Who are you? ----- Original Message ----- From: <bacz42_99@yahoo.com> To: <RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:21 AM Subject: [RATLIFF] Re: Timothy Ratliff and the Hillcrest Reunions. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RGCBAEB/550.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks Ms. Howard on your reply. I found out Timothy was killed in a surfing accident in California and I also connected his two sisters together who hadn't seen each other for over 40 plus years. The reunion of these two sisters didn't go over to great, but they did meet. I am hoping one day they will both be able to reconnect and stay connected. I have learned one thing from helping people in a circumstance such as this. A person has to be careful who they are helping, as it can sometimes backfire when the person they were helping don't see eye to eye in the way things were handled. I know that I did the right thing and I was honest about everything and God knows I did my best. The reunions are in August, but I'm not sure on the date. They are usually held at the Earl Thomas Conley Park in West Portsmouth, Ohio on Rt. 52 West. Sometimes they have an ad in the Portsmouth Newspaper about the reunion. Good luck on finding your father. Maybe you will meet someone there who mig! > ht have known him, but if not just keep talking to people and never give up. > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes > problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. > Please turn these functions off. The following URL explains how > to correct the problem in various programs. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RGCBAEB/550.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Ms. Howard on your reply. I found out Timothy was killed in a surfing accident in California and I also connected his two sisters together who hadn't seen each other for over 40 plus years. The reunion of these two sisters didn't go over to great, but they did meet. I am hoping one day they will both be able to reconnect and stay connected. I have learned one thing from helping people in a circumstance such as this. A person has to be careful who they are helping, as it can sometimes backfire when the person they were helping don't see eye to eye in the way things were handled. I know that I did the right thing and I was honest about everything and God knows I did my best. The reunions are in August, but I'm not sure on the date. They are usually held at the Earl Thomas Conley Park in West Portsmouth, Ohio on Rt. 52 West. Sometimes they have an ad in the Portsmouth Newspaper about the reunion. Good luck on finding your father. Maybe you will meet someone there who mig! ht have known him, but if not just keep talking to people and never give up.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: sparks , ward, pennington, hicks, brown, carter, jenkins, george,and howard , whitaker , hale, allen , shepard, adn martin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RGCBAEB/550.1 Message Board Post: my father was also in the wheelersburg childrens home.they have a reunion every year of people in or adopted from . i am trying to find out when the next one is . i think they said in aug. 2002 barbara sparks howard

Hi there, Yeah, that's my lines... I'm probably double related because the Childers married into the Ratliff's, but I have to sit down and find the connection in the Ratliff's... Do you have information on who Richard's parents were? Thanks A bunch, Alta Fay Ratliff Henderson --- Joan & Ray Gillespie <jora@mindspring.com> wrote: > Pleasant Childress(Childers) & Sarah Jeffers were > the parents of Sarah > Childress, who married Richard Ratliff , who was my > gggrandfather. > jora@mindspring.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "a r" <fahenus1@yahoo.com> > To: <RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:00 PM > Subject: [RATLIFF] help with my Ratliff's of Eastern > Kentucky -- Pike Co. > > > > Hello everyone, > > I haven't had a chance to write to the list often, > but > > have been reading for sometime now and have found > > everyone to be very friendly and helpful to one > > another. I'm trying to get my website up, but > wanted > > to do more research into my surnames prior to the > > finish of it. I'm posting this to several groups > > (counties) so please forgive me if you receive it > from > > different lists. I'm also on digest version, so I > > will answer any posts when I get my digest :-)) > My > > email is: fahenus@yahoo.com > > > > Most of my family is from Pike County, Kentucky. > Many > > came to Pike Co. from Va and NC, etc.. > > > > My question is that I'm trying to find some > websites > > or additional information on my surnames, does > anyone > > have any information on these families or know of > any > > websites? I would also like to make connections > to > > family members and invite them to Lisa & my list > > called: PikeCoKY_Ratliff_Spears@yahoogroups.com. > (61 > > members already there with information on these > > families) > > > > They are: Ratliff (down from Marion Columbus > born: > > July 20-1890 & died: 10-13-1940 and Ellie Adkins > > born: 4-11-1904 & died: 4-4-1992), Spears (down > from > > Silvester Spears born: 4-26-1866 and died > 2-19-1929 > > and Melvina Cox born: 4-30-1866 & Died: > 3-13-1942), > > Childers (Pleasant Childers & Sarah Jefferies), > > Roberts (Corneilous Roberts & Mary "Polly" > Benton), > > Damron (down from Lazarus Damron d: 1749 in > Albermarle > > County, Va & Elizabeth Smith), Tackett ( down from > > Dulcenia "Dull" Tackett b: 10-20-1872, d: > 12-13-1953; > > & James Smith Roberts b: 1868, d: 1944), Lambert > (from > > Lucinda Lambert born: 4-10-1881 in PCK and died: > > 5-5-1948 in Pck & Wilburn Roberts b: 9-24-1868 & > died: > > 1-18-1942 in PCK), Branham (from David Branham, > Jr. b: > > 1780 and died: 1849 & Elizabeth Little born 1780 > in > > Virginia), Newsome (from: Harrison Newsome born > 1775 > > in NC and died: 1798 in NC & ?), Stewart (from > Andrew > > Jackson Stewart born: 8-11-1865, died: 2-18-1946 > in > > PCK & Nancy Caroline Newsome born: 4-22-1867 and > died: > > 7-17-1952), Sanders (from Thomas Jefferson Sanders > > born: 1801 in Virginia & died in 1865 in PCK & > > Elizabeth C. McBrayer and they were married on > > 4-13-1820 in Floyd Co. Ky.), Cantrell (Isaac > Cantrell > > born: 5-1832 in Wise Co. Va. died after 1910 & he > > married Artemisia Sanders on May 14-1854 in PCK) & > > Adkins (from Amanda Judy Adkins who married John > Cox). > > > > > > I have had the most trouble with the Ratliff and > > Spears lines and those are my main lines. > However, > > several sources have said that my set of Ratliff's > are > > down from a Silace Ratliff. We have found > conflicting > > information about Marion Columbus Ratliff's > family, as > > we know his father is Jefferson "Jeff" Ratliff, > > however several different people have found > different > > wives for Jeff. One such person is Nancy > Hamiliton > > and the other was a Nancy Mullins, who in the 1900 > PCK > > census it said they were married for 10 years and > > lists most all of the below children, so I'm > confused > > as to that facts with that. Unless he was married > > more than once. I know Marion Columbus had these > > brothers: Phillip, John, Harvey, Joe and Jeff. > > > > Now the Spears is about the same as we have > > Sillvester's parents as: William Spears and his > > mother as Elizabeth Colwell and I believe they are > > buried at Hurricane, Ky. However, we have no > > information behind them. One story that my great > > grandfather, Elkana Spears (Sil's son), told my > father > > was that either his grandfather or > greatgrandfather > > killed a man in Va, I think, and at that time he > was a > > "Sparks" and moved to Ky. and changed his name to > > Spears. I don't know if this has any truth to it > or > > not, but has left me guessing. > > > > Any help or connections or websites about this > family > > would be of great help... > > > > Thanks, > > Alta Fay Ratliff Henderson > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > > If you'd like to search the List archives, please > visit > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=RATLIFF > > > > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing > lists. It causes > problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email > programs. > Please turn these functions off. The following URL > explains how > to correct the problem in various programs. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm > ===== Happy Hunting & Best Wishes Always, Alta Fay Ratliff Henderson Owner of: PikeCoKY_Ratliff_Spears@yahoogroups.com Researching the surnames of: Ratliff, Spears, Childers, Cantrell, Adkins, Stewart, Roberts, Tackett, Cox, Sanders & Branham. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

Pleasant Childress(Childers) & Sarah Jeffers were the parents of Sarah Childress, who married Richard Ratliff , who was my gggrandfather. jora@mindspring.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "a r" <fahenus1@yahoo.com> To: <RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:00 PM Subject: [RATLIFF] help with my Ratliff's of Eastern Kentucky -- Pike Co. > Hello everyone, > I haven't had a chance to write to the list often, but > have been reading for sometime now and have found > everyone to be very friendly and helpful to one > another. I'm trying to get my website up, but wanted > to do more research into my surnames prior to the > finish of it. I'm posting this to several groups > (counties) so please forgive me if you receive it from > different lists. I'm also on digest version, so I > will answer any posts when I get my digest :-)) My > email is: fahenus@yahoo.com > > Most of my family is from Pike County, Kentucky. Many > came to Pike Co. from Va and NC, etc.. > > My question is that I'm trying to find some websites > or additional information on my surnames, does anyone > have any information on these families or know of any > websites? I would also like to make connections to > family members and invite them to Lisa & my list > called: PikeCoKY_Ratliff_Spears@yahoogroups.com. (61 > members already there with information on these > families) > > They are: Ratliff (down from Marion Columbus born: > July 20-1890 & died: 10-13-1940 and Ellie Adkins > born: 4-11-1904 & died: 4-4-1992), Spears (down from > Silvester Spears born: 4-26-1866 and died 2-19-1929 > and Melvina Cox born: 4-30-1866 & Died: 3-13-1942), > Childers (Pleasant Childers & Sarah Jefferies), > Roberts (Corneilous Roberts & Mary "Polly" Benton), > Damron (down from Lazarus Damron d: 1749 in Albermarle > County, Va & Elizabeth Smith), Tackett ( down from > Dulcenia "Dull" Tackett b: 10-20-1872, d: 12-13-1953; > & James Smith Roberts b: 1868, d: 1944), Lambert (from > Lucinda Lambert born: 4-10-1881 in PCK and died: > 5-5-1948 in Pck & Wilburn Roberts b: 9-24-1868 & died: > 1-18-1942 in PCK), Branham (from David Branham, Jr. b: > 1780 and died: 1849 & Elizabeth Little born 1780 in > Virginia), Newsome (from: Harrison Newsome born 1775 > in NC and died: 1798 in NC & ?), Stewart (from Andrew > Jackson Stewart born: 8-11-1865, died: 2-18-1946 in > PCK & Nancy Caroline Newsome born: 4-22-1867 and died: > 7-17-1952), Sanders (from Thomas Jefferson Sanders > born: 1801 in Virginia & died in 1865 in PCK & > Elizabeth C. McBrayer and they were married on > 4-13-1820 in Floyd Co. Ky.), Cantrell (Isaac Cantrell > born: 5-1832 in Wise Co. Va. died after 1910 & he > married Artemisia Sanders on May 14-1854 in PCK) & > Adkins (from Amanda Judy Adkins who married John Cox). > > > I have had the most trouble with the Ratliff and > Spears lines and those are my main lines. However, > several sources have said that my set of Ratliff's are > down from a Silace Ratliff. We have found conflicting > information about Marion Columbus Ratliff's family, as > we know his father is Jefferson "Jeff" Ratliff, > however several different people have found different > wives for Jeff. One such person is Nancy Hamiliton > and the other was a Nancy Mullins, who in the 1900 PCK > census it said they were married for 10 years and > lists most all of the below children, so I'm confused > as to that facts with that. Unless he was married > more than once. I know Marion Columbus had these > brothers: Phillip, John, Harvey, Joe and Jeff. > > Now the Spears is about the same as we have > Sillvester's parents as: William Spears and his > mother as Elizabeth Colwell and I believe they are > buried at Hurricane, Ky. However, we have no > information behind them. One story that my great > grandfather, Elkana Spears (Sil's son), told my father > was that either his grandfather or greatgrandfather > killed a man in Va, I think, and at that time he was a > "Sparks" and moved to Ky. and changed his name to > Spears. I don't know if this has any truth to it or > not, but has left me guessing. > > Any help or connections or websites about this family > would be of great help... > > Thanks, > Alta Fay Ratliff Henderson > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search the List archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=RATLIFF >

Hello everyone, I haven't had a chance to write to the list often, but have been reading for sometime now and have found everyone to be very friendly and helpful to one another. I'm trying to get my website up, but wanted to do more research into my surnames prior to the finish of it. I'm posting this to several groups (counties) so please forgive me if you receive it from different lists. I'm also on digest version, so I will answer any posts when I get my digest :-)) My email is: fahenus@yahoo.com Most of my family is from Pike County, Kentucky. Many came to Pike Co. from Va and NC, etc.. My question is that I'm trying to find some websites or additional information on my surnames, does anyone have any information on these families or know of any websites? I would also like to make connections to family members and invite them to Lisa & my list called: PikeCoKY_Ratliff_Spears@yahoogroups.com. (61 members already there with information on these families) They are: Ratliff (down from Marion Columbus born: July 20-1890 & died: 10-13-1940 and Ellie Adkins born: 4-11-1904 & died: 4-4-1992), Spears (down from Silvester Spears born: 4-26-1866 and died 2-19-1929 and Melvina Cox born: 4-30-1866 & Died: 3-13-1942), Childers (Pleasant Childers & Sarah Jefferies), Roberts (Corneilous Roberts & Mary "Polly" Benton), Damron (down from Lazarus Damron d: 1749 in Albermarle County, Va & Elizabeth Smith), Tackett ( down from Dulcenia "Dull" Tackett b: 10-20-1872, d: 12-13-1953; & James Smith Roberts b: 1868, d: 1944), Lambert (from Lucinda Lambert born: 4-10-1881 in PCK and died: 5-5-1948 in Pck & Wilburn Roberts b: 9-24-1868 & died: 1-18-1942 in PCK), Branham (from David Branham, Jr. b: 1780 and died: 1849 & Elizabeth Little born 1780 in Virginia), Newsome (from: Harrison Newsome born 1775 in NC and died: 1798 in NC & ?), Stewart (from Andrew Jackson Stewart born: 8-11-1865, died: 2-18-1946 in PCK & Nancy Caroline Newsome born: 4-22-1867 and died: 7-17-1952), Sanders (from Thomas Jefferson Sanders born: 1801 in Virginia & died in 1865 in PCK & Elizabeth C. McBrayer and they were married on 4-13-1820 in Floyd Co. Ky.), Cantrell (Isaac Cantrell born: 5-1832 in Wise Co. Va. died after 1910 & he married Artemisia Sanders on May 14-1854 in PCK) & Adkins (from Amanda Judy Adkins who married John Cox). I have had the most trouble with the Ratliff and Spears lines and those are my main lines. However, several sources have said that my set of Ratliff's are down from a Silace Ratliff. We have found conflicting information about Marion Columbus Ratliff's family, as we know his father is Jefferson "Jeff" Ratliff, however several different people have found different wives for Jeff. One such person is Nancy Hamiliton and the other was a Nancy Mullins, who in the 1900 PCK census it said they were married for 10 years and lists most all of the below children, so I'm confused as to that facts with that. Unless he was married more than once. I know Marion Columbus had these brothers: Phillip, John, Harvey, Joe and Jeff. Now the Spears is about the same as we have Sillvester's parents as: William Spears and his mother as Elizabeth Colwell and I believe they are buried at Hurricane, Ky. However, we have no information behind them. One story that my great grandfather, Elkana Spears (Sil's son), told my father was that either his grandfather or greatgrandfather killed a man in Va, I think, and at that time he was a "Sparks" and moved to Ky. and changed his name to Spears. I don't know if this has any truth to it or not, but has left me guessing. Any help or connections or websites about this family would be of great help... Thanks, Alta Fay Ratliff Henderson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com

Hi All Lists, There remains a great deal of scepticism and even some hostility towards the possibility of dna Gen testing. Below are three recent messages that seem useful for all to read. These two people seem to have specific information that could assist you to make a determination. I am NOT in a position to judge the value of these comments, but because of their obvious potential value, I do want you to have the views for your evaluation and/or as a basis for further decisions or action, if any. Obviously, the expenditure of $200 is significant, but on the other hand, might be trivial if there is a way to determine some blood/Gen/ familial connection of value to you, if that is possible. I am having a bit of difficulty determining how one can obtain the dna of ancestors w/which to compare, see the 'View a sample report' comparison website and discussion further below: (This is an edited extract of the pitch as previously sent): " "Find Your Ancestors with Genetic Testing http://www.ancestornews.com/dna.htm How and Why your DNA can help you find connections with the past and the present. Ancestry.com announces the most advanced DNA testing and DNA databases available anywhere. Their state-of-the-art DNA testing lab, under the direction of renowned scientist Dr. Scott Woodward, is on the cutting edge of DNA analysis and has the ability to link you with your ancestors. For about $200, you can prove or disprove relationships with living people break through previous brick walls in your research find ethnic and geographic clues to help in your search group surname reconstruction database and pedigree matches. How Genetic Genealogy Testing Works: Once you submit your DNA sample, the DNA will be extracted and processed so that the specific region of interest on the DNA can be examined. Certain well-studied locations on your DNA are known to mutate or experience slight changes as your ancestors pass them down from generation to generation. Since we know the approximate rate of mutation for various locations on your DNA, we can compare similar DNA signatures and statistically determine how many generations it would have taken for one person's signature to mutate into another signature. Exact matches indicate very close relationships because not enough generations separate the two people for any mutations to have occurred. Signatures with multiple mismatches indicate a more distant relationship or no relation at all. Shortly after your DNA sample has been processed, your results and information will be available to you on a secure personal Web site that only you can access. On your personal Web site you can: View and print test results. See how your results match up with their extensive databases of DNA samples for possible matches. Contact possible relatives with similar DNA signature anonymously through the Ancestry.com Web site. Automatically search over 186 million names in the Ancestry World Tree for newly discovered relatives. Imagine . . . Knowing your ancestral signature is the first step in unlocking the secrets of your heritage that go beyond written records. View a sample report: http://64.4.8.