Thanks to all of you who sent information on the title of the Ramey Book. for my book search. Also, I have heard of the Amazon online book store but never thought of it. If Wilma can get copies of the book, I will get one of those instead of waiting for a book search. I will let the mailing list know what the book search comes up with, however, if anything. Ok, having said that, now to serious stuff. I don't think that Rameys are related to red headed Celtics. My Arthurs probably were. They were all red headed until about the turn of the century when my husband's grandfather married a Black Foot Sioux Indian called Applebug. Now they are all wild, black headed Arthurs. Thanks to the Ramey bloodline in my ancestory, I have been able to tame this wild streak by producing a handsome, perfect son who is now at that wonderful age of 14. My husband in in the background laughing uncontrolably I can't imagine what is wrong with him. I think all of us with Ramey genes can create a much better world and thus live in tolerance of those of us who talk about such things on the mailing list. Am I right, or what? I'm sorry. Jeannie, Shirley and Marsil are to blame for my behavior. Lois Arthur in Indiana [email protected]