--WebTV-Mail-825833276-1998 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit For those who may be new at family history research, here are a couple of tools which I have found to be extremely useful: 1. Use of Grantee and Grantor indexes to deeds. (These are also known as Cott indexes. Cott is the name of the man who has indexed many of the deed records throughout the country, I believe.) These indexes can be requested of the Register of Deeds in whatever county you are researching. In your request, specifiy the surname and the time period for which you need the indexes. Once you have obtained the Grantor and Grantee indexes, you can begin to order the actual deed records which you believe to be relevant to your research. The indexes will provide the name of the seller (or grantor) and the buyer (or grantee), a brief description of the property being conveyed, dates, and witnesses. Such information can be very, very valuable for several reasons, among them that often relatives bought and sold property among themselves and witnessed each other's property transactions. Often, when there was no will, this is the only way to learn the names of the heir(s) of a property owner, because heirs are usually the sellers (grantors) in a transaction conveying the property of the deceased. Creditors often pressured the sale so that they could be paid whatever debt was owed them by the deceased, so it was usual that the transaction occurred within a short period after death. Knowing the date of the property transaction can help one to estimate the year in which one's ancestor died. 2. Use of actual census records - not just the indexes to same. In the actual census records, it is wise to copy the names and other information pertaining to the ten households preceding and the ten households following that of your ancestor. This is because families who were related to each other often migrated and settled together. Also, it was not unusual for parents to deed portions of their property to their married children so that they could keep them nearby. Neighbors' children often married each other, and clues can be gained from the census records in this way, also. Once you have the indexes to the deeds, and perhaps the actual deeds as well, you can compare names thereon to the names in the neighboring households in the census records, and this may well help you to collect a whole new set of clues with which to work. Hope this helps someone! Pip --WebTV-Mail-825833276-1998 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id GAA11059; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id GAA14959; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16591; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:52:55 EDT Old-To: [email protected] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Subject: [RATLIFF-L] Parke County, Indiana Resent-Message-ID: <"kbIHjC.A.8CE.SFPD2"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/336 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I am new to the list and would like to correspond with anyone descended from Miles Ratcliff and especially those Ratcliff's in and around Parke County, Indiana. Thank your response. Tom D. ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== If you'd like to search the List archives, please visit http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in Ratliff and go from there. --WebTV-Mail-825833276-1998--

I am looking for the ancestors of Charles Clardy Ratliff. He married Letha (Mead) Brawley on 3 October 1908 in Reynolds County, MO. They are my maternal Great Grandparents. I have information on the Brawley side but nothing on the Ratliff side. Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thank you, Lisa Johnstone

I am new to the list and would like to correspond with anyone descended from Miles Ratcliff and especially those Ratcliff's in and around Parke County, Indiana. Thank your response. Tom D.

Bob, and Susan, I called Mark on the phone and then I emailed this to him. He is the one who had the Minerd info that I got. Read what he says........... -----Original Message----- From: Mark Miner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 4:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: McKnight Info >Beth, > >Thanks for the call and for the information. None of it jives with anything I have. It is not the other McKnight-Minerd marriage, which involved Mahala McKnight's niece, Minnie Minerd (born 1869) who married James O. McKnight (born 1863, died before 1910) and lived at Fredericktown, Fayette County, PA. > >In the note you sent, there are tantalizing possibilities: > >1. The Monor names reads suspiciously close to Minor, and since the witness was "Daniel Minor," I suspect this is a typo. >2. The Henry-Hester names are identical to Mahala's parents >3. Witness Daniel Minor could well have been Mahala's brother, Daniel Minerd, who lived in Wharton Township, Fayette Co, PA. > >Here's one possibility. Is it possible that "Bolila" is the same as "Barbara"? There was a Barbara Minerd who is the only sister of Mahala's we have not yet found. It's conceivable, and entirely probable, that Mahala and her sister Barbara could have married two McKnight brothers. > >We need to check the census for further information - both in PA and in OH. What do you think? > >Mark > >>>> "Beth Radcliffe" <[email protected]> 09/25 3:56 PM >>> > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert H. Moskal <[email protected]> >To: Radcliffe <[email protected]> >Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:33 PM >Subject: McKnight Info > > >>Found in one of my old notes: >>>From Lafayette magazine Vol V #1 April 1985 >>"Henry McKnight, laborer, son of Henry and Mary, born in Fayette County, >>now residing in Ohio, and Bolila S. Monor, daughter of henry and Hester, >>were married in Wharton Twsp in a common ceremony performed by J. Peters >>of Wharton Twsp. Witnesses: Daniel Minor and William McKnight. >>Certificate dated 23 November 1854. >> >>Bob >> > >

Kelly, it was RATLIFF but have seen it as RATCLIFF also

Seeking the CAUDILL man who married Sarah RATLIFF (born Oct-1893 Harlan Co, KY; died after 10-Feb-1960). They had at least one child - a son who married Lou KING (widow of French "Sam" RATLIFF). TIA, - Debi

It is ironic that there are so many similarities, but no connection. My gg grandfather Elijah Ratcliff was from Virgina and moved to Kentucky. My father (Roy W. Ratcliff) was born in Oklahoma, and his father (Ernest William Ratcliff) moved to Arkansas and then to Texas. I spent my junior high and high school years in Burke County, NC (Morganton). We moved to NC because my father was an Army recruiter. I never knew I had any KY and VA connections until I started during my family tree two years ago. I came here from Fort Knox, Ky. I wish I had know I had roots there while I was there. It is difficult doing research from Japan! [email protected] wrote: > > I am looking for family and ancestors of Elijah Ratliff. He was suppose to > have been born c 1795 in Lincoln (or Burke Co.) NC. He married Jane Tumlinson > (b. 1799 in Burke Co., NC) somewhere in Arkansas c. 1821. They then moved to > Texas shortly after that. I don't know when they moved to Arkansas. > Their children were John Jackson Ratliff, William Riley Ratliff, Eliza Jane > Ratliff, Richard F. Ratliff, & Elijah (Lige) Ratliff - all born in Texas. > I seem to have hit a wall - I really would appreciate some help. I don't know > if he had any brothers/sisters and need to find his parents name. > [email protected] > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search the List archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Type in Ratliff and go from there.

I doubt if this helps any, but I've got a George Ratcliffe born 1804 in SC. His children have a lot of the same names as your Elijah: Owen Riley,Aaron,Eliza,Elizabeth,Daniel, Edward, and Jane. I'm not sure where his parents were from.

I am looking for family and ancestors of Elijah Ratliff. He was suppose to have been born c 1795 in Lincoln (or Burke Co.) NC. He married Jane Tumlinson (b. 1799 in Burke Co., NC) somewhere in Arkansas c. 1821. They then moved to Texas shortly after that. I don't know when they moved to Arkansas. Their children were John Jackson Ratliff, William Riley Ratliff, Eliza Jane Ratliff, Richard F. Ratliff, & Elijah (Lige) Ratliff - all born in Texas. I seem to have hit a wall - I really would appreciate some help. I don't know if he had any brothers/sisters and need to find his parents name. [email protected]

Ruth, Is the John you mention a Ra T liff, or a Rat C liff ? If he is a RATLIFF, I would be interested in the will also. As My John Ratliff was from Virginia. Kelly _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Dear Sir/Madam: I don't know who posted the queries regarding the Virginia and Texas Ratliffs but please, please get in touch with Kathleen at kelleen2Ajuno.com. She is blind and has access to the computer only one hour per day. A relative reads to her. She is your cousin and mentions John, Jobe, Guilford and other names you posted. Sincerely, Gary Radcliffe

Hi, Sorry its taken me so long to answer your query but I have been out of town. The info on this John came from the St. Charlies Parish ( I think that is right) in York co., Va. I also have John's will from York co., Va. I hope I have the right parish, I'm trying to answer all my email. Will try to look up in my files and double check that. Ruth

Seeking a Harlan Co, KY man named Pleasant (alive in early 1900s). Possible surnames include WILLIAMS, DIXON, and RATLIFF. TIA, - Debi

If anyone has easy access to the 1920 Census for Harlan Co, will you please check it for the following household: 1900 Census (Harlan Co) RATTLIFF Marinda head Sept 58 41 widow KY Carline dau Oct 82 17 KY Mary J dau Jul 84 15 KY Francy dau Aug 86 13 KY Alcy A dau Nov 89 10 KY Sarah dau Oct 93 6 KY 1910 Census (Harlan Co) RATLIFF Marinda head w 50 widow KY NC Carline dau w 27 single KY Mary J. dau w 25 single KY Malla g/dau w 7 KY Lloyd g/son w 5 KY French g/son w 2 KY Walter g/son 1/12 KY Thank you VERY much! - Debi

Thank you for posting this information on Ratliff's in the Civil War...Where did the information come from? [email protected]

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:19:21 -0500 Den&Mari <[email protected]> writes: ) >>Subject: Re: "lost" postings? Does anyone know of any particular shires in England (or other UK countries) where the name RATLIFF (spelled without the 'c" or the >"dc') >>was in use in the 18th or prior centuries? I have written in my notes this, in part sent to me by another Cousin who is researching as well. At present I am unable to confirm these as facts, but it may be a good lead to start from. It is believed that the family came from Sicily (William the good and William the bad Kings of Sicily, Italy) that they were Normans who invaded and became Kings. (there was a 3rd as well, I am at a loss for his name). I am unclear how they came to the RedCliffes but adopted the name from their home. I have been trying to find the exact location of these Red Cliffes and would be happy for assistance, but I believe they are on the borderlands of Scotland. In order for the family to appear more Anglo -Saxon the name gradually changed spelling to become Ratliff and there was supposed to have been a "Town of Ratliff" out side of London. Searching for it as well or reference to it in some form of documentation. This town was where Scottish Ratcliffes settled after changing the surname to Ratliff (some went to Ireland as well). Supposedly the family was of Presbyterian Stock, and during the reign of King James of England they boarded the ship "Discovery" which was under the command of Captain John Ratcliffe. The ship was sailed to Jamestown, Virginia. I am searching for dates and documentation, but if the person who found this, or heard this from family memory (the writer is long gone) is correct this should be something that may be followed up on. My resources are limited so I am a slow searcher, if you are able to find any clues about the Ratliff families arrival in America, I would be happy to see it as well, as I can only go back to the 1750's or there abouts myself. Kelly _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