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=4f4245f9fff5d23a9c598c3ff9312328&lat=1013896541&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eancestornews%2ecom%2fdna%2ehtm" [These below are the 2 messages (imperfectly edited) I wanted to transmit. bw]: "Buyer Beware, Medical tests for these kinds of problems are NOT going to help in any way by swabbing the inside of your cheek. These tests are very costly and are done in a laboratory under specific conditions. Ancestry is up to their old tricks. Trying to grab your money. Please read between the lines. And there is NO test for Indian ancestry-especially by swabbing your cheek. If you read carefully, you will see that all they are offering is a migration pattern of certain people. Big deal. A very close friend of mine had her blood tested for a family history of a certain illness that was genetic and some of her brothers had died from the disease. This simple blood test was $5,000 and she had to travel 350 miles to a certain hospital in Boston go have it. There was screening, interviews and research into her family. The test probably costs more now as this was in 1993. Luckily, she did not have the gene. If you are looking for your ancestry or trying to prove you are descended from someone back int eh 1700's, first you have to dig up that ancestor and have him tested by bone marrow. Then you have to be tested. Below I have copied and pasted some information from a woman who knows what she is talking about: There is NO known test to determine Native American > Ancestry. Or Tribe. Or Color. Check with Duke, Yale, North Western, > Johns Hopkins, Albert Einstein---Mayo---any genetic testing lab of > repute---etc. they will all tell you many things are being learned daily > in cracking the DNA codes--race is NOT one of them, to date. > > > The testing, however, does show migration patterns, relationships to other > folks being tested, (if any), relationship to groups being tested. EX: I > do some EDWARDS research, and a man who kind of rounds us all up, heads us > in the right direction, has been having Edwards folks send their samples > to a lab that is doing all the families being tested. They have discovered > the Alabama Edwards do NOT come from the NC line, but--out of the Mass. > grp--etc--due to the relationship shown in the DNA. > > Illnesses known to be heavy in a family, with genetic markers, (and this > would include Tribal communities, etc, due to our proclivity for > cousinship marriages, common familial intermarriages (kind of the same > thing)---) will show up big time. > > Native grps sometimes have a certain trait for a health problem---a rare > form of retinitis pigmentosa is one-- particular combination of markers for > the alpha-antitrypsen (1) enzyme is another, my family has that one, is > matrilineally passed---PhD did a book on it. > > SO: DNA testing is good, if you are looking for recessive items that can > be harmful---2 recessives can make a dominent, you know----or if you want > to see who you are related to --group wise---but, to date---no little > marker has a feather on it's cell-------forget finding out "what kind of > Indian I am". that way. > > The Pimas, being rather isolated, self contained, had a huge study done on > them re: diabetes, weight gain, heart problems, etc. So, if you are > related to, descend from them,have moved out, married out, chances are---a > DNA workup on you would show your relationship to them, and some of the > same traits they have markers for---and probably be acceptable proof, you > are to some degree, Pima. > > Most tribes are matrilineal------your testing could prove you are related > to a particular group, making your statement of being of them, related to > them, would be a proven. NOT be an "Indian marker" but by the documented > relationship to People who ARE proven to be native. > > > > But, markers have minds of their own--some are male to female passed, > some are the reverse (hemophilia--female carrier, male inherited) and then, there is "mutation"---on and on it goes. > > >> Altho I sure wish they would crack this one---then every one could head >> down to their local gene lab, get tested, have THAT on their drivers >> license . Sure would cure the wannbees. (so much for "I have a red heart >> and a red spirit--yeah, right) And the