Looking for info on John J. Ratliff, b.1845 in either Al. or Ga. d. 1908 in Blount Co. Al. Married Matildia C. Scott in 1866 in Blount Co. They had five kids. Aaron 1868 Mary 1871 John 1873 Charley 1875 (My Grandfather) James M. 1878 After Matildia died,John J. married Nancy Thompson in 1879. They had two kids. Robert Marion 1882 William D. 1883

I am looking for information on Lavina Ratliff, born in Illinois 4/14/1831, died 3/6/1896 and married Henry P. Moses. Her parents were James Ratliff and Sarah Fisher. Any info on this line would be appreciated. Thanks, Jim Kyle Houston, Texas

Hi, My line so far is: Samuel Ratcliffe born about 1795 married but wife unknown, his son was William Ratcliffe born about 1820 in Over Whitacre, Warks. who married Mary Hands November 09 1843 in Over Whitacre, who was the daughter of George Hands and wife unknown. They had a son William Ratcliffe jnr born June 03 1849 and died April 13 1892 who married Elizabeth Smith( I think!) Their children are Florence Mary Ratcliffe, ( my great grandmother) Ernest Ratcliffe, Albert Ratcliffe. Any information please? Miranda

Lee Ratliff born we believe between 1858 - 1861. In Florence, williamson County, Texas (very unlikely but he may have been born before the family got to Texas in Van Buren, Arkansas). He was the son of Joseph and Frances (Harrell) Ratliff. (Joseph being the son of Guilford and Mahala Ratliff). Lee's siblings were all born in Florence, but Aunt Lu (a sister to Lee) use to tell my mother that they were from Louisiana thus her name Louisa.... may have been there for a short, but I do not know how long or even if. Back to siblings Louisa (Lu) Ratliff, born Jan 18, 1859 (we think Lee is here about 1861, but can not find documentation, and maybe because I have been looking for Lee rather than R.L. Ratliff?) Mary Ratliff, 1863 Thompson Ratliff, abt 1866 George Ratliff, abt 1869 Sam Ratliff (between 1870 - 1874) Joseph "Joe" Ratliff (my grand dad) born Aug 11, between 1874 - 1877 ( it is a long story) Andrew who was the youngest but also did not reach maturity. Frances died when my grand father was 8 and Joseph re-married to ???? who was a widow and had a daughter???? Lee was the oldest boy as far as we were told when grand dad spoke of him, He left home and evidentally did not stay around Florence, then my grand dad left home at age 11 and went to his Sister Mary who kept him, along with brother Thompson. Lee supposedly went to Cripple Creek, Colorado around the turn of the Century to run Gambling, etc. establishments there. I have an off branch cousin who has a home there and he was kind of trying to snoop around for me to see what he could find on Lee, but no word yet. Lee's dad, Joseph was a lay preacher for the Baptist congregation in Williamson county area, Frances was a Campbellite (what ever that is). The children were brought up in the faith, but Lee, Joe and Thompson all ran Saloons and gambling establishments, bootlegging etc most of their lives along with Cattle work and Ranching. George was a guard or Warden at McCalister Prison, and Sam I only know his wife's mother may have been suffering from Alzehiemer disease and she had the habit of pulling butcher knives on folks... kind of separated Sam from the rest of the siblings... There were Ratliffs in Woodward as that is where Thompson and Grand dad Joe had their Saloon and also homesteads, very good possibility Lee was in the area too. That would have been late 1890's, around 1897. Any help? Kelly ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Kelly: I am sorry but all the info that I have on R. L. (Lee) Ratliff I posted in my quiry to the list. He is the GG Grandfather of a lady who has been searching for him for 15 years and she does not have any more info on him than what i posted. He is not in my line, but I am trying to help her find him. Could you give me info on your line, ( Your R.L.'s parents, brothers, sisiters and where they were from and the years?) and maybe she can back track and somehow tie him in ? Her R.L. went to Oklahoma, after Texas and worked for the Railroad. Any help will be greatly appreciated!! Thanks, Brad Ratliff, Houston, Texas

