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    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] old research, new researcher
    2. I am not sure where my Radcliffe family came from, but by the early 1800's they were in the Allendale/Barnwell areaof SC. One of the girls(don't know her name,yet, but hope to soon, because I have a lead ) married a Mr. Hand from NC. I was thinking maybe the family came from NC. The oldest ones I know by name are George and Jane Tyler Radcliffe (late 1700's), their son Owen Riley Radcliffe and a brother or other relative named Aaron Radcliffe who gave Owen and his wife some property in Barnwell Co.,SC. Do any of these sound familiar? Where is Donald Ratcliff's site? I don't need anonymity. Susan Hovermale

    09/08/1998 01:54:17
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] old research, new researcher
    2. Kelly KH Sullivan
    3. MainSeulth, You have acquired many things on the Ratliff families? May I ask if you have run across a John Ratliff born abt 1750 -60 in VA, his son Job(e) married an Agnes and one of their children (my gr gr grand father) was named Guilford Ratliff, I suspect for the Battle of Guilford in S.C.. I do not know fore sure, but I think that maybe they were in S.C. on their way to either ILL, or around on to Arkansas. By the way, John had a son William, but I will have to look to see if I actually have any information on him. I am pretty sure this William was born in Virginia. This is pretty far fetched but... on GenForum in the Ratliff surname area there is a FYI posting and it lists many of the Ratliffs who were sent here on English prison ships if my memory serves me correctly. From some of my research on my father's side, being on one of those ships did not necessarily imply a person was a criminal. I think possibly England just chose to rid itself of folks that had different ideas or were poor, or any number of other reasons finding some minor crime against them to use as an excuse to send them to America. Thank you for any information and thank you too for keeping the living out of the data bases.. I never mind if my name is mentioned as a descendant, but get real antsy when dates are applied. I think we were at one time able to trust those who read the Genealogy lists because most were family looking into family history, now unfortunately the information can be used against us in devastating ways. Kelly. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    09/08/1998 01:32:31
    1. [RATLIFF-L] old research, new researcher
    2. I have for about 2 years been researching a Ratliff family which others have researched for decades and who have now either died or retired, probably due to frustration with this effort. The subject family's earliest known appearance was in Anson County, NC, in the mid to late 1700's. It is not part of the vast Ratcliff group, also in NC in the period, which is represented on the net by Donald Ratcliff in his Ratcliff Family Tree web site. I have read all other Radcliffe, Ratcliff, Ratliff sites and have found nothing to which this family can be connected. Qeries on the various forums, both by surname and by region of the eastern seaboard, have produced nothing. I have spent countless hours in LDS and state genealogy libraries, all to no avail. I have written hundreds of letters and have received hundreds in return. I have obtained copies of every deed or other document which I know to be obtainable in NC and there is no clue as to where this family may have come from. (There is no "family memory" of its origins.) Should I quit? Can any of you offer me any suggestions about how to proceed - what I can do to produce results? A major problem, which, no doubt, all of you have experienced, is the commonality of names. In this Ratliff family are William, James, Elijah, Richard, Samuel, and so on - names duplicated in every other Ratliff family of the period. I hate the idea of expiring in my old age without ever having made a step back from where cousins, now deceased, left off twenty or thirty years ago. I pledge total privacy to anyone with whom I communicate. I will not use the name of any living person in any way except with prior written permission. I will not, under any circumstances, include in my records the names of your ancestors unless we agree that we share same, and I will give credit or attribution to the person or persons who did the research and provided the information. May I expect the same from you? I do this because of some very insensitive people who, I have recently discovered, appear to "stalk" families on the net in order to add, without notice or permission, names of remotely related persons to their vast databases.

