Thanks again Rod for your reply.....now maybe we will see others as well, and I will have to check out Rootsweb gen maillists to see if there is a RAYNER as I did not think there was......Happy Trails, Joan Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Coraki99@aol.com> To: <RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [RAYNOR] Anyone else on this list looking for RAYNER from Eng toUS in mi... > In a message dated 01/29/2000 6:15:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > crystalwoman@in-tch.com writes: > > << Any other data though would be helpful to me. And just wondered if there > was anyone else here searching RAYNER. >> > > Hi crystalwoman > > I'm on this list and my RAYNER's are from Cambridge England, > Descendants of William RAYNER > > 1 William RAYNER > . +Mary . > ....... 2 Richard RAYNER > ....... 2 Abraham RAYNER > ....... 2 Samuel RAYNER d: May 11, 1867 in Meldreth, Cambridge, England > .......... +Sarah JARMAN d: May 06, 1872 in Melbourn, Cambridge, > England > ................ 3 Joseph RAYNER > ................ 3 John RAYNER > ................... +Sarah FARRANT > ................ 3 Elizabeth RAYNER d: September 07, 1900 in > Southgate, N.S.W., Australia > ................... +John LEE d: March 18, 1902 in Southgate, N.S.W., > Australia > ................ 3 Susan RAYNER > > > Rod > coraki99@aol.com > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > For information on subscribing, unsubscribing, rules, etc. Please visit the following URL: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Thank you for your reply.....I know from doing genealogy for a long time that all names have variations. I did not know Rootsweb was keeping them seperated on the email lists. I had not noted a RAYNER email list.....I will have to check then. I joined here because I did know of the RAYNOR surname on LI and being the RAYNER bros may have come into NY Port and stayed awhile in the area while awaiting citizenship. Who knows at this point they have been recorded as RAYNOR and not as my father-in-law insists as RAYNER, thus being why I cannot find them anywhere, so that is why I joined the RAYNOR list to check all paths of research. Thanks, Happy Trails, Joan Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karima" <quest@springnet1.com> To: <RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:38 AM Subject: [RAYNOR] The RAYNOR Sunmane - variant spellings > Good morning! > > Regarding the variations of the spelling of the name. > > The following is an explanation by Gerald Van Sise Raynor, Raynor Family > Genealogist (Edward Raynor Branch), as to the various spellings of the > name: > > "Do not put much stock into signature spelling variations. I have many > old documents from 1761 – 1825, etc. In the same family, you might find > RANER, RYENER, REYNOR, and RAINER. If the signer could not write his > name, then the scribe used his own judgment. I've even seen RHEGNIER". > Robert, our first known family member signed his will REYNERE. That is > the only time I have ever seen an "e" on the end. > > "In general, though, RAINER and REYNER show up in early documents. By > the time the Revolutionary War was over the spelling that was most often > used was RAYNOR or sometimes RAYNER." > ====================================================== > > I have tried to convince RootsWeb to combine the different spellings of > this name into one list, but apparently there is disagreement as to the > "Correct" way to spell our surname and since no one will agree, they > intend to keep the lists separate. > > My best advice would be to join all of the variant lists, since I cannot > combine them. > > Hope this helps, > > Karima > mailto:quest@springnet1.com > =========================================== > THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > > List Administrator of: > RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > GRAMMER Surname Discussion List (GRAMMER-L) > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/GrammerMailingListWelcome.htm > > Jackson County, Illinois Discussion List (ILJACKSO-L) > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/JacksonCoWelcome.htm > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > Visit the RAYNOR Family Web Site at: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > If you would like to submit information on your RAYNOR ancestors to be included on this site, > please contact Karima at mailto:quest@springnet1.com > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > 12.8 million individuals and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Thank you for that RAYNER line, and will keep it for reference. Did any come to US at all that you know? thanks, Joan Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Coraki99@aol.com> To: <RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [RAYNOR] Anyone else on this list looking for RAYNER from Eng toUS in mi... > In a message dated 01/29/2000 6:15:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > crystalwoman@in-tch.com writes: > > << Any other data though would be helpful to me. And just wondered if there > was anyone else here searching RAYNER. >> > > Hi crystalwoman > > I'm on this list and my RAYNER's are from Cambridge England, > Descendants of William RAYNER > > 1 William RAYNER > . +Mary . > ....... 2 Richard RAYNER > ....... 2 Abraham RAYNER > ....... 2 Samuel RAYNER d: May 11, 1867 in Meldreth, Cambridge, England > .......... +Sarah JARMAN d: May 06, 1872 in Melbourn, Cambridge, > England > ................ 3 Joseph RAYNER > ................ 3 John RAYNER > ................... +Sarah FARRANT > ................ 3 Elizabeth RAYNER d: September 07, 1900 in > Southgate, N.S.W., Australia > ................... +John LEE d: March 18, 1902 in Southgate, N.S.W., > Australia > ................ 3 Susan RAYNER > > > Rod > coraki99@aol.com > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > For information on subscribing, unsubscribing, rules, etc. Please visit the following URL: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Good morning! Regarding the variations of the spelling of the name. The following is an explanation by Gerald Van Sise Raynor, Raynor Family Genealogist (Edward Raynor Branch), as to the various spellings of the name: "Do not put much stock into signature spelling variations. I have many old documents from 1761 – 1825, etc. In the same family, you might find RANER, RYENER, REYNOR, and RAINER. If the signer could not write his name, then the scribe used his own judgment. I've even seen RHEGNIER". Robert, our first known family member signed his will REYNERE. That is the only time I have ever seen an "e" on the end. "In general, though, RAINER and REYNER show up in early documents. By the time the Revolutionary War was over the spelling that was most often used was RAYNOR or sometimes RAYNER." ====================================================== I have tried to convince RootsWeb to combine the different spellings of this name into one list, but apparently there is disagreement as to the "Correct" way to spell our surname and since no one will agree, they intend to keep the lists separate. My best advice would be to join all of the variant lists, since I cannot combine them. Hope this helps, Karima mailto:quest@springnet1.com =========================================== THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm List Administrator of: RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm GRAMMER Surname Discussion List (GRAMMER-L) http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/GrammerMailingListWelcome.htm Jackson County, Illinois Discussion List (ILJACKSO-L) http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/JacksonCoWelcome.htm

Hi-I joined this list thinking RAYNER's would also be looked for. I have no idea if they are connected to RAYNOR yet as we have very little on them. The story we know from oral family history is there were 4 bros coming from Eng to US in search for gold. 2 were supposed to have gone to Canada and other 2 settled in CA while looking for gold. I have not found them on a ship passenger list yet, and supposed at least 2 of them were to have gone around Cape Horn to CA. That was some trip ca.1850..... Anyhow, I had found note of 4 RAYNER's getting their Citizenship papers around mid-1800's in Philadelphin PA and need to follow up on that to see if that is them. Any other data though would be helpful to me. And just wondered if there was anyone else here searching RAYNER. I remember some of the references to RAYNOR's on LI, as I was born ca.1947 and raised in Suffolk Co, LI and moved away in mid 1986. I remember RAYNOR's Beach on Lake Ronkonkoma, a great place in the 50's and early 60's to go. Happy Trails, Joan in rural MT Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com

Only info i have is that George's father passed while he was young and mother remarried into Hickom family union co..1half brother Tom Hickom 2half sisters bessie and lowe married into grammer family of Murphysboro IL.jackson co...and that he and Ruth married 1910-1911 with 15 children 13 reaching aduldhood 6 remain living.. -----Original Message----- From: Goshmetwo@aol.com <Goshmetwo@aol.com> To: RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com <RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [RAYNOR] looking for relatives >Danny > >What dates do you have for George Raynor? I think he may be of the same >family as Martha (Raynor) Norton of Alto Pass but do not know the exact >connection (possible nephew?) at this time without some additional checking. >Martha (Mattie) was born in Illinois - but apparently just after her parents >came from TN as another sister was born in TN 5 years before Martha's birth. > > >==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== >Visit the RAYNOR Family Web Site at: >http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm >If you would like to submit information on your RAYNOR ancestors to be included on this site, >please contact Karima at mailto:quest@springnet1.com > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

looking for infom on George and Ruth (Hancock)Raynor..Married 1910-1911..Maternal GrGrandparents Edward Lewis and Amy(Walker) of Alto Pass Il. in Union co..Paternal GrGrandparent no iinfo other than GrGrandfather passed while George was young and GrGrandmother remarried into Hickom family.. 1 half brother Tom Hickom and 2 half sisters Bessie and Lowe married into the Grammer family of Murphysboro IL.of Jackdon co...if anyone has info it would be greatly apprciatied...15children born of George and Ruth with 13 reaching adulthood..

In a message dated 1/29/00 1:48:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, quest@springnet1.com writes: << "In general, though, RAINER and REYNER show up in early documents. By the time the Revolutionary War was over the spelling that was most often used was RAYNOR or sometimes RAYNER." >> Down in Georgia it is usually spelled RINER. Carol Riner Everett

In a message dated 01/29/2000 7:27:09 PM !!!First Boot!!!, crystalwoman@in-tch.com writes: << Date: 01/29/2000 7:27:09 PM !!!First Boot!!! From: crystalwoman@in-tch.com (crystalwoman) Reply-to: RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com To: RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com Thanks again Rod for your reply.....now maybe we will see others as well, and I will have to check out Rootsweb gen maillists to see if there is a RAYNER as I did not think there was......Happy Trails, Joan Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com >> Hi again I did not see a Rayner list when I first joined this list but I just checked found and Joined Rod coraki99@aol.com

In a message dated 1/29/00 12:25:47 PM EST, peppermint@granitecity.com writes: << while George was young and GrGrandmother remarried into Hickom family.. >> Think this "Hickom" family is actually "Hickam".

In a message dated 01/29/2000 6:55:00 PM !!!First Boot!!!, crystalwoman@in-tch.com writes: << Thank you for that RAYNER line, and will keep it for reference. Did any come to US at all that you know? thanks, Joan Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com >> The only one that I know of is my self not a Rayner, but a descendant I came from Australia in 1973 My ancestor Elizabeth Rayner Lee son Charles Lee his son William Lee, daughter of William and my mother Clarice Lee Kennedy Rod coraki99@aol.com

In a message dated 01/29/2000 6:15:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!, crystalwoman@in-tch.com writes: << Any other data though would be helpful to me. And just wondered if there was anyone else here searching RAYNER. >> Hi crystalwoman I'm on this list and my RAYNER's are from Cambridge England, Descendants of William RAYNER 1 William RAYNER . +Mary . ....... 2 Richard RAYNER ....... 2 Abraham RAYNER ....... 2 Samuel RAYNER d: May 11, 1867 in Meldreth, Cambridge, England .......... +Sarah JARMAN d: May 06, 1872 in Melbourn, Cambridge, England ................ 3 Joseph RAYNER ................ 3 John RAYNER ................... +Sarah FARRANT ................ 3 Elizabeth RAYNER d: September 07, 1900 in Southgate, N.S.W., Australia ................... +John LEE d: March 18, 1902 in Southgate, N.S.W., Australia ................ 3 Susan RAYNER Rod coraki99@aol.com

Looking for the parents of Alice P. Raynor b.1861 d. 1930 in Itawamba County, MS. Alice married: Mason M. Walker and is buried at Kirkville Cemetery in Itawamba County, MS. Any help on Alice's parents, & siblings would be helpful. Thank you, Karen

