For many years, too many to relate, all I knew about my ancestor, Lydia RATCLIFFE, m Dec. 31, 1799 to William Walker in Barnwell Dist., SC was that her father was named SAMUEL. I posted several messages to this list, imploring anyone who had anything about a Lydia Ratcliffe who would have been in SC at this time to please share it with me, all to no avail. About a month ago, Gary Radcliffe enclosed the web address of Donald Ratcliff http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/1719/index.html and said that it contained the most detailed list of Rat(c)liffs he had ever seen. I visited the list and, voila!, I was able to connect my Lydia's Samuel to the mainline Ratcliff stream that flowed back to 1066ad. Boy, has it ever turned my quest around! Now, I feel able to help other Orangeburgh/Barnwell Co.,SC researchers because of my "find". Thank you Gary for pointing me in this direction. Now, since you spell your name with a "d" in it, perhaps you can help me with another Radcliffe descendant who is researching the parentage of one GEORGE RADCLIFFE, b. 1806, who lived in Barnwell District until some time after the 1860 census. I am attempting to help her and am sorta stuck as to his father's name. I think it may have been John and that he died some time after the 1820 census. I found a John Ratcliffe in Orangeburgh Dist. in 1820 who had a son who could have been George's age. He was not listed in the 1830 census. I found a Charlotte Ratcliffe in the 1830 Barnwell Dist. census who lived in the same neighborhood that George lived in the 1850 census. I theorize that John died and his widow's family lived in Barnwell Dist. and she went to live with them. There was one old man in Charlotte's family who could have been her father and a son of the right age group could have been George. Have you possibly ever heard of this family? George had sons, Aaron (b. 1835) and Owen (b. 1837-d.1927) Frank [email protected] Dum Spiro Spero!!!