    09/08/1998 12:42:02
    1. [RATLIFF-L] Benjamin Ratliff
    2. MR PHILIP C SMITH JR
    3. -- [ From: Philip C. Smith Jr. * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Dear Cousins, Benjamin was married to Sallie Fergerson and they moved to Pittsylvania Co. Va. about 1804. Before he died in the fall of 1818 they had six children: John Ratliffe (c.1790) William (Buck) Ratliffe (5/6/1792-7/5/1871) Newbill Ratliffe (c.1793) Pendleton Ratliff (1794-1871) Mecca Ratliffe Styers James Ratliff (5/11/1798-11/27/1857) Sallie could be a Ferguson. Do you know where or when Ben or Sallie were born and who their parents were? Phil Smith

    09/08/1998 08:04:48
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Benjamin Radcliff 1885 Holt County Nebraska Census
    2. Karon Mazie
    3. I found this on a copy of a census page, that I have for my family, thought someone might want it. It is the best that I can read. Hard to see if it is NH or NY for the father of Della Numeration Dist. # 417, # 12 Stuart Township, Holt County Benjamin Radcliff 26 Farmer b. NY F b. VA M b. Ohio wife Della 28 ? b. IA NY VA Dora 2 b. NE OH OH

    09/04/1998 08:36:58
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. klspector
    3. Kelly KH Sullivan wrote: > > My Ratliff line as best as I am able to find were from Virginia, abt > 1750. From there some of the births are registered in ILL, but how they > migrated there ? Then on to Arkansas, Texas and some into Oklahoma, > Colorado, and my particular branch on up to Washington State. I only > just now noticed the "c" in Ratcliff, I know that the Ratliff and > Ratcliff are some how the same and that may be why I am unable to go > further back, due to spelling changes??? > One of my ancestors was named Guilford Ratliff, and I thought that the > Battle of Guilford was fought in S.C. I think this ancestor was named > after that battle and may have then placed the family in S.C. during that > period of time, but the Battle could have been in Virginia, I will have > to check. > Kelly > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > Send NO attachments of any kind to the list. If your email program > automatically generates attachments for coding, please be sure it is > turned off. If you have a document or other file of interest, please > send it to individual addresses rather than to the list. The guideline > also includes the "vcards" attachments. The Battle of Guilford Court House was fought in Guilford Co., North Carolina. The National Park Service has a very nice new museum on their site there. The town of Guilford College was made part of the city of Greensboro, NC.

    09/04/1998 07:59:25
    1. [RATLIFF-L] Re:Samuel Ratliff
    2. Kelly, I don't think that my Samuel was in OK. He may have been in Arkansas at one time but I've only found him in Johnson and Floyd Co. KY. Tammy

    09/04/1998 04:17:16
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. Kelly KH Sullivan
    3. Thanks for the info on The Guilford Courthouse, and Battle of. Haven't been searching in SC... so.... Searching for Ratliff records in S. Carolina. Questions Can this be done from my home computer, through a Library net? Who should be contacted, and what to search for? I am in learning mode... Kelly _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    09/04/1998 03:38:32
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. In a message dated 9/4/98 12:00:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << One of my ancestors was named Guilford Ratliff, and I thought that the Battle of Guilford was fought in S.C. I think this ancestor was named after that battle and may have then placed the family in S.C. during that period of time, but the Battle could have been in Virginia, I will have to check. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Kelly: The name, GUILFORD, is practically synonymous in the Carolinas with Guilford Courthouse, NC where one of the major battles in the Revolution was fought. The county seat for Guilford Co. is Greensboro, NC. At the time, there was a major wagon road which went through Greensboro to Charlotte and then down into SC, terminating at Augusta, GA, the frontier with the Indians. Some of your Ratliff (Ratcliff) clan could have gone down into SC. As a matter of fact, there was a Ratcliff who owned land in Mecklenburg Co., NC in the middle 1700s, in the part which is now in SC, but I have never been able to make a connection between these folks and the ones that lived in Orangeburgh/Barnwell Districts, SC. To be honest with you, at the time I happened on this reference, I was busy searching other lines and didn't follow up on it as I probably should have. I sort of figured that this Ratcliff may have been related by marriage to my Walker line because they also lived in Mecklenburg Co. from about 1764 to 1772. My Radcliffes were probably in the same group that came to the area of SC known at the time as EDISTO. This is an Indian name of a river (pronounced ED-isto) which divides Orangeburgh Co. from Barnwell and Bamberg Counties on the south. This is the area where Samuel Ratcliff and my Walkers lived. In fact, George Ratcliff lived in a small community called Healing Springs, SC right next to the Walkers. My ancestor, LYDIA RATCLIFFE married WILLIAM WALKER on December 31, 1799. These were my gr., gr., grandparents on my mother's side. I currently researching my CAIN line and have traced them back to the Isle of Man in the early 1700s. In searching the Isle of Man church registries, I noticed that there were many Radcliffs who lived alongside these Cain(e)s. My Cain ancestor (I hope) was first located in this country in Augusta Co., VA in 1746/47. While I haven't been able to find any Radcliffs who lived near him at the time, there could have been one and they may even have been somehow related. This Cain ancestor (Patrick) was located in the northern part of SC in 1773 in what is now Kershaw Co. He later moved to Orangeburgh District. His daughter, Alice, had married Nathaniel Walker, Jr. and they were part of the Walker clan I previously referred to. William Walker, who married Lydia Ratcliffe was their son. It makes sense to me that the Rad(t)cliffs, the Cains and the Walkers all knew each other and their children intermarried. That's how they operated in those days. They made do with what they had close at hand!<g> No Long distance courtships! Have you done much searching in the SC records for your Ratliffs? This can be a challenging and frustrating process since Sherman destroyed so many of our early records when he burned the Statehouse in Columbia during the Civil War. This was strictly a punitive measure he employed to hurt the proud South Carolinians who started the whole war. South Carolina has suffered for this miserable deed ever since. Hopefully, the SC Archives are gradually acquiring important documents which survived in various county Courthouses that were not burned but the pace of recording these documents has been painfully slow due to the low funding priority that historical records are given. Frank Dum Spiro Spero!

