Hello: Rootsweb lists to be closed 2nd March. RHODESIAN REGISTRY: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianregistry/ If you have lived in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and have a good interest to be on such a list. Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society: https://www.facebook.com/groups/42930114782/ If you are a descendant of a Rhodesian Pioneer. Thanks - Bart. ===========

Thank you bart. My apology for the delay in relying - haven't been able t send messages for some time. Kind regards, Jennie ________________________________ From: Bart Simon <twzimboy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 26 January 2020 11:27 AM To: Z RW TPS <rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TPS] Rootsweb Mail Lists Close Down.... Hello: I am giving warning again that this and all Rootsweb mail lists will be closing down as such. I recommend replacement as following: Rhodesian Registry: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianregistry/ Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society: https://www.facebook.com/groups/42930114782/ This is a "strong" recommendation (As suggested by Barry). It will be different, not a plain text environment. There are several 1000 people here, photo content can be jaw dropping, mildly put. It is not necessary for me to open a new list elsewhere. Continue your searches, you will find, and I Hope You find Your Way Back in Time. As always, Yours Sincerely - Bart. Thank You Rootsweb for everything you have done !!!. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hello: I am giving warning again that this and all Rootsweb mail lists will be closing down as such. I recommend replacement as following: Rhodesian Registry: https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianregistry/ Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society: https://www.facebook.com/groups/42930114782/ This is a "strong" recommendation (As suggested by Barry). It will be different, not a plain text environment. There are several 1000 people here, photo content can be jaw dropping, mildly put. It is not necessary for me to open a new list elsewhere. Continue your searches, you will find, and I Hope You find Your Way Back in Time. As always, Yours Sincerely - Bart. Thank You Rootsweb for everything you have done !!!.

THIS EMAIL ACCOUNT IS NO LONGER IN USE OR BEING MONITORED... If you have important mail please redirect it to adf@field.co.zw or andrewf@zenith.co.zw/admin@zenith.co.zw if business On 13 January, 2020 14:09 GMT+2, "Derek Michael Wallace" <derekwallace65@gmail.com> wrote: > Bill > > There is quite a lot of information around concerning the Cloete and > Roberts families. > I am quite willing to help you if you could be a little more specific in > what you are seeking. > My initial search shows that Winifred was born in 1896 and the Roberts > family came from Wimbledon in the1790's > > Regards > > Derek M Wallace > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 10:56, William Heyneke <williamheyneke@bigpond.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Sir / Madam, >> >> I refer your above email address, and in regards to finding early >> Rhodesian pioneers. >> >> My Grandfather on my mothers side was one Lawrence Cloete, married >> Winifred Hall Roberts of Stutaheim, Eastern Cape South Africa. My >> Grandfather, from what I have gleaned was also from the same area. I am >> not sure of my facts as my mother died when I was aged 6, so have very >> little info to go on. >> >> What I have been told by a distant cousin, is that Lawrence and Winifred >> Cloete supposedly traveled up to then N Rhodesia by ox wagon, either >> after the second Boer war or the first world war. I can understand this >> after the Boer war, but not WW1 as their was already a rail line into N >> Rhodesia at the time. They may well have traveled by ox wagon from S >> Rhodesia? >> >> What I do know is that they were early N Rhodesian pioneers, who settled >> in the Kalomo district of N Rhodesia. They are mentioned in the >> chronicles of the 1820 settlers, but details are scarce. >> >> While I am not able to supply any other info, and appreciate this is a >> long shot, can you help. >> >> Regards >> >> Bill Heyneke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community >> > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community >

Bill There is quite a lot of information around concerning the Cloete and Roberts families. I am quite willing to help you if you could be a little more specific in what you are seeking. My initial search shows that Winifred was born in 1896 and the Roberts family came from Wimbledon in the1790's Regards Derek M Wallace On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 at 10:56, William Heyneke <williamheyneke@bigpond.com> wrote: > Dear Sir / Madam, > > I refer your above email address, and in regards to finding early > Rhodesian pioneers. > > My Grandfather on my mothers side was one Lawrence Cloete, married > Winifred Hall Roberts of Stutaheim, Eastern Cape South Africa. My > Grandfather, from what I have gleaned was also from the same area. I am > not sure of my facts as my mother died when I was aged 6, so have very > little info to go on. > > What I have been told by a distant cousin, is that Lawrence and Winifred > Cloete supposedly traveled up to then N Rhodesia by ox wagon, either > after the second Boer war or the first world war. I can understand this > after the Boer war, but not WW1 as their was already a rail line into N > Rhodesia at the time. They may well have traveled by ox wagon from S > Rhodesia? > > What I do know is that they were early N Rhodesian pioneers, who settled > in the Kalomo district of N Rhodesia. They are mentioned in the > chronicles of the 1820 settlers, but details are scarce. > > While I am not able to supply any other info, and appreciate this is a > long shot, can you help. > > Regards > > Bill Heyneke > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hello: This is where the original Rootsweb South Africa Mail List seems to be moving to. Hope to see you there. Thanks - Bart.... = Hello, Welcome to the afgen@groups.io group at Groups.io, a free, easy-to-use email group service. Please take a moment to review this message. You can visit your group, start reading messages and posting them here: https://groups.io/g/afgen The email address for this group is: afgen@groups.io. Because our system allows for participants to post via web or email, you can use this email to post new topics. But most importantly, please add this email address to your safe sender list in your email client’s contacts. For discussing African genealogy and family history and sharing family history information. This forum covers the entire continent of Africa. You can set your subscription settings here: https://groups.io/g/afgen/editsub. You can opt to receive: all messages in individual emails, collections of messages in a digest, a daily summary, or only special notices. If you do not wish to belong to this group, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to: afgen+unsubscribe@groups.io To see and modify all of your groups, go to https://groups.io Regards, The afgen@groups.io Moderator. =