Do you know who your Lee Ratliff's folks were. We have a Lee that kind of up and disappeared on us and he was in Texas, Oklahoma but may have gone on to Cripple Creek, Colo. around the turn of the Century. Lee was born, we think 1858 to 1861. Making him in his 30's about the time frame you speak of, but if he were like his other brothers marrying at 30 was not uncommon. Kelly ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am trying to find info on a R. L. (Lee) Ratliff that worked for the railroad and married a Carrie D. Ragsdale on October 2, 1895 in Jacksonville, Texas, Cherokee County. They were married for 1 1/2 to 2 years and had 1 daughter, Connie Jo Ratliff b. 6-29-1896 in Jacksonville, Texas. Any information will be appreciated. Thanks, S. B. Ratliff,

SWEM (Virginia Historical Index) has many references to Ratcliffs and Ratliffs. The one which interests me at the moment is for Samuel Ratcliff, and the citation is 1T169, indicating "Tyler's Historical and Genealogical Quarterly" as the information source. Has anyone looked this up, and if so, would you be willing to tell me what the substance is of the citation? Pip

[email protected] wrote: > > New member to list > Researching RADCLIFFE > ASHTON-UNDER-LYNE, GLOSSOP, MARPLE BRIDGE > > KEN RANSON > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > Please rememember to keep your signature lines no larger than > four (4) lines, and NO surnames in signature lines other than your > own name as your signature. The archive search engine > will score a "hit" on any surnames listed in a signature line. Hi, Ken, My immigrant ancestor was Daniel Stephen Radcliff b. 1714 England d. 1784 now lewis Co., WV. Had 8 sons and 2 daughters. Descendants in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and Kentucky. Gary Radcliffe

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In a message dated 10/1/98 12:09:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I can't help with your Geore, but could you explain how you connected to Samuel , oops! was this the Samuel, Sr. or Samnuel, jr. who were in the Lynch's Creek area of SC, or some other Samuel. Jane >> ________________________________- Dear Jane, I am not sure if my Samuel is connected to the Lynches Creek Ratcliffs or not. I traced him through Clarence Ratcliff's records of the Johnston Co., NC (Kinston, NC) Ratcliff branch which migrated to Orangeburgh Dist., SC right around the time of the Revolution. From that point on, I simply relied on what land records remained and the location of Samuel Ratcliffe's land with respect to land belonging to my known Walker line into which Samuel's daughter, Lydia, married William Walker in 1799. The Orangeburgh Dist. records for anything before the Civil War are forever lost to the flames of war so I have had to make some assumptions based on less than perfect proof but I feel that I am on solid ground with this particular assumption. Both Samuel Ratcliffe and Nathaniel Walker, Jr. (William's father) were large landowners in the area along the Edisto River, south of the town of Orangeburgh. They received SC State land grants at about the same time and this is possibly the mechanism which brought their children , William and Lydia, together. The Walkers were prominent Baptists and land surveyors in the area. In fact, Nathaniel was a preacher on the side and may have preached at a revival meeting at a church which Samuel and his family attended. He and his father had been disowned by the Quakers due to their participation in the Revolution and Samuel probably joined the Baptist church. I know my claim is based on less than perfect proof but its the best I have been able to come up with so far. I would welcome any better proof. Frank Trowbridge Dum Spiro Spero!!