    09/04/1998 10:47:16
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. Kelly KH Sullivan
    3. My Ratliff line as best as I am able to find were from Virginia, abt 1750. From there some of the births are registered in ILL, but how they migrated there ? Then on to Arkansas, Texas and some into Oklahoma, Colorado, and my particular branch on up to Washington State. I only just now noticed the "c" in Ratcliff, I know that the Ratliff and Ratcliff are some how the same and that may be why I am unable to go further back, due to spelling changes??? One of my ancestors was named Guilford Ratliff, and I thought that the Battle of Guilford was fought in S.C. I think this ancestor was named after that battle and may have then placed the family in S.C. during that period of time, but the Battle could have been in Virginia, I will have to check. Kelly _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    09/04/1998 09:49:29
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Richard Ratcliff
    2. Boomer, I do not find a tie-in to your direct descent from Richard Ratliff (b. 1642). However, the name "Richard" repeats itself in my line below. Does one of your uncles or aunts connect to my Ratliff line noted below? Does anyone on the LIst know my Ratliff line and can add to/correct any information in the chart below? Thanks for any help. Jim Farrar 3020 Lyndale Ave., S Minneapolis, MN 55408-2934 (612) 825-8320 [email protected],com my Descendants of WILLIAM "OLD" RATLIFF, Sr (Generation 1) * Reuben Ratliff, Sr., m. Frances?? and had son named John Ratliff who married Charlotte White (Source, Larry Ratliff and Kenneth L. Dyer) * William "Old" Ratliff, Sr., b. 1731, (on 31 March 1781, William, Nathan and Richard Ratliff were members of Daniel Trigg's Company of Montgomery Co., VA Miltia), (from 1787-1796, William was in Russell Co., VA), (on 15 February 1798 William granted permission for his daughter Margaret, to marry Ezekiel Droodey in Mason Co., KY - which at that time included Floyd, Pike and several other Counties), d. between 21 September 1821 and 6 July 1825 in Floyd/Pike Co., KY, m. abt 1760 to Susanna? unknown or Martha? (These are my grandparents) * Richard Ratliff, Sr. (Source, Larry Ratliff and Kenneth L. Dyer) * Silas Ratliff, Sr. (Source, Larry Ratliff and Kenneth L. Dyer) (Generation 2) * Virgie Ratliff * Nathan Ratliff, b. abt 1762 in Botetourt/Montgomery Co., VA, (War Pension #17034) d. 5 June 1835 in Montgomery Co., VA - his will was probated here and in Pike Co., KY, (there are DAR papers for Nathan's line - see, Theodora "Teddie" Richardson), (m1) 1781 in Montgomery, VA to Martha Polly FARMER, b. 1764 in Montgomery Co., VA, d. 1802/35 in Montgomery Co., VA, 2nd wife: Patty Farmer in 1802 (Martha's sister) (These are my grandparents) * Richard Radliff, b. 1766 in Botetourt, VA, d. 1843 * James Ratliff, b. 1769 in Botetourt Co., VA, d. abt 1845 in Pike Co., KY, m. (1785-96) to Marybee/Meribah Fowler: child = Catherin (Kate) Ratliff, b. abt 1792, m. * Bradley Elswick, Sr., b abt 1785 in VA, d. 1802 in Floyd Co., KY - his parents were Johnathan and Millie Elswick * Silas Ratliff, b. March 1777 in Botetourt Co., VA, m. Nancy Anney Pinson who died in 1798 * Sarah ?Ratliff * Jeremiah Ratliff * Stephen Ratliff, b. 1780 in Botetourt Co., VA * Martha (Peggy) Ratliff, b. abt 1781 in Botetourt Co., VA * Margaret Ratliff, m. Ezekiel Droodey in Mason Co., KY - which at that time included Floyd, Pike and several other Counties * (more ?) (Generation 3) * Jeremiah Ratliff, b. 1783 in VA, m. Sarah Nester on 6 September 1803 in Montgomery Co., VA * William "Bigger" Ratliff, b. abt 1783 in Montgomery Co., VA, d. 24 November 1857 in Pike Co., KY and buried Nov 26th in Venters, KY (Wife 1-2?), married 3rd w abt 1803 in KY/VA? to Martha "Patsy" Thornsbury, b. abt 1790 in VA/KY?, d. in Pike Co., KY (These are my grandparents) * Rebecca Ratliff, b. abt 1789 in VA, m. John Akers in 1806 in Montgomery Co., VA - They moved to Pike Co., KY * John (Moody) Ratliff, b. abt 1790 in VA, (moved to Pike Co., KY), d. bef 20 July 1857, m1- Nancy Maston. m2- Nancy Nester ?, m3- Charlotte White? * Sally Ratliff, b. 1792 in VA, m. Jonas Altizar on 28 August 1819 in Montgomery, VA (Jonas' father was Emrab Altizer) * Martha Ratliff, b. 1800 in VA (twin?) * Mary Ratliff, b. 1800 in VA (twin?) * Thompson Ratliff, b. 1802 in VA, d. 13 January 1879 in Wayne Co., WV, m. * Nancy Bromley Ratliff, b. abt 1822? (Nathan's children with 2nd Wife) * William Ratliff, Jr. * Nathan Ratliff (did he have son named James, who had a son named General William Ratliff, m. Elizabeth Betsy Ford d/o Joseph who died in Pike Co., KY in 1834 - source, Teddie Richardson?) (Generation 4) * Rebecca Ratliff, b. 30 July 1804 in Montgomery Co.., Va, d. 24 August 1871 in Island Creek, Pike Co., KY and is buried in Peggy Sword Cemetery, Island Creek, KY or Mims Sword Cemetery on left fork of Island Creek, Pike Co., KY on Arthur Bell Akers Farm, m. John M. SWORD ( b. 24 May 1797 in Russell/Washington Co., VA, d. 21 September 1876 in Island Creek, Pike Co., KY and buried in Mims Sword Cemetery on left fork of Island Creek, Pike Co., KY) on 20 September 1818 in Floyd County, KY (These are my grandparents) * Sarah Ratliff, b. 1810 in KY, d, KY, m. James Swiney, (b. 1805) on 23 November 1829 in Pike Co., KY (they had 7 children) * Catherine (Kate) Ratliff,b. abt 1810 in Floyd Co., KY, d. in Pike Co., KY, m. Samual Howell, (b. 1808, d. aft 1845) on 11 August 1831 in Pike Co., KY * Silas Ratliff, b. abt 1814 in Floyd Co., KY, d. 21 August1858 in Pike Co., KY, m. Mary Jane Howell on 23 October 1833 in Pike Co., KY * Nathaniel Ratliff, b. abt 1815 in Floyd Co., KY, m. Matilda Case, (b. abt 1815) on 15 May 1834 in Pike Co., KY * Alexander H. (Harvey?) Ratliff, b. abt 1818 in Floyd Co., KY, d. 18 August 1885 in KY and buried in Dan Sloan's yard, m. Elizabeth Betta Hylton, (b abt 1819) on 13 August 1837 in Pike Co., KY * Robert Ratliff, b. abt 1820 in Floyd CO., KY, m. Mary Edwards on 6 October 1839 in Pike Co., KY * Anna (Amezelia?) Elizabeth "Liza" Ratliff, b. Feb 4/April 2, 1822 in Pike Co., KY, d. Feb 1897 in Pike Co., KY, m. James L. May, (b. 1805) on 31 January 1836 in Pike Co., KY * Lydia Ratliff, b. 1826 in Pike Co., KY, d. in Pike Co., KY, m. William H. Morgan, (b. 1829) on 18 May 1842 in Pike Co., KY * William Ratliff, Jr, b. 1829 in Pike Co., KY, d. in Pike Co., KY, m. Catherine Compton, (b. 1826) on ?? February 1847 * Susan Ratliff, b. 1830 in Pike Co., KY, d, in Pike Co., KY, m. William ? McAlister abt 1848 in Pike Co., KY Jim Farrar Minneapolis, MN 612/825-8329 <[email protected]>