Hello: I have already moved over to the Facebook site. Maybe join up there too. Thanks - Bart....

Hello: One might want to consider to leave their 'mark' on this list and group before it closes, for others to find you in time to come. If you so wish, feel free to post your interests, and may include your email address if you so wish to put that out, etc. If you have any ancestor you can't find, or question, etc., a good time to put it out, 'to the list'. I connect to Thomas Ignatius Ferreira, of the Henry-Steyn Trek, and another. 576 persons were submitted for inclusion into the 'The Ferreira Book', and printed by a RSA University quite some time ago, a limited edition. It had many or most Ferreira Zim lines quite updated to about 1995 or so. Thomas Moodie, Moodie Trek Leader, is my great uncle. His daughter Elsie Elizabeth Moodie, was some time a nurse at the Memorial Hospital, Bulawayo. About 2007 or so, this was used as an office for the National Parks Board in Byo. The building, or remainder of it, is fairly small, and almost on the street, I think it was. It is just off Robert Mugabe Way, to the left, coming into town from the Trade Fair side, can someone say exactly which street it is in ?. I know where it is when I am there.... Grant Berry: I am not completely certain, but if you are the person I 'think' you are, we have met, and I have even been into your home once when you were there.... I bet I got ya a wondering.... If in the 70's you lived in the suburb of H., Byo, it might be you, I remember your? name as it is. Cheers - Bart....

Thanks Grant. Just asking, to what extent is the Rhodesian Pioneers FB list orientated towards genealogical interests ?. Bart.... 'Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society' Facebook group is the way forward, I think.

I would suggest those that have been contributing, and those that have been following, the Rhodesian-Pioneers Rootsweb list now sign up to the 'Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society' Facebook group. The good discussions that we have had could be continued there. https://www.facebook.com/groups/42930114782/ (Links to the archived Rootsweb stuff could be posted there to simplify finding it in the future.) There are two other sites, each with a different focus: 'Rhodesian Registry' - a site dedicated to Rhodesian genealogy, questions on family, etc. https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianregistry/ 'Zimbabwe & Rhodesia history 50 years or more back' - a site dedicated to historical facts, questions, answers, experiences https://www.facebook.com/groups/766517063548268/ regards, Barry Brown

Hello: The message has been put out that all lists at Rootsweb will close down for posting etc., but archives will be kept and searchable etc. I already 2 months ago, copied down the list of emails for all members on this list, so we can still be in contact, in case, like some other RSA lists seem to have had the problem, where they apparently were closed without any warning etc. We have to the end of next month to 'move over elsewhere'. May we join together and decide where we would like to go or join up etc. Thank you - Bart....

Dear Sir / Madam, I refer your above email address, and in regards to finding early Rhodesian pioneers. My Grandfather on my mothers side was one Lawrence Cloete, married Winifred Hall Roberts of Stutaheim, Eastern Cape South Africa. My Grandfather, from what I have gleaned was also from the same area. I am not sure of my facts as my mother died when I was aged 6, so have very little info to go on. What I have been told by a distant cousin, is that Lawrence and Winifred Cloete supposedly traveled up to then N Rhodesia by ox wagon, either after the second Boer war or the first world war. I can understand this after the Boer war, but not WW1 as their was already a rail line into N Rhodesia at the time. They may well have traveled by ox wagon from S Rhodesia? What I do know is that they were early N Rhodesian pioneers, who settled in the Kalomo district of N Rhodesia. They are mentioned in the chronicles of the 1820 settlers, but details are scarce. While I am not able to supply any other info, and appreciate this is a long shot, can you help. Regards Bill Heyneke

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019, 18:46 tck19.tessaking, <tck19.tessaking@gmail.com> wrote: > Please can you remove Tessa King from your mailing list as she passed away > in May.Thank youDallas King > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > -------- Original message --------From: Ed Cornish < > edc@somersetshire.plus.com> Date: 09/07/2019 17:12 (GMT+02:00) To: > rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Subject: [TPS] New Names Index > Hi Folks > > I have created a new Names index. > This time to do with the Naturalization files images that are found under > the section > “Migration and Citizenship: Showing All”, which is on the Zimbabwe main > page. > > The online folder contains a Read me. > > Full access is as usual via the Familysearch website > > Again this link may be shared across to the FB Legacy site > > Here is the link > https://app.box.com/s/cmbyrqh8v4b7gk1mo011h0tb041o90hq > > > Ed Cornish > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Oh wow Ed, that's fantastic! I'll copy your post across to these two FB sites, where it will be appreciated: Rhodesian Pioneers and Early Settlers Society https://www.facebook.com/groups/42930114782/ RHODESIAN REGISTRY https://www.facebook.com/groups/rhodesianregistry/ The only comment I have is that the FamilySearch path to the films is 'Zimbabwe - Naturalization and Citizenship' regards, Barry Brown

Please can you remove Tessa King from your mailing list as she passed away in May.Thank youDallas King Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Ed Cornish <edc@somersetshire.plus.com> Date: 09/07/2019 17:12 (GMT+02:00) To: rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Subject: [TPS] New Names Index Hi Folks I have created a new Names index. This time to do with the Naturalization files images that are found under the section “Migration and Citizenship: Showing All”,  which is on the Zimbabwe main page. The online folder contains a Read me. Full access is as usual via the Familysearch website Again this link may be shared  across to the FB Legacy site Here is the link https://app.box.com/s/cmbyrqh8v4b7gk1mo011h0tb041o90hq Ed Cornish _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Please can you remove Tessa King from your mailing list as she passed away in May.Thank youDallas King Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Ed Cornish <edc@somersetshire.plus.com> Date: 09/07/2019 17:12 (GMT+02:00) To: rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Subject: [TPS] New Names Index Hi Folks I have created a new Names index. This time to do with the Naturalization files images that are found under the section “Migration and Citizenship: Showing All”,  which is on the Zimbabwe main page. The online folder contains a Read me. Full access is as usual via the Familysearch website Again this link may be shared  across to the FB Legacy site Here is the link https://app.box.com/s/cmbyrqh8v4b7gk1mo011h0tb041o90hq Ed Cornish _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Folks I have created a new Names index. This time to do with the Naturalization files images that are found under the section “Migration and Citizenship: Showing All”, which is on the Zimbabwe main page. The online folder contains a Read me. Full access is as usual via the Familysearch website Again this link may be shared across to the FB Legacy site Here is the link https://app.box.com/s/cmbyrqh8v4b7gk1mo011h0tb041o90hq Ed Cornish

How extremely interesting... With sincere best wishes, Andrew D Field Telephone +263 772 129215 (mobile - including WhatsApp); +263 242 755593 (Office); +263 242 882897 (Home); +263 867 7111437 (VoIP - Home Office). Wish I was out doing what I like to do - http://wildfieldphotography.wordpress.com/ If you forward this message please consider using the Bcc box and give recipients the privacy they deserve -----Original Message----- From: Barry Brown [mailto:barry.brown@elisanet.fi] Sent: Wednesday, 20 March 2019 11:29 AM To: rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Bart Simon' <twzimboy@gmail.com> Subject: [TPS] Off Topic: Service Records Bart, On the 'Rhodesian Bush War' FB site, Terence King wrote the following, on the death of Lt. Albert Tourle: "Probably the most accurate account with regards Al Tourle's tragic death is found in Kevin Thomas's book 'Shadows in an African twilight '.Kevin did some extensive research on the incident and interviewed many of those involved as well as the aftermath and the reasons why the Lioness behaved as it did." I found that account online here: https://www.africahunting.com/threads/night-of-the-lioness.14782/ rgds, Barry _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Bart, On the 'Rhodesian Bush War' FB site, Terence King wrote the following, on the death of Lt. Albert Tourle: "Probably the most accurate account with regards Al Tourle's tragic death is found in Kevin Thomas's book 'Shadows in an African twilight '.Kevin did some extensive research on the incident and interviewed many of those involved as well as the aftermath and the reasons why the Lioness behaved as it did." I found that account online here: https://www.africahunting.com/threads/night-of-the-lioness.14782/ rgds, Barry

Dear Barry, Please delete//unsubscribe us from your mailing list Cheers Trevor -----Original Message----- From: Barry Brown <barry.brown@elisanet.fi> Sent: Tuesday, 12 March 2019 7:30 AM To: RW TPS <rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com>; Bart Simon <twzimboy@gmail.com> Subject: [TPS] Re: Off Topic: Service Records Alex Deere commented as follows: "Al was with a group of trainee trackers from the Trackers Training Wing and one evening in the foothills of the escarpment he and Sgt.Pete Clemence climbed onto a rock to check the trainees biviese were concealed they were jumped on by a lionesd who broke Al's neck with one swipe brfore bounding off.It was a great loss to me of a good friend and outstanding soldier. " Rgds, Barry _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/rhodesian-pioneers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community