Hi Marsil: Thanks for your post. I do know of one Bettie Ramey confederate pension application from Texas. She was the wife of John Milton Ramey, George Williams son. Her application was number 33162. I have corresponded with her family on several occasions and her full name was Cora Elizabeth Harrington. I do not see another pension application on the index for a Bettie. I did stumble on a Martha J. Ramey application which shows husband Stephen Barton from Upshur County that I had not seen before and I have requested a copy today. With regards to when they came to Texas, my great aunt, who was the authority on all of this swears that it was 1859. I have been unable to locate them on any 1860 census at this time. I also have not located anything on his civil war history, which might pinpoint where he enlisted from. I do know that his brother William Francis enlisted in the spring of 1862 in Company I of the Texas 26th Calvery - B Debreys Regiment according to his pension application. In his application he indicates that he moved to Trinity, Trinity County, Texas in 1861. This would fit with the 1859 date, in which they came to neighboring Polk County. Since William Francis and George William supposedly came to Texas together, I think that my great aunt was right in her 1859 date. Thanks for your input and help. I hope you will look at the pension application you have and see if its the Bettie - John Milton Ramey's wife or if its another one. If it is indeed another one, I sure would appreciate your sending me the file number so that I can request it from the state. By the way, I get grumpy at lunch time as well. Thanks again. Tom Ramey -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech <MARCREECH@Prodigy.Net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey >Hi Tom an other interested people, > Bettie's pension application is filed in Texas. I''ll try to dig it up >and send you a copy. > I will admit there is some confusion about all of this.In the pension >papers that George served with a Texas unit during the civil war. Now I >guess that doesn't necessarily mean he lived in Texas at the time. However, >it appeared to me that he did but info doesn't fit with his arrival in >Texas. > The state of Texas has their pension applications index on line. They >are easy to to find and they only charged me $2.00 for the entire file. > Maybe reading this with a different view point might help. I was looking >for my old George W. Reamy. > I seem to be jumping around here but the pension application was under >Widow's applications. > >More later-seems as if I know an Old Grumpy that wants lunch. You know that >Old Grumpy's can't fix their own lunches. > >Marsil >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> >To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:48 PM >Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > >> Hello Marsil and others: >> I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info >everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm >following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great >grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did >not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to >reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time >they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, >Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. >I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family >information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. >This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen >several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? >Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County >Mississippi as George Ramey ! >> ! >> age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in >Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane >in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in >Trinity County twice. >> I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel >Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. >> I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension >application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of >it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included >Jane? >> While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George >W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a >Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there >was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. >According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if >Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not >and if he is Garn or Sam? >> Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. >Tom Ramey >> >> >> >> ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to >RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body >type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >> > > >==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

Well Tom, One thing I have learned with genealogy-all things are possible. At this point I feel that the pension application did state she was the wife of George W. but then again I haven't dug it up yet either. This is of course of no value, my sister lives very near Trinity. She goes over there to look for antiques often. She stopped in the Ramey Antique store. They discussed genealogy for a bit-the Rameys at the store said their Rameys came from SC. Just another rod in the fire- Peope do get their memories confused with other stuff sometimes. I know I do,. I'll start digging. My gracious, you ask a lot of a poor old gal. Cleo Queen of DE NIAL ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 11:11 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > Hi Marsil: > Thanks for your post. I do know of one Bettie Ramey confederate pension > application from Texas. She was the wife of John Milton Ramey, George > Williams son. Her application was number 33162. I have corresponded with > her family on several occasions and her full name was Cora Elizabeth > Harrington. I do not see another pension application on the index for a > Bettie. I did stumble on a Martha J. Ramey application which shows husband > Stephen Barton from Upshur County that I had not seen before and I have > requested a copy today. > With regards to when they came to Texas, my great aunt, who was the > authority on all of this swears that it was 1859. I have been unable to > locate them on any 1860 census at this time. I also have not located > anything on his civil war history, which might pinpoint where he enlisted > from. I do know that his brother William Francis enlisted in the spring of > 1862 in Company I of the Texas 26th Calvery - B Debreys Regiment according > to his pension application. In his application he indicates that he moved > to Trinity, Trinity County, Texas in 1861. This would fit with the 1859 > date, in which they came to neighboring Polk County. > Since William Francis and George William supposedly came to Texas together, > I think that my great aunt was right in her 1859 date. > Thanks for your input and help. I hope you will look at the pension > application you have and see if its the Bettie - John Milton Ramey's wife or > if its another one. If it is indeed another one, I sure would appreciate > your sending me the file number so that I can request it from the state. > By the way, I get grumpy at lunch time as well. Thanks again. Tom Ramey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marsil Creech <MARCREECH@Prodigy.Net> > To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > > >Hi Tom an other interested people, > > Bettie's pension application is filed in Texas. I''ll try to dig it up > >and send you a copy. > > I will admit there is some confusion about all of this.In the pension > >papers that George served with a Texas unit during the civil war. Now I > >guess that doesn't necessarily mean he lived in Texas at the time. However, > >it appeared to me that he did but info doesn't fit with his arrival in > >Texas. > > The state of Texas has their pension applications index on line. They > >are easy to to find and they only charged me $2.00 for the entire file. > > Maybe reading this with a different view point might help. I was > looking > >for my old George W. Reamy. > > I seem to be jumping around here but the pension application was under > >Widow's applications. > > > >More later-seems as if I know an Old Grumpy that wants lunch. You know that > >Old Grumpy's can't fix their own lunches. > > > >Marsil > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Tom Ramey <tramey@txucom.net> > >To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:48 PM > >Subject: [RAMEY-L] George William Ramey > > > > > >> Hello Marsil and others: > >> I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info > >everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm > >following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great > >grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did > >not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to > >reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time > >they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, > >Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, > Texas. > >I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my > family > >information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in > Mississippi. > >This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have > seen > >several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? > >Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County > >Mississippi as George Ramey ! > >> ! > >> age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in > >Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane > >in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in > >Trinity County twice. > >> I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel > >Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. > >> I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension > >application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of > >it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included > >Jane? > >> While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists > George > >W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a > >Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, > there > >was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. > >According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if > >Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not > >and if he is Garn or Sam? > >> Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. > >Tom Ramey > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > >RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the > body > >type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >> > > > > > >==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > >To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to > RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body > type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > > > > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >