Marsil, You win. Your ancestors really outdid mine. I am impressed. If you want, I will send you the feather from my outback hat, but I'm keeping the hat. I joined the list right at the time of the CD problem. I never did know what it was all about. I guess that someone wanted to sell a CD of The Ramey Book and didn't follow through. Anyway, if there is a way of getting a copy of the book without getting beaten up or something, please let me know. By the way Marsil, have you gotten a good look at Elizabeth Taylor lately? Lois Arthur Indiana