    09/04/1998 07:10:17
    1. [RATLIFF-L] Richard Ratcliff
    2. Here is my why Ratcliff line. Does anyone tie in? #6392 RICHARD RATCLIFF He was born in 1642. He married Elizabeth around 1667. They had seven children. They lived at Terascoe Necks in Isle of Wight Co., Virginia. They attended the Chuckatuck Meeting. In 1702 a dispute on land boundaries between his land and Daniel Sanborn's land was settled peacefully by arbitrators. In 1703 he had 1795 pounds of tobacco seized for the use of Thomas Pitt, High Sheriff of Isle of Wight Co. Later that year he had another 180 pounds of tobacco seized for the Priest Andrew Monrod, and other church rites. In 1704, 179 pounds of tobacco were seized for the parish levies by Joseph Watts. He died in 1718 at Chuckatuck. Richard and Elizabeth's children: 1. Elizabeth was born September 21, 1668, she married February 9, 1689, James Jordan, she died June 30, 1695. 2. Sarah was born November 19, 1670, she married September 20, 1696, Joseph Kennerly. 3. Richard, see below. 4. Cornelius was born March 15, 1674, he married November 3, 1721, the widow Elizabeth Sanbourne Jordan. 5. Mary was born April 20, 1681, she married April 13, 1699, Thomas Newman. 6. John was born April 20, 1681. 7. Rebecca was born July 3, 1684, she married October 2, 1706, Richard Jordan. #3196 RICHARD RATCLIFF II Richard and Elizabeth's son Richard was born September 13, 1672, in probably Isle of Wight Co. Virginia. He moved from the Chuckatuck Meeting to the Perquimans Meeting in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. He was married first to Hannah Clare. They had no children. After her death he was remarried September 18, 1700, Elizabeth Hollowell (see Hollowell family). They also had no children. After her death he was remarried in 1706 at her home in Perquimans, the widow Damaris Nixon Pierce (see Nixon family). They had six children. In 1716 he was condemned for setting in a meeting with his hat on and declaring he had no unity with Mary Toms' (see Toms family) preaching. In 1719 he served as one of the collectors of money to repair the Lower Meeting House. When he died in 1724 he bequeathed land in Virginia and North Carolina. This branch of the family used the name Ratliff. Richard and Damaris' children: 1. Thomas. 2. Joseph, see below. 3. Elizabeth was born November 4, 1707, she died December 13, 1728. 4. Mary was born May 22, 1710, she married December 10, 1729, John Moore, had issue. 5. Sarah was born February 3, 1714, she married November 21, 1735, Thomas Winslow. 6. Huldah was born June 7, 1722, she died young. #1598 JOSEPH RATLIFF Richard and Damaris' son Joseph was born March 26, 17191. He was probably born in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. He married there at the Old Neck Meeting House, May 13, 1747, Mary Fletcher (see Fletcher family). They had five children. He died April 2, 17601. She died December 8, 1801. Joseph and Mary's children: 1. Elizabeth, see below. 2. Joseph married October 5, 1774, Sarah Newby, he died in 1787. 3. Thomas married February 3, 1779, Hannah Munden. 4. Cornelius was born February 10, 1756, he married January 10, 1781, the widow Elizabeth Saint Charles, they went to Indiana in 1810, he died April 6, 1828. 5. Richard was born November 4, 1759, he married February 22, 1784, Elizabeth "Betty" Pearson, they lived in Lenoir Co., North Carolina, in 1822 they moved to Henry Co., Indiana, he died February 11, 1826, had issue . 6. Joshua. #799 ELIZABETH RATLIFF Joseph and Mary's daughter Elizabeth was probably born around 1745, in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. She was named after her Grandmother Elizabeth Sanders. She married William Newby (see Newby family).