In a message dated 98-10-01 00:54:03 EDT, you write: << Quaker background in Ratcliff families. >> Mine are Quaker RATCLIFF #6392 RICHARD RATCLIFF He was born in 1642. He married Elizabeth around 1667. They had seven children. They lived at Terascoe Necks in Isle of Wight Co., Virginia. They attended the Chuckatuck Meeting. In 1702 a dispute on land boundaries between his land and Daniel Sanborn's land was settled peacefully by arbitrators. In 1703 he had 1795 pounds of tobacco seized for the use of Thomas Pitt, High Sheriff of Isle of Wight Co. Later that year he had another 180 pounds of tobacco seized for the Priest Andrew Monrod, and other church rites. In 1704, 179 pounds of tobacco were seized for the parish levies by Joseph Watts. He died in 1718 at Chuckatuck. Richard and Elizabeth's children: 1. Elizabeth was born September 21, 1668, she married February 9, 1689, James Jordan, she died June 30, 1695. 2. Sarah was born November 19, 1670, she married September 20, 1696, Joseph Kennerly. 3. Richard, see below. 4. Cornelius was born March 15, 1674, he married November 3, 1721, the widow Elizabeth Sanbourne Jordan. 5. Mary was born April 20, 1681, she married April 13, 1699, Thomas Newman. 6. John was born April 20, 1681. 7. Rebecca was born July 3, 1684, she married October 2, 1706, Richard Jordan. #3196 RICHARD RATCLIFF II Richard and Elizabeth's son Richard was born September 13, 1672, in probably Isle of Wight Co. Virginia. He moved from the Chuckatuck Meeting to the Perquimans Meeting in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. He was married first to Hannah Clare. They had no children. After her death he was remarried September 18, 1700, Elizabeth Hollowell (see Hollowell family). They also had no children. After her death he was remarried in 1706 at her home in Perquimans, the widow Damaris Nixon Pierce (see Nixon family). They had six children. In 1716 he was condemned for setting in a meeting with his hat on and declaring he had no unity with Mary Toms' (see Toms family) preaching. In 1719 he served as one of the collectors of money to repair the Lower Meeting House. When he died in 1724 he bequeathed land in Virginia and North Carolina. This branch of the family used the name Ratliff. Richard and Damaris' children: 1. Thomas. 2. Joseph, see below. 3. Elizabeth was born November 4, 1707, she died December 13, 1728. 4. Mary was born May 22, 1710, she married December 10, 1729, John Moore, had issue. 5. Sarah was born February 3, 1714, she married November 21, 1735, Thomas Winslow. 6. Huldah was born June 7, 1722, she died young. #1598 JOSEPH RATLIFF Richard and Damaris' son Joseph was born March 26, 17191. He was probably born in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. He married there at the Old Neck Meeting House, May 13, 1747, Mary Fletcher (see Fletcher family). They had five children. He died April 2, 17601. She died December 8, 1801. Joseph and Mary's children: 1. Elizabeth, see below. 2. Joseph married October 5, 1774, Sarah Newby, he died in 1787. 3. Thomas married February 3, 1779, Hannah Munden. 4. Cornelius was born February 10, 1756, he married January 10, 1781, the widow Elizabeth Saint Charles, they went to Indiana in 1810, he died April 6, 1828. 5. Richard was born November 4, 1759, he married February 22, 1784, Elizabeth "Betty" Pearson, they lived in Lenoir Co., North Carolina, in 1822 they moved to Henry Co., Indiana, he died February 11, 1826, had issue . 6. Joshua. #799 ELIZABETH RATLIFF Joseph and Mary's daughter Elizabeth was probably born around 1745, in Perquimans Co. North Carolina. She was named after her Grandmother Elizabeth Sanders. She married William Newby (see Newby family).

Anybody out ther decended from a John Radcliffe of Clearwater, Florida? He moved ther in the early 1900's from Barnwell Co.SC. He was a son of Owen R. Radcliffe. I've heard he had 2 daughters, but don't know about sons. Susan Hovermale