10th ky cavalry (diamonds) "yankee chasers" csa RATCLIFFE, NATHAN: Co. L Enl: 3/1/63 RATLIFF, ABENDAGO: Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, A. W.: Co. D Enl: 9/20/62 RATLIFF, BENJAMIN: Co. G RATLIFF, FREDRICK: Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, HARRISON: Co. D Enl: 9/19/62 RATLIFF, JACOB M.: Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, JAMES: Co. C Enl: 1/1/62 RATLIFF, JAMES F.: Co. C Enl: 2/10/63 RATLIFF, JAMES L.: 1st Sgt., Co. D Enl: 10/10/62 RATLIFF, JAMES T.: Co. C RATLIFF, JOHN: Lt., Co. C RATLIFF, JOHN: Co. D RATLIFF, JOHN M.: 1st Sgt., Co. F Enl: 4/5/62 RATLIFF, JOHN M.: Co. I RATLIFF, JOHN S.: Captain, Co. I Enl: 7/1/63 RATLIFF, JULIUS: Co. I Enl: 7/1/63 RATLIFF, MESHACK S.: 1st Lt., Co. G RATLIFF, MOSES: Co. I Enl: 7/11/63 RATLIFF, RICHARD H.: 5th Sgt., Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, S.: 2nd Lt., Co. C RATLIFF, S.: 1st Lt., Co. G RATLIFF, S.: 4th Sgt., Co. G Enl: 7/1/63 RATLIFF, SHADRACK: 3rd Cpl., Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, SILAS: Co. G Enl: 3/28/63 RATLIFF, SILAS W.: Co. D Enl: 9/63/62 RATLIFF, SPONIL: Co. C Enl: 1/1/63 RATLIFF, THOMPSON: Co. C Enl: 2/10/63 RATLIFF, TYRE: Co. G Enl: 2/10/63 RATLIFF, WILLIAM: Co. I Enl: 7/1/63 RATLIFF, WILLIAM: Co. C Enl: 2/12/63 RATLIFF, WILLIAM A.: Co. C Enl: 3/2/63 RATLIFF, WILLIAM O. B.: Co. D Enl: 9/22/62

>From: [email protected] >Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0600 (MDT) >To: [email protected] (Den&Mari) >Subject: Re: "lost" postings? > >1. From my earliest known ancestor (ca1790) to the present time in this >country, I have seen my surname spelled only as RATLIFF. This has made >me wonder whether the name was altered before immigration. Does anyone >know of any particular shires in England (or other UK >countries) where the name RATLIFF (spelled without the 'c" or the "dc') >was in use in the 18th or prior centuries? > >2. In 1782, a petition in Randolph County, NC, >was signed by Samuel and by Amos RATLIFF. >Does anyone know of the origins of Samuel or Amos or of the direction of >any migration of >either (or of their children) subsequent to 1782? > >3. It is a matter of public record that in 1750 in Queen Anne's County, >MD, a Richard RATLIFF >married Mary Newton. Does anyone know of >the parents, siblings, or children of either Mary >or Richard? Whether they might have migrated >to NC within the next several decades? Has anyone researched this >Richard?

Thanks to lots of very helpful folks, I have FINALLY found my Mary Jane!!! She is enumerated in the following census records: 1900 Census (Harlan Co) RATTLIFF Marinda head Sept 58 41 widow KY Carline dau Oct 82 17 KY Mary J dau Jul 84 15 KY Francy dau Aug 86 13 KY Alcy A dau Nov 89 10 KY Sarah dau Oct 93 6 KY 1910 Census (Harlan Co) RATLIFF Marinda head w 50 widow KY NC Carline dau w 27 single KY Mary J. dau w 25 single KY Malla g/dau w 7 KY Lloyd g/son w 5 KY French g/son w 2 KY Walter g/son 1/12 KY If anyone has any info on this clan. PLEASE let me know! TIA! - Debi Lyons Lewis Morgantown, WV http://members.aol.com/DLewis0991/roots.html http://members.aol.com/JLewis0991/roots/Ratliff.rtf

Thanks to my new-found "cousin" [email protected] I now have the children of George and Jane Tyler Radcliffe of Bamberg/Barnwell area SC. George (b.ca1804) had 7 children:Aaron (b.ca1835),Owen(b.1837),Eliza (b..1840),Elizabeth (b.ca1838), Daniel (b.ca.1840), Edward (b.ca.1844),and Jane (b. 1846). Owen married Margaret Jane Holman of the Orangeburg / Barnwell area. Eliza remained unmarried. I believe that Elizabeth married Samueal Hand of the Denmark,SC area. Edward and Jane disappear by the 1869 census. Do any of these names connect to anybody? Susan Hovermale