    09/04/1998 06:12:42
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. In a message dated 9/4/98 12:34:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Do you know who Samuel's parents were? I have a Samuel Ratliff in my line and your Birth date for him would be about right if I have him figured in the line up correctly. He had a brother George, so possibly that would account for a son named George and there are James' in our family too, so the son Jim may have been named after an uncle?? I am guessing, but do tell me if you are able, his parents names? Or where Samuel was born, maybe? Check and see if you are able to find any reference to your Samuel ever having been in Oklahoma, say around 1908 - 1910 (+ or -). Kelly >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- Kelly: The Ratcliffs I am searching for go back to the time of the Revolution. You have the same names, Samuel and George, that are in my line of Ratcliffs who lived in Barnwell District, SC at that time. I have little to no information them and am in the process of collecting data. Where did your Ratcliffs originate? Frank Trowbridge

    09/04/1998 04:58:37
    1. [RATLIFF-L] digest mode
    2. digest mode please

    09/04/1998 04:36:52
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Thompson Ratliff VA/IL/AR/TX
    2. Carollyn: I am searching for the parents of a William Ratcliff b. c1863. Could one of the Williams you said you have information on hopefully be the one I am searching for? The Ratcliffs I am researching lived in Texas, Alabama, maybe Tennessee and one son was born in Louisiana enroute to Alabama. Hope to hear from you with news of these hard to find Ratcliffs. Patricia Sparkman Ratcliff [email protected]