Dear Frank, I can't help with your Geore, but could you explain how you connected to Samuel , oops! was this the Samuel, Sr. or Samnuel, jr. who were in the Lynch's Creek area of SC, or some other Samuel. Jane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [RATLIFF-L] New Thread..Success Story >For many years, too many to relate, all I knew about my ancestor, Lydia >RATCLIFFE, m Dec. 31, 1799 to William Walker in Barnwell Dist., SC was that >her father was named SAMUEL. I posted several messages to this list, >imploring anyone who had anything about a Lydia Ratcliffe who would have been >in SC at this time to please share it with me, all to no avail. > >About a month ago, Gary Radcliffe enclosed the web address of Donald Ratcliff >http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/1719/index.html >and said that it contained the most detailed list of Rat(c)liffs he had ever >seen. I visited the list and, voila!, I was able to connect my Lydia's Samuel >to the mainline Ratcliff stream that flowed back to 1066ad. Boy, has it ever >turned my quest around! Now, I feel able to help other Orangeburgh/Barnwell >Co.,SC researchers because of my "find". > >Thank you Gary for pointing me in this direction. Now, since you spell your >name with a "d" in it, perhaps you can help me with another Radcliffe >descendant who is researching the parentage of one GEORGE RADCLIFFE, b. 1806, >who lived in Barnwell District until some time after the 1860 census. I am >attempting to help her and am sorta stuck as to his father's name. I think it >may have been John and that he died some time after the 1820 census. I found >a John Ratcliffe in Orangeburgh Dist. in 1820 who had a son who could have >been George's age. He was not listed in the 1830 census. I found a Charlotte >Ratcliffe in the 1830 Barnwell Dist. census who lived in the same neighborhood >that George lived in the 1850 census. I theorize that John died and his >widow's family lived in Barnwell Dist. and she went to live with them. There >was one old man in Charlotte's family who could have been her father and a son >of the right age group could have been George. Have you possibly ever heard >of this family? George had sons, Aaron (b. 1835) and Owen (b. 1837-d.1927) >Frank > >[email protected] >Dum Spiro Spero!!! > > >==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== >Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes >problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. >Please turn these functions off. The following URL explains how >to correct the problem in various programs. >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm > > >

Thank you, Frank I had explored his page, but was somewhat overwhelmed. Your pointers will help and I'll try again. Will also post to Quaker list. Have been 'lurking' there as had read of possibility of the Quaker background in Ratcliff families. Hey, maybe first step to success! [email protected] ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Dorothy, > Have you ever visited Donald Ratcliff's home page? It is > http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Campus/1719/index.html > (snip) > 1 Aug 1772, Ann Ratcliff and daughters Sarah, Elizabeth and Ann received on > Certificate from Lower Falling Creek MM and transferred to Cane Creek MM > (102c). > > This sounds suspiciously like it could be your Elizabeth. If she were b. in > 1758, she would be 14 in 1772 and still living with her parents. As you > probably know, these Ratcliffs were Quakers and referred to themselves as > "Friends." I don't know where this Friends Meeting House was located but at > least it was in NC, somewhere in the vicinity of Kinston. >

In the two years during which I have researched my ancestry, I have really not been able to find anything beyond which others, now retired from the effort, had been able to locate some 15 or 20 years ago. Someday, I hope to be able to find the origins of my gggggrandfather, Richard Ratliff, who died at a mature age in Anson County, NC, ca1811. My only hope is that "new" records will eventually surface, because to date all I have been able to do is retrace steps covered by relatives in earlier decades. Meanwhile, I try to be as thorough as possible. Small rewards occur in obtaining and studying deed records, claims for bounty land grants, and the like. Sometimes I can fill in minor "blanks". Also, I enjoy reading history of all periods, which helps a lot to visualize the lives of those who came before us. One book which I highly recommend to those who are researching colonial ancestors is ALBION'S SEED. I do not have the author's name with me, but the book is currently available or can be ordered at a Barnes and Noble or similar. It is softbound and costs under $20.00. In its approximately 1,000 pages, the author explains folkways and traditions of the 4 major immigrant groups to this continent: Quakers, Anglicans, Puritans, and what he describes as the "border people" - those who came here from near the English-Scottish border. Of special help to me was the author's explanation of various conventions for naming children. Each group used a different method - often followed for generation after generation. His explanation may well provide clues to the forename of an otherwise "lost" ancestor. One can see that among the various Ratliff branches to which one is exposed in this list, family names differ. In one branch we see the same names used over and over, yet the same names do not necessarily appear in another branch. This may provide clues as to the religious preference of each family. Try getting a copy of the book . You won't regret it. One suggestion: when you compile your genealogy for distribution, regardless of your chosen medium, please give credit to those, whether living or deceased, upon whose earlier work you have built. Doing so will demonstrate your appreciation for their work and your fair mindedness. Pip

