Does anyone know who this George Renshaw is? My James Renshaw, b. 1781 in MD, named his eldest son, b. 1803, George. I had thought that perhaps James named him after George Washington, but the following shows a George Renshaw in MD in 1800: A petition from George Renshaw, of Harford county, praying the treasurer of the western shore may be authorised to give his bond credit for a debt due the state, which has been paid, for certain property purchased of the intendant, and that patent may issue for the same, was preferred, read, and referred to Mr. Montgomery, Mr. E. Davis and Mr. Bond, to consider and report thereon. Above is from the Maryland Archives Online Proceedings of the House of Delegates, 1800 Eleanor

Hello Gwen Thank you for getting in touch. I am afraid I have not got very far with my RENSHAWs as yet. Here is what I have so far: Grandmother: Mary Alice RENSHAW (1896-1966) G.Grandfather: William Josiah RENSHAW (1871- ) married Charlotte Delamore (1874 - ) Siblings: Henry 1856, Aaron 1859, Thomas 1861, Harriet, Alice Selina, Elizabeth. GG. Grandfather: William Renshaw ( 1832-1897 ) married Mary Smith (1833 - } All Birkenhead and Wirral area , Cheshire, England. I have just started to trawl through the Parish Registers in the hope of finding some more info. I will gladly post any RENSHAW info from the Parish registers to the list as and when I have it. Pauline

Could Frank from Canada, who contacted me about the above, please contact me again as I seem to have deleted the message in error. Pauline

This is from another mailing list. I tried it and it works. Eleanor The New York Times is online free until 15 December 2003 and then it will be gone. This isn't just the index but every page. It has the complete New York Times (including the classified) from 1851-2001. It works like this: First, go to http://riversideregionallibrary.org Second, click on "ProQuest Historical New York Times". Third, use the guest password here which is: welcome. Fourth, click on "ProQuest Historical New York Times" again. Fifth, you are now on the search screen - try it! On the same site there is Heritage Quest Online, 25,000 digitised family and local histories which can be searched by people, places, or publications. I noticed 1,547 pages of the Calendar of Lincoln Wills.

Thank you for this list Point taken about Ancestry being a commercial enterprise - I have periodically subscribed, but not for over a year or so and their holdings have obviously increased. Also 72 or so entries is also rather over the top to even think of someone typing out, let alone doing it. I am lucky though - your list includes several mentions of men I am interested in. And a by-product of the email is that UK RENSHAW researchers have become more active <g> Hi everyone. Thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <Egrdn@aol.com> To: <RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: [Renshaw] Renshaws in English Directories > The following information is found on Ancestry.com. There are at least six > dozen more entries from other English directories, mostly in the 1800's, which > Ancestry offers. I am not sure that it is right to "lift" all the information > from their fee site and post it on this free list, as Ancestry.com is > supported by the charges we pay. I suggest that those of you who are interested in > further directory listings subscribe to the U.K. information for a short period > of time, as the charge for one month is not exorbitant and there is a lot of > good information available. > >From Ancestry.com U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 > > Renshaw, John > Address: Liverpool > Date: 1738 Also listed on Ranelagh Street in 1766 > Occupation(s): roper, textiles(m)

Hi Tina Thank you for your information - as I have been researching for about 4 years I am familiar with many online resources and the "Surname Navigator" is a favourite. I already have much vital record and some census details for many of the RENSHAWs that I am interested in. I am trying to fill out the details and background to their lives - hence the interest in directory information. Thomas Charles RENSHAW QC (this signifies that he was a very senior barrister) 1810-1886 did a lot of excellent genealogical research into a number of families with whom we share descent but this lacks the background information to the "real" lives behind these names and dates. I am sorry - I probably should have outlined my background better in the first email. Anyway, thank you again Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina Ellis" <vcellis@jps.net> To: "History Search" <history.search@btopenworld.com>; <RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Renshaw] Renshaws in Directories > There is a website I like to use for European countries. It's call the > Surname Navigator: http://www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator/ They list the > United Kingdom as a search feature. They have the 1881 census and other > data listed. > > You can also search the archives of the Renshaw mail list. There has been > some data submitted in the past by list members. Go to this site: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and type in Renshaw, and > it will take you to the archives. > > Although most of us are in the US researching the Renshaw surname, our hope > is to be able to link with our cousins in the United Kingdom. Since most of > us have not been able to get across the ocean, we are still researching in > the US. This does not mean no one welcomes you to the list. I know we have > had members on the list from England and Canada and other countries. > > Tina Ellis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "History Search" <history.search@btopenworld.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 3:15 AM > > > Would it be possible to list the UK Renshaws too, please. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Egrdn@aol.com> > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:46 PM > > > > > The following list is alphabetical by first name and then chronological. > > > More information about the directories may be found on Ancestry.com. > Note that > > > the information below does not include the more than 25 names from early > > U.K. directories. > > > > > > >From Ancestry.com U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 > > > > > > Renshaw (Male) > > > Title(s): Captain > > > Address(es): 102, Hicks, Brooklyn, New York > > > Listed in Brooklyn Directory for the year 1830,

