I would like to respond to the questions raised regarding John ROSE and his son, Martyn ROSE. Do you have evidence that John Rose was born in 1619? I have his birth year as (about) 1638. He died 17 Apr 1697. John ROSE was s/o Robert and Dorothy ROSE. John ROSE's will, dated 4 May 1696, mentions his son, Martyn (Martin). John ROSE's son, Martyn, must have been born before 1686; otherwise, he would have been only 13 years old when he married Sarah HOWELL in 1699. Sarah HOWELL, d/o Richard HOWELL, b. ca 1682, Southampton, d. 1729, bur. Water Mill, L.I. Martyn and Sarah (HOWELL) ROSE's daughter, Sarah ROSE, d. June 1735. She married 1701 at Southampton, James Haines. Based on the above information, it seems logical that Martyn ROSE was s/o John ROSE. Stuart -- Stuart Howell showell@ttlc.net