In a message dated 11/13/2000 3:06:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > PS to Barb: Did you mean in your statement quoted above that all the other > Rivis/Revis, (IN THE UK) as so far have proven to be no relation to ours (IN > THE US)?? If so does this commit us to the "Edward-1 name-change theory"? **short ans YES All my words seem still not to clarify what I wanted to express; ie accd to all Edward-1 research to date, no proof of any connection to ANY RIVES...meaning Ryves (since the family name was changed by act of parliament). REVIS of course is part of the REAVIS lineage, in that many of the orig Edw-1 family have used the name Revis, and those have been readily connected to the lineage of Edward-1. Thus the early use of Rivis in records..I guess would be phonetic ie sound crevice/Revice; as were Reviss, Revice, Re v v is; Reaves sometimes found( prob because the dot on the '"i" was not clear), etc; esp in light of the fact that the sig- natures we have accumulated frm the first 2-3 generations are generally REAVIS. It is the consideration of Edward-1 researchers that he created the name Reavis (even though we find it spelled many various ways in records frm 1721 to date), and that his original surname was either Ashley or Cooper. I am a latecomer to this theory, was sure had proved otherwise, but naught! Why else have we been able to trace and connect all to lineage of Edward-1? My point was that my database contains not just people with spellings of Reavis/Revis; but that all are connected to Edward-1. (I also have prob 100 families, separate, researching for connection). There are many yet not found, especially the female family members. We have pointed out the only other Revis families in the US and the two early ones do not connect to our lineage. And they in fact do not have, if any, male descendants. As for Revis in the UK, I have no knowledge. Had thought for sure ours was frm London area, but seems not. Spellings there seem to be as var- ied. The other two Revis' families came much later in the 1800's. Then we have the probable sister of Edward-1, Frances; was her name also changed? But then we have no documentation that Frances who married Thos. Alley(who obtained with "Edward Rivis" the 400 acre Royal Patent) was in fact sis of Edw-1. Yet this Edward indeed seems to be our Edward-1. Why was the name Rivis and Revis found/used in Va records, and then in NC Reaves/Reavise/Reavis? Still a lot of unknowns. Sorry if did not express myself satisfactorily. *Barb