You are so right........wish I had thought of that... :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 1998 7:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Origins of Ramey Name the way i understand it, the music scales were written after the ramey family. do ramey fa so la ti do. isnt that just too cool? rick