Same here, my Renshaws were in London Many thanks Sue -----Original Message----- From: History Search [mailto:history.search@btopenworld.com] Sent: Monday, 10 November 2003 12:16 a.m. To: RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Renshaw] Renshaws in Directories Would it be possible to list the UK Renshaws too, please. I am interested in Renshaws from Lancashire, Cheshire, Sussex, London and Scotland. Thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <Egrdn@aol.com> To: <RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [Renshaw] Renshaws in Directories > The following list is alphabetical by first name and then > chronological. More information about the directories may be found on > Ancestry.com. Note that > the information below does not include the more than 25 names from > early U.K. > directories. > > >From Ancestry.com U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 > > Renshaw (Male) > Title(s): Captain > Address(es): 102, Hicks, Brooklyn, New York > Listed in Brooklyn Directory for the year 1830, > ==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== If you are new to the list,please consider to posting a short version of your line for all to view. One never knows when someone on this list may connected to your line!

Dear list About a year ago I purchased some "time" at EnglishOrigins.com to do some searching on the Rencher surname... since no Rencher search is complete without searching Renshaw as well, this is what I collected. Transcribed from data purchased at EnglishOrigins.com. FACULTY OFFICE MARRIAGE LICENCE ALLEGATIONS INDEX (My note: These marriages are most likely from London...go to www.Englishorigins.com, enter the surname and you will get a list of records. Click on the title of the type of record (or "view results" )and a pop up page will explain what they are. THIS does not cost anything.) Surname: Renshaw from 1500-1900 25 Aug. 1704 Fuller, Thomas Renshaw , Mary 23 Dec 1708 Coleman, Joseph Renshaw, Milicent 24 Aug 1709 Stippetts, Thomas Renshaw, Sarah 30 Sept 1738 Renshaw, William Powell, Elizabeth 01 Apr 1771 Renshaw, Edm'd Instant, Mary 20 Jan 1787 Chassereau, Fra's Renshaw, Jane 01 Nov 1802 Ed'd Gru'y Woolnough Ann 17 Oct 1805 Ives, William Renshaw My'y Instant 14 Aug 1815 Renshaw, Joseph Renshaw, Eliz'th 20 Jul 1825 Renshaw, W'm G Wright, Ann 16 May 1831 Renshaw, Henry Grindy Renshaw, Mary 25 May 1832 Renshaw, Joseph Breden, Maria 14 Nov 1836 Renshaw, Edmund Willmott, Louisa 29 June 1838 Clare, Joseph Collis Renshaw, Mary Ann 15 Mar 1839 Renshaw, Joseph Keyes, Caroline Renshaws Apprentices Renshaw Joseph son of John, Birks Whitwell Derbyshire, gentleman, to Thomas Roffey, 3 Sept, 1685, Distillers Company Rose William, son of Thomas, Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, husbandman to William Wells, 1 May 1740 (16 Jan 1745/6 turned over to Roger Renshaw) Triplate Workers Company Renshaw Samuel, son of John, carpenter in HM Navy, to Thomas Spear, 13 Apr 1771 (10 apr 1772 turned over to William Debenham), Parvours Company This morning I did a quick pass through English Origins. Since the time I used it, they have expanded the records to 1442-1850 This is what they list for Renshaw(and all variant spellings..be sure to look at the drop down list...It has a BUNCH of variations!) Vicar-General marriage licence allegations (1694-1850) 24 records Faculty Office Marriage Licence Index (1701-1850) 21 records Boyds Marriage Index (1538-1840 574 records PCC Wills Index (1750-1800) 7 records London Apprenticeship Abstracts (1442-1850) 6 records There is also "IrishOrigins" and "ScotsOrigins" Hope this helps Bev

I have a great deal on the Renshaws from the Sheffield area, including Eckington, Staveley, Ridgeway, Geer Lane etc. I would be happy to share information with anyone with ancestors from these areas.

--------------Boundary-00=_3764H890000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_3764CJD0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_3764CJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Pauline, My name is Gwen, list administarator...Sorry I do not know you or anything about your . Thank you so much for sharing these records with the list. Perhaps you would like to share your own line with the list or with me privately, at mylhasa@charter.com. Please feel free to post your descendancy to the list.One never knows who might connect with your line. Gwen Renshaw Maurer -------Original Message------- From: Pauline Date: 11/9/2003 9:34:43 AM To: RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Renshaw] RENSHAW christenings St Peters Birkenhead England 1889-1900 Extracted from Parish Records St Peters Birkenhead 1889-1900 Baptized: 25/05/1890 Child: Ada Mother: Mary Jane Father: John Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Baptized: 25/07/1890 Child: Isabella Mother: Harriet Father: - Surname: Renshaw Abode: 8 Wilby Street Trade/profession: Single woman Baptized: 26/12/1891 Child: Florence Mary Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Baptized: 2/5/1892 Child: Henry Mother: Anne Ellen Father: Henry Surname: Renshaw Abode: 183 Beckwith Street Trade/profession: Labourer Baptized: 285/1892 Child: William Mother: Anne Ellen Father: Henry Surname: Renshaw Abode: 183 Beckwith Street Trade/profession: Labourer Baptized: 4/3/1894 Child: William John Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Stone Mason Baptized: 20/3/1898 Child: Lilian Coventry Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Stone Mason Baptized: 26/6/1900 Child: William Charles Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Pauline ==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== Roots Surname list-- interactive search: Good place to search for all your surnames, is at this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/rslsearch.html --------------Boundary-00=_3764CJD0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_3764H890000000000000--

Extracted from Parish Records St Peters Birkenhead 1889-1900 Baptized: 25/05/1890 Child: Ada Mother: Mary Jane Father: John Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Baptized: 25/07/1890 Child: Isabella Mother: Harriet Father: - Surname: Renshaw Abode: 8 Wilby Street Trade/profession: Single woman Baptized: 26/12/1891 Child: Florence Mary Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Baptized: 2/5/1892 Child: Henry Mother: Anne Ellen Father: Henry Surname: Renshaw Abode: 183 Beckwith Street Trade/profession: Labourer Baptized: 285/1892 Child: William Mother: Anne Ellen Father: Henry Surname: Renshaw Abode: 183 Beckwith Street Trade/profession: Labourer Baptized: 4/3/1894 Child: William John Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Stone Mason Baptized: 20/3/1898 Child: Lilian Coventry Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Stone Mason Baptized: 26/6/1900 Child: William Charles Mother: Sarah Jane Father: Thomas Surname: Renshaw Abode: 17 Dover Street Trade/profession: Mason Pauline

Referring to the messages from Chris and Sue, I realize that we are often somewhat U.S.-centric on this list. Looking at the Renshaw numbers for the every-name 1891 English census index and the every-name 1930 U.S. census index we find: 1891 English census 3,084 Renshaws 1930 U.S. census 2,215 Renshaws (FamilySearch is down at the moment, so I am unable to compare the numbers on the 1880 and 1881 censuses as I wished to do.) And of course there are Renshaws in other parts of the U.K. as well as Australia, Canada, and other countries..... Pauline just posted some good U.K. information and it would be great to have more of it. Personally, I'd like to see our non-US Renshaws post their family lines. Gwen, how about it -- can we do a roll call for the worldwide Renshaws? Following up on Tina's message, most of us in the U.S. would eventually like to cross the ocean and find the trail of our English forebears. For instance, my James Renshaw was born about 1781 in Maryland. Some of his descendants are described in at least three county histories to my knowledge. One history states that the line came from England, one declares that these Renshaws were from Ireland, and one indicates they were Scotch Irish. It's not much to go on, but one of these days I'll find a English/Irish/Scots Renshaw group to call cousin. Eleanor