Hi Wilma - I do not have information on Thurston Raynor's daughters, but the noted genealogist, Donald Lines Jacobus, had this to say about Abigail Raynor and John Scott in his article, "Raynor Notes - Long Isand," which appeared in the AMERICAN GENEALOGIST: "Abigail m. before 1667, John Rose, b. ca 1638, d. 17 Apr 1697, son of Robert and Dorothy Rose. We simply do not know how many times John Rose married, but his will dated 4 May 1696 names sons John, William and Martin, who seem to have received their portions, sons David and Thomas (wife Abigail is called their mother), son James, and daughter Hannah (under 18) (William S. Pelletreau, 'EARLY LONG ISLAND WILLS,' 150-153). Since his wife in 1667 was a daughter of Thurston Raynor, she was quite likely Abigail, and probably mother of Hannah (b. after 1678) as well as of David and Thomas. If the Raynor wife was mother of all the children, she would be nearer the age of John Rose, and may have been the eldest child of Thurston by Martha." Hope this helps. Stuart -- Stuart Howell showell@ttlc.net

Wilma wrote: > This site is very nice, the pictures are great... but where are the children > of Thurston listed.. Is there data on Thurston's parents? > > Thank you very much > > Wilma Fleming Haynes 9th gr granddaughter of Thurston > gencon@harborside.com > Hi Wilma - My book, THE RAYNORS OF KETCHAPONACK, is being added to the Raynor web site so all who are interested may readily access the information about Thurston Raynor, his forebears, and some of his descendants. In the meantime, if you have specific questions about individuals, let me know and I shall try to answer them. Stuart > > > > > If you have not already done so, I'd like to invite you to visit our > > RAYNOR FAMILY Web Site. > > > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > > > > You might find information pertinent to your search there and at the > > very least, learn a bit about the history of the RAYNOR family. > > > > Information is being added almost daily and so even if you have already > > visited the site, you might want to revisit it. I have just added a > > section based on newspaper clippings from the 1940s pertaining to the > > history of Freeport, Long Island (Formerly known as Raynor South and > > then Raynortown and now Freeport). > > > > > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorHistoricalFreeportIndex.htm > > > > I would like to encourage any of our members who have obituaries, > > biographical sketches, wills and probate records, wedding information, > > newspaper clippings, photographs, etc., to join us in posting that > > information on the web site. > > > > You can get an idea of the kind of information we are putting together > > by visiting the site. One thing I want to emphasize is that YOU will > > retain the ownership and copyright for any and all information provided > > by you and added to the web site. Also anything sent to me for > > inclusion on the site will be scanned and returned to you the following > > day. > > > > We would love to have your suggestions and impressions of the site, so > > please visit it when you can. > > > > Best wishes, > > Karima > > mailto:quest@springnet1.com > > =========================================== > > THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > > > > List Administrator of: > > RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > > > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > > For information on subscribing, unsubscribing, rules, etc. Please visit > the following URL: > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > For information on subscribing, unsubscribing, rules, etc. Please visit the following URL: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi -- Stuart Howell showell@ttlc.net

