I called the FTDNA and she said go to this url and it will pull it up at the bottom where you sign up . It only shows this pricing when you sign up for a surname project. Now if you order the kit personally outside the Reeves project you can only get the 12 ; 37 etc. You do get a good break in pricing when you are a part of a group project. _Pricing_ (https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=S73785&special=true) _https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=S73785&special=true_ (https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=S73785&special=true) The 25 markers is still $148.00+$2.00 shipping. So our offer is still the same. I hope they don't go up in price for the projects. Beulah Beulah Reeves McCain Reeves List Manager Bgr520@aol.com Reeves DNA site _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reevesdna/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~reevesdna/) Barry Reeves Web Master ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.