    09/04/1998 01:48:18
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. Kelly KH Sullivan
    3. Tammy, Do you know who Samuel's parents were? I have a Samuel Ratliff in my line and your Birth date for him would be about right if I have him figured in the line up correctly. He had a brother George, so possibly that would account for a son named George and there are James' in our family too, so the son Jim may have been named after an uncle?? I am guessing, but do tell me if you are able, his parents names? Or where Samuel was born, maybe? Check and see if you are able to find any reference to your Samuel ever having been in Oklahoma, say around 1908 - 1910 (+ or -). Kelly _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    09/03/1998 06:35:28
    1. [RATLIFF-L] Mary Jelillie RATLIFF - AL - TX
    2. Here I go again!! ;-) Our RATLIFF was really born, and not hatched or dropped from a space ship. We KNOW that we will find her parents someday, somehow. A distant cousin did a family sheet which showed that the father was named Ben J RATLIFF. I have not proven that at all. But we do know the names of her siblings. Is anyone out there from a RATLIFF family which settled in northern AL?? We have these RATLIFFs in Cullman Co, AL and in Birmingham, Jefferson Co, AL. Mary J RATLIFF married John Melton CANANT in Cullman Co and they moved with their children to TX in 1905. SHe had lost at least one brother in the steel mills in Birmingham and didn't want her sons to work at the steel plant. She had a brother named Adolphus RATLIFF who disappeared after travelling to the west. They never heard from him again. We do know that there was some connection to a RATLIFF family in Birmingham which owned a RATLIFF Store. Can anyone help? Judy Canant Descendants of Benjamin? J Ratliff 1 Benjamin? J Ratliff b: 1842 in Perry Co, AL - have not proven yet if this is the name of her father d: Aft. 1873 in AL ...2 Cade Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 ...2 Thomas Tom Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 ...2 Adolphus Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 ...2 Jane Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 ...2 George G Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 in Witnessed marriage of sister Mary in Cullman d: Bef. January 28, 1915 in Blount Co, AL?? (A George Ratliff d there & was in S Dem. paper) ...2 James A Ratliff b: Abt. 1860 (witnessed marriage bond and ceremony of sister Mary ......+Mary Ann Henderson m: December 26, 1883 in Cullman Co, AL ...2 Mary Jelillie? Ratliff b: September 06, 1865 in Chilton Co?, AL or GA ? - no proof yet d: June 24, 1929 in 9pm, LaMarque, TX - b Galveston Mem Pk, Hitchcock, TX ......+John Melton (Milton?) Canant b: January 26, 1865 in Walker Co, AL (this area was, later, Cullman Co) m: December 07, 1884 in Cullman Co, AL - Marriage bond made Dec 6, 1884-Name spelled RACKLIFF in m recds d: March 11, 1953 in Texas City, TX - b GalvestonMemPk, Hitchcock, TX Father: William "Grandpaw" Canant, CSA Mother: Amanda Missouri Yeilding ........3 William T "Willie" Canant b: September 30, 1885 in Alabama - left in 1905 for TX with family d: September 1975 in Hillister, Texas - 77624 ........... +Margaret "Mattie" McDonald b: Abt. 1886 m: December 24, 1903 in Cullman Co, AL d: Unknown in TX ........3 Female Canant b: April 02, 1887 in Cullman Co, AL - Beat 1 , do not know more ........3 Vandora Missouri "Dora" Canant b: August 15, 1889 in Cullman Co, AL, Beat 8 Wilhite's d: February 07, 1969 in Devers, Texas City, TX - b Galveston Co Mem Pk ...........+Cullen Rogers Whittington b: May 05, 1890 m: July 31, 1913 in LaMarque, Galveston Co, TX d: 1955 in Texas City, TX - b Galveston Co Mem Pk ........3 Mary Lela (Twin) Canant b: June 12, 1894 in Cullman Co, AL d: March 1975 in LeMarque, Galveston Co, TX - b Hitchcock, Galveston Co, TX ...........+Alfred C. Smith b: October 19, 1891 d: November 1963 in LeMarque, TX ........3 Lucian John (Twin) Canant b: June 12, 1894 in Cullman Co, AL d: January 1963 in East Point, GA ...........+Edith Rayzor b: September 13, 1899 in (or 9-13-1901) Denton, TX m: Bef. 1925 in unk - evidently divorced d: April 24, 1981 in Hitchcock, Galveston Co, TX b Galveston Mem Pk, HitchcockTX Father: William Rayzor ........*2nd Wife of Lucian John (Twin) Canant: ...........+Ruth b: January 03, 1905 in AL m: Abt. 1950 d: October 12, 1992 in Troy, Pike Co, AL - zip of last payment 36081 ........3 Adolphus Elmore Canant, Sr b: February 13, 1897 in Bessemer, Jefferson Co, AL d: March 21, 1970 in Naples, Collier Co, FL ........... +Clara, 1st wife of AEC Sr. m: Bef. 1924 in Texas - no issue - divorced November 8, 1930, Houston, TX ........*2nd Wife of Adolphus Elmore Canant, Sr: ...........+Leila Brinson Bryan b: October 11, 1905 in Wrightsville, Johnson Co, GA m: August 01, 1933 in Wrightsville, Johnson, Co, GA Father: Robert Burns Bryan Mother: Leah Mazie Brinson ........3 Ernest Lehman Canant b: February 24, 1901 in AL (probably Bessemer, Jefferson Co) d: January 1974 in TX ...........+Lillian Dorothy Adams b: July 05, 1903 in LaMarque, TX m: 1929 in Texas - divorced 1935 d: March 29, 1955 ........*2nd Wife of Ernest Lehman Canant: ...........+Helen McCullough b: January 26, 1905 m: Aft. 1935 in 2nd wife - no issue d: October 1980 in Lubbock, Lubbock Co, TX ........3 Fred Clifford Canant b: August 10, 1904 in AL (probably Bessemer, Jefferson Co) d: August 1972 in Baytown, TX (Harris Co, TX place of death) b Memory Gardens Cem in Baytown ...........+Ursula Tennessee Oakley b: September 26, 1905 in Galveston, TX m: March 26, 1925 in TX d: October 13, 1994 in Baytown, Harris, TX - b Memory Gardens, Baytown Father: John Louis Oakley Mother: Dibbon Edythe Oakley ...2 Harriett Hattie Ratliff b: Abt. 1866