This site is very nice, the pictures are great... but where are the children of Thurston listed.. Is there data on Thurston's parents? Thank you very much Wilma Fleming Haynes 9th gr granddaughter of Thurston gencon@harborside.com > > If you have not already done so, I'd like to invite you to visit our > RAYNOR FAMILY Web Site. > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > > You might find information pertinent to your search there and at the > very least, learn a bit about the history of the RAYNOR family. > > Information is being added almost daily and so even if you have already > visited the site, you might want to revisit it. I have just added a > section based on newspaper clippings from the 1940s pertaining to the > history of Freeport, Long Island (Formerly known as Raynor South and > then Raynortown and now Freeport). > > > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorHistoricalFreeportIndex.htm > > I would like to encourage any of our members who have obituaries, > biographical sketches, wills and probate records, wedding information, > newspaper clippings, photographs, etc., to join us in posting that > information on the web site. > > You can get an idea of the kind of information we are putting together > by visiting the site. One thing I want to emphasize is that YOU will > retain the ownership and copyright for any and all information provided > by you and added to the web site. Also anything sent to me for > inclusion on the site will be scanned and returned to you the following > day. > > We would love to have your suggestions and impressions of the site, so > please visit it when you can. > > Best wishes, > Karima > mailto:quest@springnet1.com > =========================================== > THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm > > List Administrator of: > RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > > ==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== > For information on subscribing, unsubscribing, rules, etc. Please visit the following URL: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Dear Raynor Cousins, If you have not already done so, I'd like to invite you to visit our RAYNOR FAMILY Web Site. http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm You might find information pertinent to your search there and at the very least, learn a bit about the history of the RAYNOR family. Information is being added almost daily and so even if you have already visited the site, you might want to revisit it. I have just added a section based on newspaper clippings from the 1940s pertaining to the history of Freeport, Long Island (Formerly known as Raynor South and then Raynortown and now Freeport). http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorHistoricalFreeportIndex.htm I would like to encourage any of our members who have obituaries, biographical sketches, wills and probate records, wedding information, newspaper clippings, photographs, etc., to join us in posting that information on the web site. You can get an idea of the kind of information we are putting together by visiting the site. One thing I want to emphasize is that YOU will retain the ownership and copyright for any and all information provided by you and added to the web site. Also anything sent to me for inclusion on the site will be scanned and returned to you the following day. We would love to have your suggestions and impressions of the site, so please visit it when you can. Best wishes, Karima mailto:quest@springnet1.com =========================================== THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm List Administrator of: RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm

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Dear Raynor Cousins, If you have not already done so, I'd like to invite you to visit our RAYNOR FAMILY Web Site. http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm You might find information pertinent to your search there and at the very least, learn a bit about the history of the RAYNOR family. Information is being added almost daily and so even if you have already visited the site, you might want to revisit it. I have just added a section based on newspaper clippings from the 1940s pertaining to Freeport, Long Island (Formerly known as Raynor South and then Raynortown and now Freeport). http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorHistoricalFreeportIndex.htm I would like to encourage any of our members who have obituaries, biographical sketches, wills and probate records, wedding information, newspaper clippings, photographs, etc., to join us in posting that information on the web site. You can get an idea of the kind of information we are putting together by visiting the site. One thing I want to emphasize is that YOU will retain the ownership and copyright for any and all information provided by you and added to the web site. Also anything sent to me for inclusion on the site will be scanned and returned to you the following day. We would love to have your suggestions and impressions of the site, so please visit it when you can. Best wishes, Karima mailto:quest@springnet1.com =========================================== THE RAYNOR FAMILY WEB SITE http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm List Administrator of: RAYNOR Surname Discussion List (RAYNOR-L http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/RaynorListWelcome.htm

i'm guessing around the mid to late 1800's..George married Ruth early 1900's when she was around 13yrs old.. He and two of my aunts are buried at the cemetary on the big hill in Alto Pass..I don't remember the name of the cemetary..Greatgrandparents are buried there also Edward Lewis and Amy Handcock..These were my grandmothers parents..I don't have any info on George's parents other than his father died while he was young and mother remarried to a Hickom.. -----Original Message----- From: Goshmetwo@aol.com <Goshmetwo@aol.com> To: RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com <RAYNOR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [RAYNOR] looking for relatives >Danny > >What dates do you have for George Raynor? I think he may be of the same >family as Martha (Raynor) Norton of Alto Pass but do not know the exact >connection (possible nephew?) at this time without some additional checking. >Martha (Mattie) was born in Illinois - but apparently just after her parents >came from TN as another sister was born in TN 5 years before Martha's birth. > > >==== RAYNOR Mailing List ==== >Visit the RAYNOR Family Web Site at: >http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/Raynor.htm >If you would like to submit information on your RAYNOR ancestors to be included on this site, >please contact Karima at mailto:quest@springnet1.com > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >