This is from "A DIctionary of English and Welsh Surnames" by Charles Bardsley, printed in 1901, available on Ancestry.com. The following is all quoted from the dictionary until you reach the words "Note from Eleanor". Renshaw.-- Local 'of Ravenshaw,' some local but, I fear, lost spot in East Cheshire. The surname has ramified very strongly. The suffix is found alike as -shall and -shaw; cf. Henshall and Henshaw, Shallcross and Shawcross, in the same district. Ravenshaw means the shaw or wood belonging to Raven, an early personal name of much popularity (v. Rawnsley and Raven, and cf. Ravenscroft, a surname found in East Cheshire also). The full form ran alongside the abbreviated for a time. John Ravenshaw, of Walkerton, 1673: Wills at Chester (1660-80), p. 220. The first step towards the modern form was Rainshaw (cf. Rainow, formerly Ravenowe, a township in the parish of Priestbury). 1570 Bapt. -- Alice Raynshawe: Prestbury Ch. (Cheshire), p. 33. Sir Ralph Raynshae, vicar of Potte, 1548; East Cheshire, ii. 330. This same Ralph was buried at Presbury: 1561. Buried -- Sir Rauffe Renshae, preste: Prestbury Ch. (Cheshire), p. 6. Thus in two entries concerning the same individual we see the last stage practically reached. John Rainshaw, of Sale, 1647: Wills at Chester (1621-50), p. 180. John Renshaw, yeoman, of Mobberley, 1661: ibid. (1660-80), p. 221. John Renshall, of Sale, 1679: ibid. Ralph Renshall, of Mobberley, 1680: ibid. Richard Renshaw, of Sale, 1680: ibid. London, 10; Manchester, 28; MDB. (Cheshire), 4; Philadelphia, 14. Note from Eleanor: I assume the last line is the distribution of the name as found by the author, but the website does not state this. Other names in the dictionary which Mr. Bardsley sees as being derived from Raven are Ravenshear, Ramshire, Ravenswar, and Ramshaw. There is no mention of Rencher in the indexing, which seems curious, although there is an entry for Wrench. The author sees Olorenshaw as a different name from Renshaw, although it also occured in Prestbury where in at least one instance it was transcribed as Owlrenshaw and another time as Oulrenshawe. I do not believe the above derivations are universally accepted, but they are interesting. Eleanor

Does anyone know if Susan Rencher was also called Renshaw? I know there were Renshaws in Somerset Co., MD. See the following: The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 62 page 217 Miss Marie Louise Trader. DAR ID Number: 61628 Born in Somerset County, Md. Descendant of Lieut. John Horsey, of Maryland. Daughter of Levin White Trader and Matilda E. J. Horsey, his wife. Granddaughter of John L. Horsey and Susan Rencher, his wife. Gr-granddaughter of John Horsey and Amelia Leatherbury, his wife. John Horsey (1750-1810) served as lieutenant in Capt. Henry Miles' company of Maryland militia, 1778-79. He was born and died in Somerset County, Md. Eleanor

In a message dated 11/1/03 1:41:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, Egrdn@aol.com writes: > Does anyone know which line Keith Renshaw belongs to? > Well, this is scant info, but maybe a clue (particularly in light of our OK Renshaw cousins. From the 1930 Census: Gene K Renshaw, 3 months (census was taken 1 Apr so the age fits), born OK, father (Gene age 28) born OK, mother (Pauline age 18) born KS. On same page in different household are John, age 63, born IA, father born USA, mother born USA (oh how incredibly helpful <g>) and Jennie F, age 63, born OH, father born OH, mother born IN. There is no Keith listed in any state in the 1930 Census, so I searched on just the initial K and this is the only match returned that was remotely feasible. Again, no proof, but maybe someone recognizes this family and knows more?

