This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.reid/2415.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Right now, I'm doing some 'shotgun research' the Reid line in that area and time (SR being defined as shooting at anything that moves and hoping some of what you hit might be what you wanted). I *suspect* without haveing sufficient data that your Reuben is connected to mine. My Reids were in the Pendleton/Spartanbug/Greenville area from at least the 1790's to the 1880's, with the line running: William Reid 1746-1793 -Thomas Reid 1770-1830 --Reuben Reid ~1800-~1880 ---Randal Reid 1820-1897 It's generally assumed that the father of William is Joseph ~1719-?, but I haven't seen source data confirming this at the current time. 'My' Reuben isn't yours, but the timing and proximity suggests a relationship. Also, Joseph is supposed to have been born in Scotland (again -- I've seen no sources). Continuing in the no-source vein, William is supposed to be a brother of the 'Nathaniel Reid' who is fairly well documented. In trying to find sources for Joseph, I collected the following records from various books of legal & deed records in Pendleton, S.C. The first concerns a Joseph Reid, about the right age to be your Reuben's father, with a son named George, who is likely his eldest, as the note where he sells land to his son is dated 1793, but isn't recorded until 1800 (I'm assuming its something of a pseudo-will. Possibly along the lines of give me $150 now, and you can have the land when I'm dead). He also has a son named Joseph as he's listed as 'Sr' and 'Jr' witnesses the note. His son George died in 1832, so was around long enough for your Jesse, b. 1824 to have known him, but would be dead by the time this book was written. Considering George's children likely died about 20-30 years after him, they would probably have been dead by the time Jesse was 38. Again -- this seems reasonable. One of the deed records below is actually for the Nathaniel Reid mentioned above (I *belive*). What's interesting is that the land he is selling is noted to have been granted to him by William 'Moutrie' in 1793. William Moultrie *also* granted land to Joseph Reid around 1793 in the same area at the same time. If I were the type to make guesses based on too little evidence, I would hypothesize that Nathaniel and Joseph listed in the deeds were brothers. Once more with the sourceless speculation, this would make that Joseph, Nathaniel, and William all sons of Joseph who was born in Scotland, with the expanded tree being: (PLEASE DON'T ANYONE PUT THIS IN AN ONLINE TREE BECAUSE IT'S GUESSWORK!!!) Joseph Reid b~1720 -Joseph Reid 174? - ~1799 --George Walker Reid --Reuben Reid 1785 - ? ---Jesse Reid 1824 - ? ----Washington Irving Reid --Joseph Reid --Jesse Reid --Blincoe Reid -Nathaniel Reid 1744 - 1798 --Edith Reid --... -William Reid 1746 - 1793 --Thomas Reid --... Anyway -- make of it what you will. It's all speculation. ====================================================== "I, Joseph Reed (Called Sr. in the oath) for $150 sold to George Walker Reed (also Read) 50 acres on N. Side of Tugalo River, part of a tract granted Joseph Reed by Wm. Moultrie, 2 Dec. 1793. Wit: David Sloan, Obediah Trimmer. Joseph Reed, Jr. (not listed as witness) made oath to John Vernor, 9 Nov. 1799. Rec: 5 Jan. 1800." "23 Apr. 1795. Joseph Reed to Charles Stevens for (pound) 50 stg. for 201 acres on Little Beaver Dam Creek, bd. on NW by Aquilla Grurand, on SW by the Tugaloo River, on other by vacant land, granted to Reed by William Milwee, Esq. on 2 Dec. 1793. Wit: Thomas Farrar, David McCaleb. David McCaleb made oath to J. B. Earle, J. P., 24 Apr. 1794. Rec: 27 Apr. 1795." "21 Mar 1795. Joseph Reid of Pendleton Co., to Joseph Roberts, Jr., of Elbert Co, Ga., for (pound)5 stg. for 150 acres on branch of Savanah River, in Pendleton Co., part of 200 acres granted to Samuel(?) Love, conveyed from him to John Newman(?), then to Joseph Roberts Sr., the other 50 acres to James Cox, bd. on NW by John Newman, on SW by Thomas Shockley and James Cox. Signed: Joseph (his mark) Roberts. Wit: Edward T. McClure, James Tate, Jr., Saml. Tate. Edward Tate McClure made oath to Joshua Saxon, J. P., 28 Mar 1795. Rec. 21 Mar 1796" "11 Jan. 1798(?) Nathaniel Reed to Robert Wilson for (pound)33 for 100 acres surveyed for Reed 7 Aug. 1792 in 96 Dist., part of 223 acres granted by Wm. Moutrie, recorded Bk. T (or F), nop. 5, p. 235. Signed: Nathaniel (X) Reed. Wit: Samuel Bodston, John (X) Head. John Head made oath to Joseph Reed, J. P., 16 Mar 1798. Rec: 25 Nov 1805." "Joseph Reed and George Miller(?) Read sold to Robert Hackett(?) 151 acres on branch of N. side of Tugalo River, part of 200 acres granted Joseph Read by Wm. Moultrie, 2 Dec 1799.(?) Date: 13 Nov. 1801. Wit: Obediah TRrimmer, Jesse Stribling, John McMillion. Jesse Stribling made oath to John Harris, JP, 6 Apr. 1802. Rec: 10 Mar 1802." "Will of George W. Reed Land whereon I live on Tugaloo to wife Amy in conjunction and common use with my sons that now reside with me: Jesse, George B., Moses and Joseph Benjamin Reed. Youngest son Benjamin is under 21. Daughter Elizabeth Reed. Daughter Rhoda Reed. Daughter Nancy Reed. These daughters unmarried. Son Toliver Reed living in the state of Georgia. Daughter Rachel Dyer. Daughter Amy Salmon. Son Jesse Reed to be executor. Dated 19, Nov. 1831. Wit.: Abraham Coffin, Hartwell Jones, Wm. King (Signed) George W. Reed Proven 4 June, 1832."