Feds. LOLOLOLOL >> >> The standard test is a bit under $200. Mainly because it is grant funded, >> so they can charge a minimum. Paternity, etc, on thorough genetic >> screening runs between $1200 and $2000, depending on what is being looked >> at, sought, tested for." [end messages 1&2] ======================= I agree with your interpretation. I've done a bit of reading on the topic and the tests currently available can follow the male line OR the female line. You can't find out anything about your father's mother unless you do the DNA test on one of her daughters. I have a great deal of information about my mother's female line and my dad's male line. My brick walls are all in my dad's mom's line. She is deceased, as are her daughters. . . . . . . My most solid brick wall is my great-grandfather, who had one son...who only has a daughter. I don't think it would be possible to prove a relationship to Pocahontas through DNA because she only had a son, who only had a daughter, who only had a son...no direct line of the same sex. The best you could hope for was proving a relationship with one of her siblings or another descendent. There have been a couple of excellent articles on DNA testing and genealogy in the National Genealogy Society Quarterly in the last year or two. [end message #3] ======================= There is one comment I would like to address. While Ancestry might be looking for add'l income (who isn't?), I would not evaluate such an add for $200 as a bald pitch just to milk us w/no benefit. They would stand to lose tremendous good will if there wasn't some benefit. There are many people of high moral values involved in this Gen endeavor, who would be quick to disavow Ancestry if this is a fraud. Nevertheless, as the first message started with, Buyer Beware! Barry _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RGCBAEB/593.594.1.1 Message Board Post: I'm sorry--that is an older post and I no longer have the info (a computer crashed lost all the bookmarks and I didn't keep a hard copy)...best of luck!

Hi List, Recently, I posted some messages referencing some newly offered dna testing possibilities. Since then, there have been many messages requesting more Gen info re: dna testing. I was just notified (thanks JB) of an even better, yet still manageably short, analysis of the Gen possibility of the use of dna testing. (Two members of Lists were understandably quite a bit more interested because they and a family member had medical conditions, the treatment of which could depend on finding suitable donors, of which blood related potential donors were far more likely to be suitable (and, perhaps even more significant, probably more motivated)). Below is the article/ad/discussion FYI. This is not an endorsement of these solicitations, and I'm not recommending anything but to read this FYI. Two persons have stated they have undergone such 'testing', and will report back, altho how much of that will be avail for discussion will depend on the confidentiality they wish to retain, and the value of such an exchange. Barry PS: In my opinion, this is a quite suitable Gen topic for any List - what better way to conduct Gen research than to increase the confidence in those Gen Lines you seek - but if any List Host disagrees, please advise and I will not burden your List. I'm in NO way connected w/Ancestry, except as a RootsWeb List host. "Find Your Ancestors with Genetic Testing http://www.ancestornews.com/dna.htm How and Why your DNA can help you find connections with the past and the present Ancestry.com announces the most advanced DNA testing and DNA databases available anywhere. Their state-of-the-art DNA testing lab, under the direction of renowned scientist Dr. Scott Woodward, is on the cutting edge of DNA analysis and has the ability to link you with your ancestors. For about $200, you can prove or disprove relationships with living people break through previous brick walls in your research find ethnic and geographic clues to help in your search group surname reconstruction database and pedigree matches How Genetic Genealogy Testing Works: Once you submit your DNA sample, the DNA will be extracted and processed so that the specific region of interest on the DNA can be examined. Certain well-studied locations on your DNA are known to mutate or experience slight changes as your ancestors pass them down from generation to generation. Since we know the approximate rate of mutation for various locations on your DNA, we can compare similar DNA signatures and statistically determine how many generations it would have taken for one person's signature to mutate into another signature. Exact matches indicate very close relationships because not enough generations separate the two people for any mutations to have occurred. Signatures with multiple mismatches indicate a more distant relationship or no relation at all. Shortly after your DNA sample has been processed, your results and information will be available to you on a secure personal Web site that only you can access. On your personal Web site you can: View and print test results. See how your results match up with their extensive databases of DNA samples for possible matches. Contact possible relatives with similar DNA signature anonymously through the Ancestry.com Web site. Automatically search over 186 million names in the Ancestry World Tree for newly discovered relatives. Imagine . . . Knowing your ancestral signature is the first step in unlocking the secrets of your heritage that go beyond written records. View a sample report http://64.4.8.