The NY Times of 17 October 1854 gives a list of passengers on the steamship Baltic from Liverpool. Among the passenger was Lewis Renshaw. The NY Times of 8 Jan 1858 includes Hy Renshaw on a list of passengers on the steamship New York from Glasgow. Looking at English records, the name Hy Renshaw is not an error or a one-time occurrence. Ancestry.com shows Renshaw, Hy Spouse: Wolstonholme, Ann Marriage Date: 1785 Parish: St Boltolph Without Aldgate The 1891 census has seven males with the name Hy as either first name or middle name. I wonder if Hy is always an abbreviation for Henry or is a name in and of itself? NY Times 9 May 1859 The Rev. C. S. Renshaw and Miss Mary Renshaw on steamship Florida bound for Savannah NY Times 14 December 1865 In steamship City of Boston from Liverpool J. H. Renshaw Eleanor

The date of the NY Times citation about A. Renshaw should read 2 June 1852 The date of 12 December 1851 NY Times referred to a Supreme Court calendar for a case involving G.W. Parke vs Turner and Renshaw. No other useful data aside from attorneys' names is included in the citation. Eleanor

According to the New York TImes of Dec 12, 1851. p. 6 Democratic National Convention FIrst Day's Proceedings ....... The Committe on Credentials was then appointed as follows: ..... North Carolina, A. Renshaw

I'm with you Tina!......Would love to have some "outside of US" Renshaw DNA participants. In the meantime, I've been seeing some good messages on this Renshaw-L! While many of us are still researching US lines. (my oldest is John W. Renshaw, b. 1804, TN), it's exciting that some of you have already found connections back to England. I'd be interested in knowing more about the time period they came over. Maybe what we need is a "port call", of ANY known Renshaw that arrived in America...when and where? Sue, you said yours were from London....do you know when and where he/they came in? It would be great if eventually we had someone that could connect or "claim" some of these names that Eleanor and others are finding in various records. Pat Tina Ellis <vcellis@jps.net> wrote: What would be even more interesting is if some of our Renshaw researchers from other parts of the world could have a male Renshaw submit to a DNA test. How about it? Tina

What would be even more interesting is if some of our Renshaw researchers from other parts of the world could have a male Renshaw submit to a DNA test. How about it? Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: <Egrdn@aol.com> To: <RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: [Renshaw] Crunching numbers > Referring to the messages from Chris and Sue, I realize that we are often > somewhat U.S.-centric on this list. Looking at the Renshaw numbers for the > every-name 1891 English census index and the every-name 1930 U.S. census index we > find: > > 1891 English census 3,084 Renshaws > 1930 U.S. census 2,215 Renshaws > > (FamilySearch is down at the moment, so I am unable to compare the numbers on > the 1880 and 1881 censuses as I wished to do.) > > And of course there are Renshaws in other parts of the U.K. as well as > Australia, Canada, and other countries..... > > Pauline just posted some good U.K. information and it would be great to have > more of it. > > Personally, I'd like to see our non-US Renshaws post their family lines. > Gwen, how about it -- can we do a roll call for the worldwide Renshaws? > > Following up on Tina's message, most of us in the U.S. would eventually like > to cross the ocean and find the trail of our English forebears. For instance, > my James Renshaw was born about 1781 in Maryland. Some of his descendants > are described in at least three county histories to my knowledge. One history > states that the line came from England, one declares that these Renshaws were > from Ireland, and one indicates they were Scotch Irish. It's not much to go > on, but one of these days I'll find a English/Irish/Scots Renshaw group to call > cousin. > > Eleanor > > > ==== RENSHAW Mailing List ==== > Social security death index may be found at: > http://www.familytreemaker.com/fto_ssdisearch.html > >

After stating that perhaps I should not post extracts from Ancestry's fee-based databases on this mailing list, I have changed my mind for the following one-time entry. This is from Derbyshire History, Gazetteer, and Directory, 1857 • History Of The Borough Of Derby • "1732, March 23rd, John Hewitt and Rosamond Olerenshaw were executed for poisoning Hannah Hewitt, the wife of John Hewitt; they were executed in their shrouds." The above is particularly interesting to me because my husband's maternal grandfather was a Hewitt.... Eleanor

