sorry for the length of this!! Milton Ramey married the daughter of Thomas Gunn, and Francis Kilgore, Pheobe Lea Gunn. Francis Kilgore was the daughter of Thomas Kilgore, "First settler of Robertson Co. Tenn." The daughter of Milton Ramey, - Lenora Caroline Ramey was my gggm. I have been looking for Milton Ramey. May be connected with the Benjamin Ramey line Ramey in Lincoln Co.Tn. or the Randolph Ramey line in Montgomery Co. Tenn. >From Family letters in late 1800s connect in Alabama but do not know how they connect. The letters I have connect with another person's Rameys in the area of Go Lightly, Birmingham Ala. Any leads, help, response, ideas, any and all appreciated! A Sawyer searching2@mindspring.com Descendants of Thomas IV Gunn Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS IV5 GUNN (THOMAS III4, THOMAS II3, THOMAS I2, NATHANIEL PISTOL1) was born April 10, 1770 in Nottoway Co. Va., and died May 13, 1859 in Robertson Co., Tenn.. He married (1) MARTHA GRAVES September 1792 in Caswell Co. N.C.. He married (2) MARTHA MILES 1814. He married (3) FRANCIS KILGORE January 09, 1825 in Robertson Co TN, daughter of THOMAS KILGORE and PHEOBE LEA. Notes for THOMAS IV GUNN: About 1791 Thomas moved to Caswell County, North Carolina and in the Spring of 1811, followed his brother James to the Red River Area, settling in Logan Co. Ky. and Thomas settled just across the river in Robertson Co. When about 70 years of age Thomas Gunn fell from his horse and he suffered a dislocated hip which was never set, leaving one leg shorter than the other. Page 297 Robertson Co. Co. Ct. Record Book 14 page 360. January 3rd 1857 County Ct. Mintue Book 14 page 360. Robertson Co. Tn. January 3, 1859. Information to the court by James T. Gunn that his father, Thomas Gunn who resided within the County of Robertson is from extreme old age and imbecility of mind wholly incapacitated to attend to his business affairs or to make contracts of any sort………summons a jury to ascertain the idiosey or Lunacy of the said Thomas Gunn. This document gives the ages of Phoebe Ramey age about 32, Caroline Gunn age about 30 and Harriett Henry aged about 28 years. Will on file in Robertson County Tenn. Archives: Will Book 16 page 794. Names wife Frances, Phebe Raimey, Francis C. Gunn and Harriett L. Gunn. In the will of Thomas Gunn, it mentions a Kentucky Land Grant received. At some point the line between Tenn. and Ky. changed. and it would help also to investigate Kentucky records. From: Methodism in Tennessee "Thomas Gunn was licensed to preach on the 14th of May 1784...." This would mean that Thomas Gunn was just fourteen years of age. To me this is questionable. Notes for FRANCIS KILGORE: Frances Kilgore was the daughter of Thomas Kilgore who was the "first settler of Robertson County, Tenn. Thomas Gunn Bible gives date of birth of the children of Thomas and Frances and also gives birthdate of both Frances and Thomas and also marriage date. 1850 Census Robertson Co. Tenn has Frances Gunn living in the household of daughter, Harriett Gunn Henry. This was some time before the death of Thomas Gunn. Frances Gunn reportedly lived with Pheobe Lea Gunn Ramey and Milton Ramey after the death of Thomas Gunn and may have moved to North Carolina. Descendants of J. Milton Ramey Generation No. 1 1. J. MILTON2 RAMEY (RANDOLPH1) was born 1815 in Granville Co., N.C.. He married PHEOBE LEA GUNN May 03, 1842 in Robertson Co. Tenn, daughter of THOMAS GUNN and FRANCIS KILGORE. Notes for J. MILTON RAMEY: There is some question as to when J. Milton Ramey died. He was a Methodist circuit rider, appointed in 1837. CHEATHAM COUNTY was established February 28, 1856, out of parts of DAVIDSON, ROBERTSON, DICKSON and MONTGOMERY Counties, all of which were originally the CUMBERLAND DISTRICT and then DAVIDSON COUNTY. Cheatham was so small when established that no part of it was ever taken to make parts or all of any other counties. On the account sale of Estate of Thomas Gunn, Estate Settlement Loose Papers 1850-1900. Robertson Co. "I find charged by J. T., Gunn guardian as afore said against Milton Ramy a note put in his hand for collection in the amount of 225.00. Also for hire of boy Jake for the year 1855, 1000. For the hire of boy Jake for the year 1856 and 1857. For 1856 $150.00, 1857 $125.00 in all 275 in all. 1857 in cash loaned 300.00. For hire of Boy Jake for 1858 175.00 March 1861. 