My great-grandfather found himself in a sticky situation in Wayne Co.,Tn and so he left that county and moved into middle central AL. Loosing all contact with his family back home he settled down, got married and started a family. Not much was spoken about his family and his children grew up not knowing much about them. You could say he became the lost relative and his line the unknown line. So I had a special interest in this mysterious line. My husband and I took a short one- day trip to TN and combed the cemetries in the area, but nothing much came up... just names I didn't recognize. So I sat on that information for three or four years and got nowhere. I decided it was time for another trip to Wayne Co.,TN. This time we skipped the trips to the cemeteries and courthouse and stopped at the nearest service station. I mentioned the last name of Moore that I was researching. The man behind the counter smiled and said, "I have a book here on the history of the families of Wayne Co. You can look in it. I think the Moores are in there." As I searched through the book, there in black and white was my g-grandfathers name. I began to tremble. :Where can I get one of these books?" I asked. "Oh, they're not for sale anymore, but the man who wrote it lives just around the road. I'll call him and see if he's at home." One call and a short trip later found me at the home of a seasoned researcher who had his own library of research books. I sat and talked with him for hours. He could recite the whole family history without opening a book. Not only did I get the history of the Moore family, but all families that connect to that surname. So my suggestion is..... travel. Don't research from afar. Go there, and do the one thing you can't do from home. Talk to people.... anyone and everyone. You will find someone who knows someone who knows exactly what your looking for. Name drop........ Tell everyone the name you are researching. And don't forget to use the phonebook. Becky

Last month I was just sitting at my computer going through an old list of queries from 1996. I've only been online for about 6 months, so I had not seen these yet. While going through this "Old" list, I found someone with a reference to Cornelius and Anna Ratliff's daughter Harriett Hecker. As it turns out I found a cousin. Her great grandmother (Harriett Ratliff Hecker) and my great grandfather (William C. Ratliff) were brother and sister! When going through the queries, don't just search the recent entries....go to the "old" ones as well....Her message was over two years old when I found it!. Cindy [email protected]

I have lots of Ratliff info searched out, just not much time this week to get it out again, I did put it up a couple times in previous messages. Dan ---------- > From: Den&Mari <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RATLIFF-L] Re: RATCLIFF > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 3:03 PM > > So would I! :) However, you needn't limit your success story to Ratliff. > If you have found a method that has brought you success in another line, > please share it. Sometimes learning a method someone else has had good > fortune with, can also lead to success for ourselves! Every last one of us > can use a new method/trick/resource or two! > Mari > > > At 05:42 PM 9/30/98 -0400, you wrote: > :I like Elizabeth would also like a RATCLIFF success story to share with > :everyone, but so far no luck. > : > :Still searching for the parents of William Price Ratcliff, b. c1863 TN. and > :later moved to TX. From TX moved to AL. He d. 26 Dec. 1919 in Fairfax, AL > : > :Patricia Sparkman Ratcliff > : > : > :==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > :Send NO attachments of any kind to the list. If your email program > :automatically generates attachments for coding, please be sure it is > :turned off. If you have a document or other file of interest, please > :send it to individual addresses rather than to the list. The guideline > :also includes the "vcards" attachments. > : > > > ==== RATLIFF Mailing List ==== > Neither HTML nor RTF is acceptable for mailing lists. It causes > problems for Rootsweb servers and for certain email programs. > Please turn these functions off. The following URL explains how > to correct the problem in various programs. > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm > >