Hello Marsil and others: I am new to the Roots list and I apologize if I'm duplicating info everyone has. I've searched the archives and haven't seen this info so I'm following up on Jo Ed's post and Marsil's reply. I am the great great grandson of George William Ramey and a double cousin of Joe Ed Lamb. I did not receive Marsil's prior correspondence or I would have been happy to reply. I have pretty good info on George W. and his family from the time they got to Texas in abt 1859 to 1865. They basically settled in Trinity, Trinity County, Texas after a very brief stop in Coweta, Polk County, Texas. I read with much interest your reply to Jo Ed in that according to my family information, George W. was married to a Martha Jane Langston in Mississippi. This is per my great aunt Pearl Ramey Rawlings before she died. I have seen several notations on WFT and the interenet that he was married to a ? Roberts instead. He is recorded on the 1850 census in Chickasaw County Mississippi as George Ramey age 25, born in Alabama, with wife Jane Ramey, age 22 or 23, born in Alabama, and son John. I of course now wonder if Bettie Roberts had a Jane in her name or if George W. had two wives in Missippi. He remarried in Trinity County twice. I descend from his son Joseph Robert Ramey, through his son, Samuel Crawford, through my father, Joe Sam. I would appreciate your sharing with me the state that Betties Pension application is from (I assume Mississippi) so that I can obtain a copy of it. Does it indicate what happened to the marriage or if her name included Jane? While I'm posting, I have one other question: the 1850 census lists George W.'s brother William Francis in in Monroe County in the household of a Bright and with another Ramey, "Joseph". According to family stories, there was a brother that stayed in Mississippi, but he is identified only as Sam. According to WFT posting there was a brother Garn. Does anyone know if Joseph who is also on the 1860 census in Monroe is indeed a brother or not and if he is Garn or Sam? Thanks for reading and of course, I'll be glad to share any info I have. Tom Ramey