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=4f4245f9fff5d23a9c598c3ff9312328&lat=1013896541&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2eancestornews%2ecom%2fdna%2ehtm GenetiKit Genealogy Maternal Origin test - Native American (mtDNA Haplotype) The Maternal Origin - Native American- test analyzes your DNA and returns your genetic identity that was inherited from your maternal ancestors. This test can determine if your maternal heritage is Native American. Your identity is shown by the values associated with your Mitochondrial DNA. This test uses the Mitochondrial DNA Native American Haplotype Test to establish relationships. This test is collected by using Ancestry's GenetiKit. The GenetiKit is a home collection kit that comes with a swab to painlessly and easily collect a sample of cells from the inside of your cheek, which is then returned to the laboratory where DNA testing is completed within a few weeks. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RGCBAEB/837.1 Message Board Post: I am Mitchell's niece. My dad is Clyde Ratliff. Any information you have on the Ratliffs, please send it to me. Thank you for posting the obit of my uncle.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RGCBAEB/593.594.1 Message Board Post: I am from Paintsville, KY. My parents are Clyde and Julie Ratliff. Can you please send me any information on Johnson County Ratliffs. I would really appreciate it.

Kelly, The Richard Ratliff mentioned in "Jackson's White Plumes" came to Ala. shortly after the Revolution. He is mentioned by a Gov. surveyor in the 1790s as saying he had lived here several years. Davy Crocket found him living in what is now Etowa County near the Blount County line. He was married to an Indian lady and had a large family. He went west on "The Trail of Tears" with his family I think in the 1830s. There are a number of Ratliffs still in Ok. The John Ratliff mentioned in the book may be my ggg grandfather, John A. Ratliff. John is listed in the Blount Co. census of 1830. His father was Jeremiah Ratliff who was listed in the St. Clare census of 1820 and the Jefferson Co. census of 1830. I have not been able to relate John and Richard. Dean Ratliff

I have already contacted the publisher and they said they do not keep copies of books.They sent me a name and address and phone number of the author. I wrote him a letter but it was never answered and the phone number was wrong. Thats when I contacted this site hoping someone could help me get a copy. Thanks Linda

Sorry, the names are not familier to me. I wish I could help with it. I have traced Allen Ratliff's father back to Luke Ratliff born abt 1790 married to Mary Cook in Chambers, AL I believe Luke's first name or middle name may have been Redden. So my direct line of Ratliffs goes like this. Luke, Allen, George, Mamie, George and me. Stay in touch. delane

Hi Janet, I've got an auto document feeder, if you could photocopy and send to me. Of course, I'll return the pages and give you a disk or burn a CD w/the scans. It sounds like there is some interest. Barry >From: "Janet Peters" <harlessj@citlink.net> >Reply-To: RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com >To: RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [RATLIFF] Index >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:28:37 -0800 > >Barry, > >The index of names in the book is about 18-20 pages. Too many pages to >scan. >Janet > > > >==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== >Please rememember to keep your signature lines no larger than >four (4) lines, and NO surnames in signature lines other than your >own name as your signature. The archive search engine >will score a "hit" on any surnames listed in a signature line. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

This is more of a "HELP me see" if I am on to something here? Job Marshall RATLIFF, b. 1841 probably Arkansas. d. 1916 (per pension app.Mullin, Mills Co. TX.) He married Susan Frances MEEKS in 1861 in Bell co, TX. Their children? recently I have heard that possibly a Roy RATLIFF was a son, or grand son in their line, and that his son was Marshall Fields RATLIFF. Job Marshall RATLIFF was the son of Guilford RATLIFF and Mahala ?. Job was also the brother of my great grand dad Joseph RATLIFF who married Frances HARRELL; and Archelous Ratliff who married Lucinda ANDERSON. I have to insert something about Lucinda here so that this can fall together as I am thinking I am seeing it. Lucinda's parents were Henry ANDERSON and Sarah...? Collier ? >From a book called Fort Belknap, Frontier Saga it was stated Sarah was a LOWRY, but this has come under fire and it is thought that maiden name of LOWRY is actually associated with MAHALA who was Guilford Ratliff's wife, rather than with Sarah wife of Henry Anderson. Lucinda and Arch had a daughter named Nancy but she was called NANNIE or NOMIE. Guilford RATLIFF hails from Job RATLIFF, b. 1872 - who married an Agnes and it is thought that Job's father was a John RATLIFF, b. abt 1750 in Virginia.. Also another of Guilford's sons was a Thompson RATLIFF and there are Thompson RATLIFFs back ... so the name is handed down in our family in that combination reasonably often. Now I have introduced all the given names & surnames and combinations "I think".. that I am using at the moment with this search. There is a book titled "JACKSON's WHITE PLUMES", written by Charlotte HOOD. This book is about families who helped Jackson during the era of 1812 --- 1814 or so. In an area that was Georgia, but later became part of Alabama (if I am reading right). There were SEVERAL RATLIFF families and variations of the name there. (one RATLEY that I suspect is related too) I am focusing on Richard RATLIFF, John RATLIFF, and a Thompson RATLIFF, all three mentioned in the book. Richard married a Nannie FIELDS and they had lived in MARSHALL COUNTY. John Ratliff was felt to be either Richards son or a brother? In association with the RATLIFFs was mentioned a George LOWREY and as I just noticed again.. SAM HOUSTON (a name that shows up in our branches as well). Lucinda Anderson's mother might have been a descendant of a STARR from recent discussion, nothing conclusive yet, but if that too turns out to be so, in the book was mentioned a STARR as well.. There are other names, people, things that are starting to look just WAY to familiar when the RATLIFFs I am a part of. Though I can not put my finger on any thing directly. Does anyone know more about these lines, those in the book and are they able to see any connection with any of the ramblings I have suggested here? Kelly kelleen2@icehouse.net

Will you post the findings? I have not heard of this book and am curious as to what it may contain on the RATLIFF family. kelly I have the book, The Keepers of the Name and Blood ;is there anything I can look up for you. Janet Peters harlessj@citlink.net

I am searching for a book called The Keepers of the Name and The Blood by Smiley Ratliff. Can anyone help. Linda

Hi Janet, Is there an index and/or Table of Contents? Could you scan them for posting? My Ratliffs are centered in N FL, Jasper & Jacksonville. Barry Wetherington PS: If you'd like, photocopy the TOC/Index, send it to me, and I'll scan it for posting to the list: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/r/ratliff.html I believe that using just an index just for a non-profit use on the list is 'fair use'. 5365 Toscana Way #437 La Jolls CA 92122 >From: "Janet Peters" <harlessj@citlink.net> >Reply-To: RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com >To: RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [RATLIFF] Book >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:40:13 -0800 > >Linda, >I have the book, The Keepers of the Name and Blood ;is there anything I >can >look up for you. >Janet Peters >harlessj@citlink.net > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Dearylmil@aol.com> >To: <RATLIFF-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 9:52 AM >Subject: [RATLIFF] Book > > > > I am searching for a book called The Keepers of the Name and The Blood >by > > Smiley Ratliff. Can anyone help. > > > > Linda > > > > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > > Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes > > problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. > > Please turn these functions off. The following URL explains how > > to correct the problem in various programs. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm >==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== >Please remember to respect the copyright laws. If you wish to > quote something that is copyrighted, quote just a few words > or lines, giving credit to the author of the publication _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RGCBAEB/863.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello I believe we might be connected to the same family as my lines are Ratliff and Surface. I have an America in my family my email is Dearylmil@aol.com. Maybe we can help each other. Linda Ratliff Miller