged, furnished substitute, in 1863. Appointed Sergeant of Co. K, 12th Regiment, Georgia State (Robinson's) Guards Cavalry, August 4, 1863. Mustered out at Atlanta, GA. February 4, 1864. Thomas J. Ritch's wife was Julia Amanda Harris (b. c. 1845), daughter of Gray Harris, b. NC, and Nancy Fuller, b. GA. They married in Putnam Co GA. Mrs. J. I. Ingram should have been Mrs. J. F. (Jefferson Franklin) Ingram. She was Ida Blanche Ritch. Mrs. D. E. Boswell was Mrs. Daniel Evans Boswell. She was Nona "Naomi" Thomas Ritch. Mrs. R. S. Snellings was Mrs. John Robert Snellings, later Mrs. Crockett M. Gammage. She was Alma Pearl Ritch. C. E. Ritch was Charles Emmett Ritch. C. H. Ritch was Cliff H. Ritch. H. P. Ritch was Henry Perse Ritch and married Mittie Keziah Snellings If you have questions or additional information, please contact Franklin Ingram, f_w_i@msn.com Raleigh, NC.

The following message has detailed data about the Ritch line (David, Hardy Cry, William, J. Jefferson, Edward, Emanuel, Anna, Hannah, and Mary) and related families (Helms, Height, Crye, Dunning, Blunt, Tinsley) of Mecklenburg Co NC and Muscogee Co GA. On 6 Dec 1847, David RITCH signed his Will in Muscogee Co GA. He is my gg grandfather. His wife's identity and the place and date of his birth are unknown to me. Based on both the 1850 Census and circumstantial evidence, I assume that some, if not all, of his children were born in what was then known as Mecklenburg Co NC. However, I have not proven a definite link between any specific NC Ritches and my David RITCH who died in Muscogee Co GA. My g grandfather, Emanuel RITCH, was 33 when his father signed his Will and was likely the youngest of David RITCH'S sons. According to his Will, David RITCH'S sons were: William, J Jefferson, Edward, Hardy Cry, and Emanuel. Daughters were: Mary, Anna HELMS, and Hannah HEIGHT. Emanuel and David CRY were the Executors. All children of David RITCH that I have found so far that are enumerated in the 1850 GA Census were born in NC. In 1851, Emanuel Ritch was named the Executor of Timothy DUNNING'S Will and also named as guardian of Susan F. DUNNING, Timothy's youngest daughter. She is surely the Francis DUNNING who was four in the 1850 Census household of Timothy DUNNING. Timothy DUNNING was born about 1798 in SC. Susan Francis' mother was very likely Nancy C TINSLEY DUNNING. About 1851, William TINSLEY died at 89 years of age and left a Will in Muscogee Co GA. He named Nancy DUNNING, wife of Timothy DUNNING (deceased), as one of his daughters. Of some interest is that one of Nancy TINSELY DUNNING'S sisters was married to George NEELY of SC. Documented below is the fact that a David RITCHEY bought and sold land in Mecklenburg Co NC with a Hugh NEELY. Based on data taken from the 1850 Census and from the RITCH Cemetery (Muscogee Co GA), Emanuel was born 27 Jul 1814 in NC. He married Sarah Jane GILMORE who was born 11 Dec 1816 in Washington Co GA. The date and place of marriage are unknown to me. Their oldest known child was born in Muscogee Co GA on 6 Aug 1837. I have not yet established the migration pattern of David RITCH and his family from NC to Muscogee Co GA. The 1840 Muscogee Co GA Census is the first GA Census that I have found that enumerates a David RITCH. And, of course, some of David RITCH'S children, relatives, and friends could have gone to GA earlier than he did. I am about to begin a comparison of NC, SC, and GA Census records that enumerate any RITCH or variation of the RITCH surname. Particular attention will be paid to the given names of David, Jefferson, William, Hardy, James, John, Thomas, Edward, Jacob, or Edmond. These are the ones most likely to be ancestors or relatives of Emanuel RITCH. After a preliminary review of early Mecklenburg and Anson Co NC land and Court records, I believe that Emanuel RITCH'S ancestors farmed various parcels of land located around what was then the Anson/Mecklenburg Co NC line in the area that is probably now part of Union Co NC. Their land was also near the SC line so I assume that some of Emanuel's ancestors owned land in SC. Others that also moved to GA from NC and appear closely associated with Emanuel RITCH were the HELMS, CRY or CRYE, and BLOUNT or BLUNT families. Nancy BLUNT, 49 and born in NC, was living in Emanuel RITCH'S household in the 1850 Census. In the Upatoi District of Muscogee Co, several HELMS-households were neighbors of Emanuel RITCH and his presumed brother, Jefferson RITCH. Not far away, in Talbot Co GA, were two CRY households. Timothy DUNNING'S household was also close by in the Upatoi District. In his 1787 Mecklenburg Co NC Will, "John RITCHIE Senior" (this is an exact quote from the original Will and John RITCHIE signed his own name) named David RITCHIE as one of his sons and the Executor of his Estate. Other sons were William and John. His wife was Jane and his daughter was Elizabeth. Because he should have been legally an adult in 1787, I assume that the David RITCHIE named in John RITCHIE, Sr's Will was born before 1767. He would have been at least 90 in 1847, which means that this David Ritchie is unlikely to have been my gg grandfather. In Feb 1837, a David RITCH, who I assume was my gg grandfather, sold three (3) parcels of land in Mecklenburg Co NC to Gilmore HELMS. I also assume that Gilmore HELMS was either a relative by marriage or the actual son-in-law of David RITCH. Other than the name being the same, this is the best evidence I have at present of a direct link between this David RITCH and my gg grandfather, David RITCH. Also, in Jan 1805, a David RITCHEY sold a parcel of land in Mecklenburg Co NC to a Ruben BLUNT. Other official records also suggest a close association between the RITCHES and Ruben BLUNT or BLOUNT. Between 1777 and 1837, an individual or, more likely, individuals named David RICH, RITCHEY, etc. bought and sold a number of parcels of land in Anson and Mecklenburg Co NC. These transactions are as follows: 1. July 1777, David RICH bought land in Anson Co NC from Dennis MCCLENDON. 2. May 1797, David and Jean RITCHEY sold land in Mecklenburg Co NC to Hugh NEELY. This was from John Cambell's Barony [?]. 3. Sept 1797, David RITCHEY sold land in Mecklenburg Co NC to James KENEDY. 4. Oct 1797, David RITCHEY bought land in Mecklenburg Co NC from James RICH (RITCHEY). 5. May 1800, David RITCHEY bought land in Mecklenburg Co NC from Hugh NEELY. This was from John Cambell's Barony [?]. 6. Jan 1805, David RITCHEY sold land in Mecklenburg Co NC to Ruben BLUNT. 7. Nov 1808, David RITCHIE sold land in Anson Co NC to John HELMS. 8. July 1810, David RICHE (sic) received a land grant in Anson Co NC from the State of NC. 9. Aug 1810, David RICHEY (RICHE) sold land in Mecklenburg Co NC to Peter NEWEL. 10. Aug 1810, David RICHE sold land in Anson Co NC to John BYRD. 11. Feb 1837, David RITCH sold three (3) parcels of land in Mecklenburg Co NC to Gilmore HELMS. The earliest land transaction that I have found involving a RITCH in either Anson or Mecklenburg Co NC was 1764 when Jacob RITCHEY bought land from Justina and Arthur DOBBS. However, a Courthouse fire in 1868 destroyed many Anson Co court records, and Mecklenburg Co was not created out of Anson Co until 1762. I have not yet checked Bladen Co records out of which Anson Co was formed in 1750, but Bladen Co suffered losses of records in 1800 and again in 1893. Franklin Ingram, Raleigh, NC, f_w_i@msn.com

I'm also here Ted Richard

Well, I don't know if anyone else is out there...but I am. I just joined the list about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Am researching Agatha Rich & John Baptist Kroetsch from Formosa, Ontario... so, I'm here...is anyone else? Pam Marks San Jose, CA

Based on the messages to the List ,one or two of you may find clues in the following information from Anita Green to me. She is a leader in Crye family research and my Ritch line is closely connected to the Cryes, though I do not yet know how. My great, great grandfather named a son Hardy Cry Ritch and the Executors of his Will were David Cry and my great grandfather, Emanuel Ritch. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anita Green" <agcrye@bellsouth.net> To: <f_w_i@email.msn.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 7:10 PM Subject: richie > I have just copied four Indian Pension application rolls for Francis M. > Richie, James Charles Richie, Ida Crye, and John W. Crye. Francis and > James were from two different families, but both mothers were Crye's, > daughters of William and Elizabeth Barker Crye. They state that in 1851 > they were Tennesssee, but the interesting thing listed on both Ritchie's > and John W. Crye's application (his father was a son of William and > Elizabeth Barker Crye who were also in Ga with your Rich families) is > that the Richies came from Jefferson Co. TN and so did John W.'s > mother. I tried to go online and see if I could find something for you, > but could not access jefferson Co. TN. Just thought this information > might prove helpful somewhere down the line. I continue to look for the > connection with Crye/Ritch for you. > ag

I'm Here too Roberta Jones Skppr641@cs.com wrote: > > I'm also here > > Ted Richard

I assume that I received the message below because I am still a member of the Rich-L list. However, I do not receive mail from this list. I assume that the list is quite dormant. In the past I have posted Ritch data including tombstones, etc. I can always post this data again if it will be of interest, but is anyone listening? This data is already available in the Archives. Franklin Ingram ----- Original Message ----- From: <FRICHJ@aol.com> To: <RICH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: Request for Kinfolk Articles > Hello, Everyone! > > Thanks to Craig's RICH-L@rootsweb.com, I am able to contact everyone of you > with one message! > > And the message is "Will you contribute to the list an article of interest, > something that you have learned about Rich ancestors, perhaps an anecdote > that you have discovered or know through family conversations over the years. > Maybe you are looking for the missing pieces of information that will > connect you to your specific line or branch. > > You may have alreadydiscovered <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/rich/">h > ttp://genforum.genealogy.com/rich/</A> through which forum you can ask > questions pertaining to your line, but wouldn't it be more fun to air your > questions here in this list and share some of your adventures in locating > long lost Rich's? Wouldn't it make this list a lot more interesting, reading > what your "cousins" are doing in their family search and perhaps filling in > some their information "blanks" or giving them suggestions how they might > proceed? > > My agenda is to ask you to belong to the Rich Family Association, if you > don't already, and receive their quarterly magazine, Kinfolk, and contribute > your own articles of interest. And if you do have something to contribute, > please consider sending email to Dick Rich, RFA President or to Catherine > Baritaud, the publishing editor for the magazine. Both of these folks can be > contacted through the RFA website: <A > HREF="http://www.richfamilyassociation.org/">http://www.richfamilyassociatio n. > org/</A> . > > Garde la foy! And thanks. > > /fj > > Frank Rich Johnson > (603) 898-5237 > frichj@aol.com > >

Hey list! :) I see we have some new "blood" in the family! Let's put our families out there and see what we can get. This is on my husband's side: Lyle Edward Rich-Charlotte DeRosier(div)-Grandparents Otis Melvin Rich-Esther Edith Yerkes George Pew Rich-Nancy Hickey Thomas Turner Rich-Martha Midgett Amos Rich-Sarah Highsmith Isaiah Rich-Mary Harper Isaiah is Samuel's brother. I'll be happy to trade information with anyone who connects. Corina Kusch _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html

Hello to all: To anyone who may be interested, our branch of the Rich family is having it's family reunion September 16th this year. It will be held in the Pavillion at the Chico, Texas City Park which is in Wise County. Most of us are descended from Isaiah Rich of Fayette County, Pennsylvania (found on the 1790 census) through his son Samuel Rich. Any descendent of Isaiah is welcome to attend. There will be several Rich researchers sharing information. The Wise County Historical Society has Wise County genealogical information available nearby in Decatur. Plus, it is only a short drive to Dallas and Fort Worth which have some of the best genealogical libraries in the country. Of course, a branch of the National Archives is also located in Fort Worth. Email me at macemace@aol.com if you need additional information, and I will put you in contact with someone who can help. Take care, and hope you can come to see us. Best Regards, Steve Mason

Hello, Everyone! Thanks to Craig's RICH-L@rootsweb.com, I am able to contact everyone of you with one message! And the message is "Will you contribute to the list an article of interest, something that you have learned about Rich ancestors, perhaps an anecdote that you have discovered or know through family conversations over the years. Maybe you are looking for the missing pieces of information that will connect you to your specific line or branch. You may have alreadydiscovered <A HREF="http://genforum.genealogy.com/rich/">h ttp://genforum.genealogy.com/rich/</A> through which forum you can ask questions pertaining to your line, but wouldn't it be more fun to air your questions here in this list and share some of your adventures in locating long lost Rich's? Wouldn't it make this list a lot more interesting, reading what your "cousins" are doing in their family search and perhaps filling in some their information "blanks" or giving them suggestions how they might proceed? My agenda is to ask you to belong to the Rich Family Association, if you don't already, and receive their quarterly magazine, Kinfolk, and contribute your own articles of interest. And if you do have something to contribute, please consider sending email to Dick Rich, RFA President or to Catherine Baritaud, the publishing editor for the magazine. Both of these folks can be contacted through the RFA website: <A HREF="http://www.richfamilyassociation.org/">http://www.richfamilyassociation. org/</A> . Garde la foy! And thanks. /fj Frank Rich Johnson (603) 898-5237 frichj@aol.com

OK, so there are others out there on this list. Later tonight I will post some of my Ritch material. Briefly though, I have quite a bit of Ritchie, Ritch, Rich material from Mecklenburg Co NC and surrounding areas from the late 1700's through about 1830. These Ritch's are closely allied with the Helms ancestors of the infamous Sen. Jessie Helms of NC. They are also closely related to the Cryes, etc. I research in the NC Archives and so have access to lots of Ritch material that does not relate to my direct line, but I stick pretty much to the pre 1840 material because my ancestors were in GA by then. My Ritch ancestors went to Muscogee Co GA around 1840, give or take a few years. With them went Helms, Cryes, etc. I have a family letter dating from 1890 from Hollins, AL to Columbus, GA. Also have tombstone inscriptions from one of the Ritch cemeteries in Muscogee Co GA. Also Census data, etc. Some of the Ritch descendants from this line pushed on into TX after the Civil War and before 1890. The 1890 letter speaks of them and also some of them came back to GA. My later post will detail names and dates but this gives you some idea of the Ritch lines that I am researching. As you know the Ritch name is also spelled Rich, even in official documents. Franklin Ingram, Raleigh, NC

Lennie and Bill Sharp, I, too, would be very interested in seeing what you have on Thomas and Susannah Noe Rich, some of whose descendants came to Fentress Co., TN. I am also descended from John and Catherine Pile Rich. Thomas Rich and Susannah Noe Thomas Rich, Jr. and ? John Rich m Catherine Pile Thomas Rich m Anna Young Calvin Rich and Margaret Angel Joseph Marshall Rich and Susan Davidson Lena Rich and Willard Haze Voiles Helen Voiles Davis Thank you! Am willing to share whatever I have that interests you. Helen Thank you for sharing and I am willing to share whatever you might want from the Tennessee branch of the family. On Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:17:21 -0700 RICH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:

In a message dated 8/13/00 6:17:21 PM, lbsharp@bellsouth.net writes: << Was Jane Rich the daughter of Joseph Rich who was the son of Jacob Rich and Philpena Sharp? Thanks. L. Sharp >> In a message dated 8/13/00 6:17:21 PM, lbsharp@bellsouth.net writes: << Was Jane Rich the daughter of Joseph Rich who was the son of Jacob Rich and Philpena Sharp? Thanks. L. Sharp >> Resending the following as it looks like it got mixed up in previous Email: Here is my Rich line: JOSEPH RICH, 1670 -1757, PA. ELIZ. GRUBB BEESON, 1675, PA (1) JOHN RICH, 1717 SARAH FRAZIER, PA 1725 (2) PETER RICH, 1762 - 1829 MARY WILLIAMS, 1761 (3) JOSEPH RICH, 1788 -1859, NC MARGARET COX, 1791 - 1863, NC (4) JANE RICH, 1817 - 1851, NC VINNEDGE RUSSELL, 1811 - 1887, OHIO Glen Russell

In a message dated 8/13/00 6:17:21 PM, lbsharp@bellsouth.net writes: << Was Jane Rich the daughter of Joseph Rich who was the son of Jacob Rich and Philpena Sharp? Thanks. L. Sharp >> Here is my Rich line: (Spouse parents) JOSEPH RICH, 1670 -1757, PA. ELIZ. GRUBB BEESON, 1675, PA HENRY GRUBB / MARY PERKINS (1) JOHN RICH, 1717 SARAH FRAZIER, PA 1725 ALEX. FRAZIER / SARAH COPPOCK (2) PETER RICH, 1762 - 1829 MARY WILLIAMS, 1761 JOSEPH WILLIAMS / ABIGAIL CLARK (3) JOSEPH RICH, 1788 -1859, NC MARGARET COX, 1791 - 1863, NC (4) JANE RICH, 1817 - 1851, NC VINNEDGE RUSSELL, 1811 - 1887, OHIO SAM. RUSSELL / ELIZ, VINNEDGE Glen Russell

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------68C287F0B497D24A0C7A4BD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Was Jane Rich the daughter of Joseph Rich who was the son of Jacob Rich and Philpena Sharp? Thanks. L. Sharp GRUSSHELL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/11/00 7:36:54 PM, FRICHJ@aol.com writes: > > << "Rich. --- Richard, born probably in Dover Neck, NH in 1632, died at sea > (lived in Eastham, Mass.) in 1692, by Frederick S. Rich, 11 South Lake > Street, Litchfield, Conn. 06759" > > Does anyone in RFA know of a Rich genealogy written by Frederick S. Rich? >> > > Hello: > > I would be interested in an answer to the question above also: > > I have correspondence in file between my mother and Frederick S. Rich, > between early 1963 and into 1966, dealing with my fathers Rich ancestors. At > that time it appears he was developing the data for a book. He later moved > to Houston, Texas. > > There is no information on when any book was released. > > The Rich line connected to my Russell line with the marriage in Richmond, > Wayne Co, Indiana (Aug 1834) of Jane Rich of Guilford, NC to Vinnedge Russell > of Trumbull, Ohio. > > Jane Rich's ancestry goes back to Joseph Rich and Elizabeth Grubb Holmes > Beeson. > > Thank you > > Glen Russell > Arizona --------------68C287F0B497D24A0C7A4BD8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Sharp, William Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: William Sharp n: Sharp;William email;internet: lbsharp@bellsouth.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------68C287F0B497D24A0C7A4BD8--

Hello Dick, Craig and All, Since sending out the query on a genealogy written by Fred S. Rich on Richard Rich of Dover Neck, I have received replies from several RFAs and thanks for your quick response. Mary Lighthall referred us to Barbara Baker, with whom we talked on the telephone this week, who tells us that Fred Rich's genealogy, in process at that writing (NEHGS Oct 1964, Vol 118), was never completed. Like all Rich's descended through Richard of Eastham, I have been researching our 17th c ancestor and examining the 17th c history to see when Richard came to the colony, what his business interests were in coming to the Dover settlement, his relationship with Thomas Roberts (other than marrying Roberts' daughter Sarah), and his apparently sudden move to Eastham. My wife Mary and I are beginning (continuing) to speculate on what else might have developed so that Richard left the Dover Neck area. We have come up with several possible theories, but the basis for all of them is that he was first and foremost a mariner whose business interests were not limited to Dover Neck or to Eastham, for that matter. Secondly, and very important to our guesswork, we think he was associated with other prominent businessmen, including Thomas Roberts, who had come from England to take advantage of the opportunities here, and to participate in the commercial trade between plantations along the New England coast, down to Virginia, and to the West Indies. As our estimate of Richard's participation in this trading activity widens beyond Dover Neck and Eastham, we can imagine that Eastham would have been a very convenient place for him to settle, and a safe place for his family to live, far from the dangers of Indian raids threatening the English settlements along the coast. The Laconia Company, consisting of a number of prominent English businessmen (including Thomas Roberts) had failed to develop a thriving trade of lumber, furs and other worthwhile goods between the colony and England. Starting about 1623 with a patent "to the Laconia Company," a number of ships started carrying trade goods between the Piscataqua (Rye, Newcastle, Portsmouth, and Berwick) region to England. By 1633, adventurers who had underwritten this commercial venture realized that the experiment was a failure, withdrew their support and moved on to other opportunities in New England, some of them as far south as Virginia. Shebnah Rich (Truro, Cape Cod or Landmarks and Sea Marks) believed that Richard (1) was a contemporary of Thomas Roberts and that it was his son Richard (2), the mariner, who married Roberts' daughter and settled in Eastham. If this is so, might this be the connection by which Richard (2) is associated with the coastal trade merchants? We have recently read that an R. Rich was aboard the Sea Venture with Stephen Hopkins in 1609 when it ran aground in Bermuda. After his arrival in Jamestown, Hopkins subsequently returned to England, sailing again for New England on the Mayflower in 1620. Did R. Rich also return to England? Could Richard Rich (1) have sailed to New England with the Laconia Company in 1623? And when his son removed to Eastham, did Richard (1) return to England or look for other opportunities? It's a mystery! I hope you will be interested in the state of our "research and guesswork." Sometimes guessing and then looking for clues will produce some amazing discoveries ~ and sometimes not! /fj Frank Rich Johnson (603) 898-5237 frichj@aol.com

In a message dated 8/11/00 7:36:54 PM, FRICHJ@aol.com writes: << "Rich. --- Richard, born probably in Dover Neck, NH in 1632, died at sea (lived in Eastham, Mass.) in 1692, by Frederick S. Rich, 11 South Lake Street, Litchfield, Conn. 06759" Does anyone in RFA know of a Rich genealogy written by Frederick S. Rich? >> Hello: I would be interested in an answer to the question above also: I have correspondence in file between my mother and Frederick S. Rich, between early 1963 and into 1966, dealing with my fathers Rich ancestors. At that time it appears he was developing the data for a book. He later moved to Houston, Texas. There is no information on when any book was released. The Rich line connected to my Russell line with the marriage in Richmond, Wayne Co, Indiana (Aug 1834) of Jane Rich of Guilford, NC to Vinnedge Russell of Trumbull, Ohio. Jane Rich's ancestry goes back to Joseph Rich and Elizabeth Grubb Holmes Beeson. Thank you Glen Russell Arizona