Marsil, Thanks for the information on Jacob Ramey. I had his birth date as 1640 instead of 1630. It must have been a typo from the person who sent it to me. 1630 makes a lot more sense. Thanks again. Lois arthur in Indiana [email protected] ----------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : Lois, : If not one else has mentioned this-I show a date of birth on old : Jacob of ca 1630 so he would have been 24. And naturally, Miles as : a surname for Mary is unproven. I am of the Marmaduke persuasion : myself. : : ____ : : Marsil in the Land of UFO's, Aliens, and weather balloons. :