    09/03/1998 04:41:00
    1. [RATLIFF-L] Samuel Ratliff
    2. I'm searching for the parents of Samuel RATLIFF b.1-7-1869 who married Rhoda SMITH 9-20-1890 in Johnson Co. KY. They had 13 children, Elizabeth, Jim, George, Alice, Effie, Shirley, Johnnie Goldie, Theodore, Elmer, Gladys, Malta, Odas. They ended up in Lackey, Floyd Co. Thanks for any info that anyone can give me. Tammy Davenport [email protected]

    09/03/1998 02:24:33
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Thompson Ratliff VA/IL/AR/TX
    2. Billy Ratliff Staggs: Got your message regarding your Ratliffs. They may very well be related to ours, as Florence, Williamson County, Texas was full of our Ratliffs. Also had some in Bell and Milam Counties before they moved on west. Some in New Mexico etc. Your William is probably connected. I don't have Brocks in my line but have you corresponded with [email protected]? She has some Brocks too. Your Ratliff was probably related to them by marriage. Let me know if you would like to have my Ratliff info. I have 4 Williams listed born 1790, 1853, 1859 and 1863. Maybe the one born 1790 is yours? Born in VA. Joshua is a very common name in our line, as is James. Carollyn

    09/03/1998 02:16:36
    1. Re: [RATLIFF-L] Thompson Ratliff VA/IL/AR/TX
    2. Billy Ratliff Staggs: Got your message regarding your Ratliffs. They may very well be related to ours, as Florence, Williamson County, Texas was full of our Ratliffs. Also had some in Bell and Milam Counties before they moved on west. Some in New Mexico etc. Your William is probably connected. I don't have Brocks in my line but have you corresponded with [email protected]? She has some Brocks too. Your Ratliff was probably related to them by marriage. Let me know if you would like to have my Ratliff info. I have 4 Williams listed born 1790, 1853, 1859 and 1863. Maybe the one born 1790 is yours? Born in VA. Joshua is a very common name in our line, as is James. Carollyn

    09/03/1998 02:16:31