The following information is found on Ancestry.com. There are at least six dozen more entries from other English directories, mostly in the 1800's, which Ancestry offers. I am not sure that it is right to "lift" all the information from their fee site and post it on this free list, as Ancestry.com is supported by the charges we pay. I suggest that those of you who are interested in further directory listings subscribe to the U.K. information for a short period of time, as the charge for one month is not exorbitant and there is a lot of good information available. I have omitted descriptions of the directories in the following entries. Note that the information below does not include the names from U.S. directories which were posted to the list a few days ago. >From Ancestry.com U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 Renshaw, John Address: Liverpool Date: 1738 Also listed on Ranelagh Street in 1766 Occupation(s): roper, textiles(m) Renshaw (Male) Date: 1762 Occupation(s): cleric Clerical Office(s): Officiating Clerk of St. Mary le Bone Renshaw, Henry Address: Liverpool Date: 1763 Also listed on Dale street in 1766 Occupation(s): brazier, metal work Renshaw, Henry Address(es): 9 Dale Street, Liverpool Date: 1774 Occupation(s): brazier, metal work, pewterer, metal work Renshaw, Henry Address(es): No.9, Dale street, Liverpool Date: 1784 Occupation(s): brazier, metal work Renshaw (Male) Title(s): Reverend Address(es): Liverpool, Lancaster Date: 1786 Occupation(s): cleric Renshaw (Male) Address(es): Owthorpe Hall Date: 1787 Renshaw, Samuel Title(s): Reverend Address(es): Liverpool Date: 1795 Occupation(s): cleric(a) Renshaw, John Date: 1795 Renshaw, John Address(es): Liverpool Date: 1796 Renshaw, George Address(es): Paradise court, Manchester Date: 1781 Occupation(s): attorney, legal professions Renshaw, George Address(es): Fennell street, Manchester, Lancashire Date: 1784 Occupation(s): attorney, legal professions Renshaw, Richard Address(es): High street, Manchester Date: 1781 Also listed in 1784 Occupation(s): shag manufacturer, textiles, carpet manufacturer, textiles Renshaw, Thomas Address(es): Jear lane, Sheffield, Yorkshire Date: 1797 Occupation(s): sickle smith, tool making Renshaw, Sam. Title(s): Reverend Address(es): Liverpool Date: 1798 Education: A.M. Occupation(s): cleric Renshaw, E.(Male) Address(es): South Shields Date: 1812 Renshaw, R. (Male) Title(s): Esq. Address(es): Nottingham Date: 1822 Renshaw, John Title(s): Esquire Address(es): Manchester Date: 1833 Renshaw, H. G. (Male) Also listed as Henry Address(es): 9, Rosemary lane, London Date: 1790 Occupation(s): ware house for wearing apparel, clothing, wholesale Renshaw, H. G. (Male) Address(es): 9, Sparrow Corner, Minories, London Date: 1791 Occupation(s): sales man, commerce Renshaw (Male) Address(es): No.10, Islington road, London Date: 1789 Also listed in 1790 Occupation(s): timber merchant, wood/furniture/carriage trades Renshaw, William Address(es): Altrincham, Cheshire Date: 1784 Occupation(s): mercer, textiles Renshaw, John Title(s): gentleman Address(es): 11 Church Street, Liverpool Date: 1774 Renshaw, John Address(es): Plume of Feathers, Cock gates, Manchester Date: 1773 Renshaw, John Address(es): 2, Moor street, Birmingham Date: 1800 and 1801 Occupation(s): pawn broker, commerce, sales man, commerce Renshaw, G. Henry Address: 8, Sparrow cor. Tower hill Date: 1790

Would it be possible to list the UK Renshaws too, please. I am interested in Renshaws from Lancashire, Cheshire, Sussex, London and Scotland. Thank you Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: <Egrdn@aol.com> To: <RENSHAW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [Renshaw] Renshaws in Directories > The following list is alphabetical by first name and then chronological. > More information about the directories may be found on Ancestry.com. Note that > the information below does not include the more than 25 names from early U.K. > directories. > > >From Ancestry.com U.K. and U.S. Directories, 1680-1830 > > Renshaw (Male) > Title(s): Captain > Address(es): 102, Hicks, Brooklyn, New York > Listed in Brooklyn Directory for the year 1830, >