Does anyone know which line Keith Renshaw belongs to? See story at http://www.fathermonty.org/silent.html Eleanor

Hi, My great grandparents are John William Renshaw (brother of Elizabeth Anna) and Mary Catherine Moyer. I would be glad to receive further information from you. Thanks Sandy djaquiss wrote: > Hi all, > > We can't join your DNA study because all of us are female for the last > several generations. But we have some pretty well documented descendancies > from Renshaw families in Bucks Co, PA, that moved to Montgomery Co, MD. Is > there any way we can find out about the results of this study? We may be > related to many of DNA study folks. It would be fun to know who and what > the degree of cousin -hood/-ship might be. > > Our direct line of descendant is: > > Thomas Renshaw > + Elizabeth Potts > F. Wm. Renshaw PA > + Mary Tomlinson Bucks Co, PA > Elizabeth Anna Renshaw MD & DC > + John G. Bohrer who were our 2x great grandparents. > > We have some pages of descendancy for this family. If anyone is related or > thinks they might be please do contact us and lets explore possible > connections. > > Would be happy to post our descendancy chart for the first several > generations, if anyone is interested. > > D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC > > ==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== > If you are new to the list,please consider to posting a short version of your line for all to view. One never knows when someone on this list may connected to your line!

Ours is a work in progress. Here's the first several generations of our Renshaw family as we now have it. If anyone has any further information about this family we would appreciate hearing from you on or off list. We hope to find out more about the antecedents of this family and to exchange information with others connected to this family in any way. 1. Thomas RENSHAW sp: Elizabeth POTTS 2. F. William RENSHAW (b.Abt 1792-Harrisonburg,PA;d.May 1863) sp: Mary TOMLINSON (b.29 Sep 1796-Bucks Co.,PA;m.Feb 1820;d.1886) 3. Henry RENSHAW (b.13 Apr 1821-MD;d.17 Feb 1897-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Mary S. SPATES (b.Abt 1833/1834-MD;m.3 Dec 1850;d.22 Jun 1864) sp: Eliza E. SPATES (b.6 Jun 1829-MD;m.9 Nov 1865;d.26 Jul 1903) 3. Charles RENSHAW (b.Abt 1820/1824-MD;d.Mar 1873-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Thomas RENSHAW (b.23 Oct 1823-MD;d.28 Oct 1902-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Anna (Annie) Maria SPATES (b.10 May 1834-MD;m.30 Jan 1862;d.29 Jan 1919-Alta Vista,Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Elizabeth Anna RENSHAW (b.Jan 1826-MD;d.11 Oct 1916-5100 Wisc Ave,N.W.,Washington D.C.) sp: John G. BOHRER (b.Jul 1816-MD;m.16 Oct 1850;d.25 Aug 1900-Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Martha E. RENSHAW (b.Abt 1836-MD;d.Feb 1904) sp: William M. HARDESTY (b.Abt 1836-MD;m.20 Oct 1864;d.Jan 1908) 3. (John) William RENSHAW (b.13 Jan 1837-MD;d.24 Mar 1918-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Emily Jane (Emma) HEFFNER (b.Abt 1860-Montgomery Co.,MD;m.9 Dec 1880;d.22 Oct 1881-Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Mary Catherine MOYER (b.17 Aug 1867-Luray,VA;m.8 Oct 1890;d.26 Dec 1946) 3. Samuel H. RENSHAW (b.Apr 1837-MD;d.3 Jul 1919-"Montrose",Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Alice Eva HUDDLESON (b.Dec 1856-MD;m.15 Mar 1877;d.14 Mar 1919-"Montrose",Montgomery Co.,MD) D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia & Stephen LaBrot To: djaquiss ; RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Renshaw] DNA Success Story What a great post!! And thank you "ladies" for your enthusiasm & support of the project. While many of us (females) are in the same boat, in that we can't participate in this particular DNA Test, our roles are non the less important, by providing research information, documentation etc! Your descendancy chart for the first several generations would be welcomed, and we appreciate your willingness to share. We're already finding that many of our lines (PA, IL, TN, NC, etc) are leading back to MD. Also watch for up & coming information about the DNA project, including a new website in the works. Pat LaBrot Co-Administrator, RENSHAW Surname DNA Project djaquiss <djaquiss@pressroom.com> wrote:

Since I don't want to violate anyone's privacy I am only posting this part of our descendancy. Here is the first few generations of our Renshaw work in progress: 1. Thomas RENSHAW sp: Elizabeth POTTS 2. F. William RENSHAW (b.Abt 1792-Harrisonburg,PA;d.May 1863) sp: Mary TOMLINSON (b.29 Sep 1796-Bucks Co.,PA;m.Feb 1820;d.1886) 3. Henry RENSHAW (b.13 Apr 1821-MD;d.17 Feb 1897-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Mary S. SPATES (b.Abt 1833/1834-MD;m.3 Dec 1850;d.22 Jun 1864) sp: Eliza E. SPATES (b.6 Jun 1829-MD;m.9 Nov 1865;d.26 Jul 1903) 3. Charles RENSHAW (b.Abt 1820/1824-MD;d.Mar 1873-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Thomas RENSHAW (b.23 Oct 1823-MD;d.28 Oct 1902-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Anna (Annie) Maria SPATES (b.10 May 1834-MD;m.30 Jan 1862;d.29 Jan 1919-Alta Vista,Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Elizabeth Anna RENSHAW (b.Jan 1826-MD;d.11 Oct 1916-5100 Wisc Ave,N.W.,Washington D.C.) sp: John G. BOHRER (b.Jul 1816-MD;m.16 Oct 1850;d.25 Aug 1900-Montgomery Co.,MD) 3. Martha E. RENSHAW (b.Abt 1836-MD;d.Feb 1904) sp: William M. HARDESTY (b.Abt 1836-MD;m.20 Oct 1864;d.Jan 1908) 3. (John) William RENSHAW (b.13 Jan 1837-MD;d.24 Mar 1918-Bethesda,Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Emily Jane (Emma) HEFFNER (b.Abt 1860-Montgomery Co.,MD;m.9 Dec 1880;d.22 Oct 1881-Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Mary Catherine MOYER (b.17 Aug 1867-Luray,VA;m.8 Oct 1890;d.26 Dec 1946) 3. Samuel H. RENSHAW (b.Apr 1837-MD;d.3 Jul 1919-"Montrose",Montgomery Co.,MD) sp: Alice Eva HUDDLESON (b.Dec 1856-MD;m.15 Mar 1877;d.14 Mar 1919-"Montrose",Montgomery Co.,MD) Hope it helps someone. If anyone has any connections or wants to share further information on this family please do contact us on or off list. D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia & Stephen LaBrot To: djaquiss ; RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Renshaw] DNA Success Story What a great post!! And thank you "ladies" for your enthusiasm & support of the project. While many of us (females) are in the same boat, in that we can't participate in this particular DNA Test, our roles are non the less important, by providing research information, documentation etc! Your descendancy chart for the first several generations would be welcomed, and we appreciate your willingness to share. We're already finding that many of our lines (PA, IL, TN, NC, etc) are leading back to MD. Also watch for up & coming information about the DNA project, including a new website in the works. Pat LaBrot Co-Administrator, RENSHAW Surname DNA Project djaquiss <djaquiss@pressroom.com> wrote: Hi all, We can't join your DNA study because all of us are female for the last several generations. But we have some pretty well documented descendancies from Renshaw families in Bucks Co, PA, that moved to Montgomery Co, MD. Is there any way we can find out about the results of this study? We may be related to many of DNA study folks. It would be fun to know who and what the degree of cousin -hood/-ship might be. Our direct line of descendant is: Thomas Renshaw + Elizabeth Potts F. Wm. Renshaw PA + Mary Tomlinson Bucks Co, PA Elizabeth Anna Renshaw MD & DC + John G. Bohrer who were our 2x great grandparents. We have some pages of descendancy for this family. If anyone is related or thinks they might be please do contact us and lets explore possible connections. Would be happy to post our descendancy chart for the first several generations, if anyone is interested. D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC

What a great post!! And thank you "ladies" for your enthusiasm & support of the project. While many of us (females) are in the same boat, in that we can't participate in this particular DNA Test, our roles are non the less important, by providing research information, documentation etc! Your descendancy chart for the first several generations would be welcomed, and we appreciate your willingness to share. We're already finding that many of our lines (PA, IL, TN, NC, etc) are leading back to MD. Also watch for up & coming information about the DNA project, including a new website in the works. Pat LaBrot Co-Administrator, RENSHAW Surname DNA Project djaquiss <djaquiss@pressroom.com> wrote: Hi all, We can't join your DNA study because all of us are female for the last several generations. But we have some pretty well documented descendancies from Renshaw families in Bucks Co, PA, that moved to Montgomery Co, MD. Is there any way we can find out about the results of this study? We may be related to many of DNA study folks. It would be fun to know who and what the degree of cousin -hood/-ship might be. Our direct line of descendant is: Thomas Renshaw + Elizabeth Potts F. Wm. Renshaw PA + Mary Tomlinson Bucks Co, PA Elizabeth Anna Renshaw MD & DC + John G. Bohrer who were our 2x great grandparents. We have some pages of descendancy for this family. If anyone is related or thinks they might be please do contact us and lets explore possible connections. Would be happy to post our descendancy chart for the first several generations, if anyone is interested. D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC

Hi all, We can't join your DNA study because all of us are female for the last several generations. But we have some pretty well documented descendancies from Renshaw families in Bucks Co, PA, that moved to Montgomery Co, MD. Is there any way we can find out about the results of this study? We may be related to many of DNA study folks. It would be fun to know who and what the degree of cousin -hood/-ship might be. Our direct line of descendant is: Thomas Renshaw + Elizabeth Potts F. Wm. Renshaw PA + Mary Tomlinson Bucks Co, PA Elizabeth Anna Renshaw MD & DC + John G. Bohrer who were our 2x great grandparents. We have some pages of descendancy for this family. If anyone is related or thinks they might be please do contact us and lets explore possible connections. Would be happy to post our descendancy chart for the first several generations, if anyone is interested. D. JAQUISS in the Montgomery Co, Maryland suburbs of Washington, DC

In my files I have several photocopied pages with information about Renshaws from "St. George's Parish Registers 1689-1793" by Bll and Martha Reamy. St. George's parish was in Baltimore County; I am not sure if it was in the part which later became Harford County. I would like to know the location of St. George's parish and also what religious denomination it represented. Was it Roman Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, .... ? Thanks! Eleanor Gordon

On Ancestry.com >From The Times Recorder, Zanesville, OH 31 March 1976 "George Renshaw has returned home after a visit in Louisville. Guests of Renshaw recently were his sons, Mr. and Mrs. John Ray Renshaw of New Martinsville, W. Va., and Mr. and Mrs. James Renshaw of Pennsylvania. They also visited Mrs. Renshaw's parents, Mr. and Mrs. Leonard Mobberly, and Jack." Does anyone know which Renshaw line the above family fits into? I had Renshaws in WV and in OH, so this could be my line, but I can't place it. Eleanor Gordon

The Renshaw Y-DNA Project is very pleased to announce that several previously-unlinked Renshaw lines are related! The DNA testing shows that we are certainly related and that we have a "fairly likely" certainty of sharing a common ancestor within the last fourteen generations, which is a maximum of 300 to 400 years and which may be much less. Further testing will probably help to pinpoint the generation of the most recent common ancestor more closely. Renshaw volunteers whose DNA matches include men from two Pennsylvania lines; two MD lines, one of which went to NC; a TN line; and an IL line. The researchers in these lines have been enthusiastically comparing notes and making charts, looking for points where the various Renshaw families might have intersected. Most of us are very excited to meet new Renshaw cousins and the emails have been flying. Laura Cordingley has volunteered to create a RenshawDNA website and we are overwhelming her with suggestions of what to put on the site. Brick walls, information about oldest known ancestors, naming patterns, family migration, and county boundary line changes are among the many suggestions about what should appear on the site. Laura, who has plenty of ideas of her own for the site as well, is going to start work on it next week. If you are interested in being part of the DNA project, contact Eleanor Gordon egrdn@aol.com or Pat LaBrot plabrot@swbell.net We are using Family Tree DNA to handle the testing. Their website is www.FTDNA.com The company offers a free video for download or by mail which explains the process. A donor has given us $300 to help defray testing expenses for volunteers who are financially unable to pay all or part of the cost of their tests. The donation will help us pay for 50% of six tests or 100% of three tests. Contact Pat or Eleanor at the emails above for more information.

The best I can do is Samuel Renshaw, living in Toledo. His son, Samuel E., was born in Ohio in 1902, but I can't find him in any records until his death somewhere in Ohio in 1991. Ted Rozmaryn Anderson, CA -----Original Message----- From: Tina Ellis [mailto:v_ellis@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:20 PM To: RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Renshaw] Renshaw in Ohio Hi everyone, Does anyone have any Renshaws, who lived in Niles, Ohio in 1943? Tina Ellis. ==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== If going on vacation, you may wish to unsubscribe to prevent mailbox overload: those subscribed in list mode send unsubscribe message to RENSHAW-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone, Does anyone have any Renshaws, who lived in Niles, Ohio in 1943? Tina Ellis.

Please excuse my poorly worded letter. I just read it. I can't believe how absent minded I am getting. I meant to say I have not found our link to these three families. We to do more searching, so we can connect our families. Tina At 01:38 PM 9/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I thought I should give you the news on the DNA test that my cousin Joe >Renshaw took. First of all, he was really pleased to have been asked to >do it. His main interest is in our American Indian heritage, so he jumped >at the opportunity. My family has always known we were Indian, but have >not been able to document it. I can't read the results so I have no idea >what the report means. I keep saying it's Greek to me, and I mean >it. It's going to take a while for all this DNA reading to penetrate this >brain. > >We were fortunate in that Joe matched with 3 Renshaws, who submitted >samples also. We are now exchanging information with them, but we still >do not see a connection. One of the them sent me her data to all of us, >and I see her Renshaw data goes back to the Harford County, MD and to >Rowan, NC. So this means Joe's and my family has probably been around for >a very long time in this country. I learned last night that the ancestor >in this Harford County, MD and Rowan, NC family was born in England was >born there about 1655. The first Renshaw born in this country was born >about 1687. > >Although I do not yet have a link to the family, it's nice to meet cousins >I did not know were my relatives. I guess some of them are even on this >mail list. > >Has anyone else received the results of their tests? Please let us know >what your have learned. How do you feel about the results? I can say I'm >glad Joe was willing to do this. My research is an intense thing with >me. I can't stand now to have an answer. I keep searching and searching >until I find them, but sometimes I don't think I will ever find the next >generation. This gives me renewed hope. > >Tina Ellis > > >==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== >If going on vacation, you may wish to unsubscribe to prevent mailbox >overload: those subscribed in list mode send unsubscribe message to >RENSHAW-L-request@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone, I thought I should give you the news on the DNA test that my cousin Joe Renshaw took. First of all, he was really pleased to have been asked to do it. His main interest is in our American Indian heritage, so he jumped at the opportunity. My family has always known we were Indian, but have not been able to document it. I can't read the results so I have no idea what the report means. I keep saying it's Greek to me, and I mean it. It's going to take a while for all this DNA reading to penetrate this brain. We were fortunate in that Joe matched with 3 Renshaws, who submitted samples also. We are now exchanging information with them, but we still do not see a connection. One of the them sent me her data to all of us, and I see her Renshaw data goes back to the Harford County, MD and to Rowan, NC. So this means Joe's and my family has probably been around for a very long time in this country. I learned last night that the ancestor in this Harford County, MD and Rowan, NC family was born in England was born there about 1655. The first Renshaw born in this country was born about 1687. Although I do not yet have a link to the family, it's nice to meet cousins I did not know were my relatives. I guess some of them are even on this mail list. Has anyone else received the results of their tests? Please let us know what your have learned. How do you feel about the results? I can say I'm glad Joe was willing to do this. My research is an intense thing with me. I can't stand now to have an answer. I keep searching and searching until I find them, but sometimes I don't think I will ever find the next generation. This gives me renewed hope. Tina Ellis

>From the NY Times of 31 Dec. 1884, page 8 Adelphic Lodge, No. 148, Knights of Phythias, has elected the following officers: ..... John Renshaw, Representative Does anyone know which John Renshaw this is? Eleanor Gordon

The Renshaw Surname DNA Project has attracted quite a bit of interest. So far we have signed up eight volunteers from various Renshaw lines and other Renshaws have inquired about the project. The company has mailed a kit to each volunteer via U.S. Mail; the kits are taking about a week to arrive. One volunteer has completed the DNA test and returned his kit. We should receive lab results for him within a month's time, which will be exciting, especially when we receive other results to compare it with. Note that personal privacy will be respected; we shall be comparing volunteers' samples only with respect to the Renshaw lines they represent. We shall not, for instance, state that John Renshaw's DNA matches Bob Renshaw's DNA. Instead we shall say that the volunteer from the James and Araminta Renshaw line matches that of the volunteer from the Harford County Renshaw line (I wish.) Patricia LaBrot has agreed to co-administer the DNA project with me. Thank you, Pat! I shall be traveling across country this autumn and Pat will be the point person while I am away as well as helping me field questions now. We do not as yet have any Renshaws signed up for the project from other countries although we would like to have some English, Irish, Australian, and New Zealand volunteers..... If you have any questions about the testing or wish to inquire about scholarships, email us as follows: Eleanor Gordon egrdn@aol.com Patricia LaBrot plabrot@swbell.net A big "thank you" again to our Renshaw volunteers! Eleanor

History of how the Montain was name Renshaw and lake also.? Gordon R in FL.

Anybody know the history ?. What RENSHAW"S?