Ken and Leslie, I know that all RAMEY researchers appreciate what you are doing, especially those of us that have not connected to the main line. This may possibly give us the clues we need. Again, thank you both for your hard work, Doris Haff [email protected] Researching these surnames: Readnour, Ramey, New, Coon, Henzler, Jump and others See my family tree at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5170/gnealogy.htm