1850 Montgomery Co. Tennessee Census Ramey Milton 35, Phebe L. 21, Melville S. 6. Thomas R. 3, Ruford M. 2 Ramey, Samuel 44, Milly 37,, Jacob A. 17, James M. 16, Margaret E 14, Mary A. 12, Nancy C. 8, Elizabeth 5, Emma 4, Solomon 3, Martha 1 Ramey, Jane 67 born in Va. 1860 on Cheatham Co. Tenn Census age 44, F.L age 34 (This is probably Pheobe Lea), M.S age 16 [This is probably Melville Summerfield] age 16, T.B. [This is probably Thomas B.) age13, R. [this is probably Ruford] age 10, L [Lenora} age 7, and T.V. age 5 and a female.(Do not know who the last entry is) 1870 Census there is a James M Ramey age 36 gives birthplace as Tenn living in Clarksville, Tn. Montgomery County. A Wellis age 20, a Sam E. 37 born in Tenn., Montgomery Co, and a Milly age 56 born in N. C. living in Montgomery Co. At this point 7/2000 I do not know who these Rameys are. The Ramey marriage other than Milton Ramey is James M. Ramey married to Deliah Arnold in 1856 and wonder if this is the above Ramey. Interesting as seen below Ruford Ramey mentions wife of his youth as Deliah Arnold.........but he was not James M. Ramey. This needs further investigation. Extracted from The Goodspeed History of Tennessee, 1886. Methodist Church mentions Milton Ramey as an elder in the church. At this time 7/00 it is not known if the father of J. Milton Ramey is Benjamin Ramey or Randolph Ramey. Further research is needed in Tennessee before this can be determined. When this was researched back in the 1930s, my great aunt was told by the researcher that J. Milton Ramey descended from Randolph Ramey. He may be descended from the Jacques Remey line who was born abt. 1630 in Lorraine, France and died in 1721 in Westmoreland Co. Va. Have two coded letters supposedly written by James Milton Ramey who was a spy during the Civil War. That because of his status as a circuit rider he was able to pass between the north and south lines more easily. This is only a family story and yet to be proven. A daughter of Lenora Caroline "Carry" Ramey states, "I saw the old homestead occupied by my grandparents (Pheobe Lea Gunn and J. Milton Ramey.) I have a picture of the house in the photo album of the daughter of Caroline Ramey which was given to me by a cousin in the year 2,000, along with many family letters. Notes for PHEOBE LEA GUNN: Birthdate from Thomas Gunn bible. Middle name Lea was taken from her mother's family in Caswell County. Either married in Cheatham or Robertson Co. Tennessee. Marriage Notes for J. RAMEY and PHEOBE GUNN: Marriage in Robertson Co. Marriages - page 50. Children of J. RAMEY and PHEOBE GUNN are: i. FANNIE3 RAMEY. ii. RUFORD (RUFUS) RAMEY. Notes for RUFORD (RUFUS) RAMEY: Ruford died in the Durham County Poor House as he had signed his house over to the son of his last wife and the son would not care for him in his old age. Having no money and no place to live the "Durham County Home" was where he finished out his days. In one of his letters he mentions his children and a wife of his youth and further stated that they did not know him. The name mentioned was Delina Arnold as the "wife of his youth". Of interest is that in 1854 a Rufus Ramey was listed as a buyer at the sale of property of Hames Harrison. Book R. page 194, Caswell Co. N. C. Also in Book Q page 478 Edward Ramey was a buyer at the estate of John Brooks along with James W. Featherston. iii. THOMAS B. RAMEY, b. March 20, 1846; d. November 02, 1915, Huntsville, Ala.; m. ELIZINA RAMEY. Notes for THOMAS B. RAMEY: Birthdate from Thomas Gunn Bible. >From letters it appears that he had three wives. One was Elzina Ramey, supposedly the mother of Samuel Ramey Notes for ELIZINA RAMEY: Married Thomas B. Ramey, son of J. Milton Ramey about 1910. Elzina had a son, Sam, evidently an adult in the 1920s and it is not known whose son this is. 2. iv. LENORA CAROLINE RAMEY, b. 1853, Tenn.; d. 1917, Wake County, N.C.. v. MELVILLE SUMMERFIELD RAMEY, b. October 16, 1843. Notes for MELVILLE SUMMERFIELD RAMEY: Birthdate from Thomas Gunn Bible. >From letters Aunt Ila F. Cox states Melville and Mother died early before 1865. Melville S. Ramey served with the 49 Tennessee Infantry (Confederate) Co. K as a private. Of interest is that a Melvin S. Ramey born 1814 and died June 17, 1870 is buried in the Gunn Cemetery on Dowlen Rod farm owned by James D. Ayres in a field east of his home. It is not known at this time which Ramey this could be. Generation No. 2 2. LENORA CAROLINE3 RAMEY (J. MILTON2, RANDOLPH1) was born 1853 in Tenn., and died 1917 in Wake County, N.C.. She married JOHN CALVIN FERRELL, son of ELI FERRELL and SUSAN MOORE.