Thomas Underwood and Mary Ramey Enoch Underwood and Nancy Underwood (cousins, Enoch was the son of Thomas and Mary) William Ramey Underwood and Martha Langston Malissa E. Underwood and William Allen Bryan William Harley Bryan and Nancy Virginia Harrison Emmert Oral Bryan and Ruby Priscilla Cox This line is a Dumplin Valley, Tennessee line. Dumplin Valley is about half in Sevier County and about half in Jefferson County. I can trace quite a few of my lines through Dumplin Valley, often for five or six generations. For example, Peter Bryan moved to Dumplin Valley in 1790 and Thomas Underwood moved to Dumplin Valley shortly thereafter. I live in Knoxville, about 20 miles west of Dumplin Valley. The Rameys appear not to be a typical Dumplin Valley line in this regard. It's not a common surname at all in Sevier County or Jefferson County. Mary Ramey appears to have married Thomas Underwood in North Carolina and moved to Tennessee with him, but the rest of her Ramey family appears to have moved elsewhere. She herself died 23 May 1835 in Jefferson County. Actually, Thomas Underwood and Mary Ramey may instead have been married in Virginia. I have m. 3 Mar 1791 in Surry County, North Carlina or Washington County, Virginia. But Washington County, Virginia is just north of the Tennessee state line, and is on the typical migration path from North Carolina to East Tennessee. I have several cases in my data base where a marriage may have been in North Carolina or may have been in Washington County, Virginia (can't tell for sure), but where the couple ended up living in East Tennessee.) David McCampbell wrote of Burl Underwood's book THE UNDERWOODS FROM ROARING GAP (NC) TO DUMPLIN VALLEY (TN) AND ONWARD. Much of my Underwood information came from Burl Underwood's book. David McCampbell also wrote of Ahaz Bryan who married Margaret Callahan. Margaret Callahan was the daughter of Samuel Callahan and Milly Underwood. Milly Underwood was the daughter of Thomas Underwood and Mary Ramey. But Ahaz Bryan was the brother of my ggg grandfather Peter H. Bryan and the son of my gggg grandfather Thomas C. Bryan, Sr. Thomas was the son of Peter Bryan who founded the Bryan family in East Tennessee. Ancestors of Mary Ramey are William Remy (and Eleanor Clack or McCarty) of Daniel Remy (and Dorcus Brickey) of William Remy Sr. (and Catherine Asbury) of Jacob (Jacques) Remy (and Mary) of Piere Ramey (and unknown). The ancestor information has been taken from RAMEY-L and not researched by me in any way. Jerry Bryan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Yes, I even contacted a gent who was researching a Didier from our area and he told me it wasn't the same gent as his and he couldn't help me.. most of the French areas were in French at that time, need to go back and try again. It has been several years and a lot happens in cyberspace in a couple of years... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Laura Miller [mailto:slssmiller@netzero.net] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 7:09 AM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] Research in France Hi listers! I was wondering if anyone has done any communicating with places in France that can be contacted regarding genealogy questions. Laura __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.
Hi listers! I was wondering if anyone has done any communicating with places in France that can be contacted regarding genealogy questions. Laura __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
James: I, too, am researching this Moses. If you find who his parents were, or what Tabitha's last name was, would you please share with the list? Thanks ever so much Glenna ----- Original Message ----- From: "James D. Miller" <jdm1968@pionet.net> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 1:45 AM Subject: [RAMEY-L] The Other Moses Ramey : I'm still searching for THIS Moses Ramey. Can any one help? : : Jim Miller : : ******************** : : 1. MOSES1 RAMEY1 was born Abt. 17961, and died 1846 in Pike Co., KY1. He : married TABITHA (--?--)1 Abt. 18191. She was born Abt. 1800 in VA1, and died : Aft. 18501. : : Children of MOSES RAMEY and TABITHA (--?--) are: : : i. SARAH2 RAMEY, m. JAMES CASTLE, 22 Mar 1841, Pike Co., KY. : : ii. ARMINDA RAMEY, b. Abt. 1820, KY; d. 01 Feb 1876, Buchanan Co., VA; m. : ANDREW OWENS, 16 Mar 1837, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1817, KY; d. 17 Apr 1887, : Dickenson Co., VA. : : iii. MATTHEW RAMEY, b. Abt. 1822, KY; d. Aft. 1890; m. CHARITY BENTLEY, 27 : Aug 1840, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1819. : : iv. CHRISTINA RAMEY1, b. 09 Nov 1823, Floyd Co., KY1; d. Apr 1872, Island : Creek, Pike Co., KY1; m. WILLIAM H. "BILLY" SWORD1, 25 Mar 1841, Pike Co., : KY1; b. 26 Oct 1819, Floyd Co., KY1; d. 21 Jun 1902, Pikeville, Pike Co., : KY1. : : v. PRICEY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1826, KY; d. 28 Apr 1859, Buchanan Co., VA; m. : JAMES OWENS, 27 Mar 1842, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1820; d. 25 Jan 1878. : : vi. MARINDA RAMEY, b. Abt. 1827, KY; d. Abt. 1897, KY; m. (1) DANIEL : BENTLEY, 25 Jul 1843, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1823, KY; d. Abt. 1862, KY; m. : (2) WILLIAM QUILLEN, 10 Oct 1865, Letcher Co., KY; b. 1825. : : vii. MARY POLLY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1830, KY; m. WILLIAM COOK, 12 Jul 1846, Pike : Co., KY. : : viii. ELIZABETH RAMEY, b. Abt. 1831, KY; m. JOHN POTTER, 16 Jul 1846, Pike : Co., KY; b. Abt. 1825, KY; d. 1885. : : ix. FRANCES RAMEY, b. Abt. 1832, KY; m. GEORGE W. BELCHER, 19 Nov 1847, Pike : Co., KY; b. Abt. 1825. : : x. ANNY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1834, KY; d. Bef. 1866; m. WILLIAM OWENS, 12 Jan : 1850, Letcher Co., KY; b. Abt. 1831, VA. Notes for ANNY RAMEY: pos. married : on 24 JAN 1850, Letcher Co., KY : : : ------------------ Visit My Home Page ------------------------- : http://www.homestead.com/jdm1968/index.html : : ----------Visit the Drama Workshop web page------------ : http://CHdramaworkshop.homestead.com/Home.html : : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. : :
I am new to the list, and hoping that someone may be able to help me with the following Ramey's. Unfortunately this is all the information that I have. ..1. Daniel Ramey b. abt. 1778 Frederick Co., VA + Margaret Patton b. abt. 1780 ......2. Henry Ramey b. 1815 VA. (possibly Scott Co) + Prudence Robinett/e b. bet. 1816-1818 m. 1838 ..........3. Emily Ramey b. 1846 VA Thanks Katie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I'm still searching for THIS Moses Ramey. Can any one help? Jim Miller ******************** 1. MOSES1 RAMEY1 was born Abt. 17961, and died 1846 in Pike Co., KY1. He married TABITHA (--?--)1 Abt. 18191. She was born Abt. 1800 in VA1, and died Aft. 18501. Children of MOSES RAMEY and TABITHA (--?--) are: i. SARAH2 RAMEY, m. JAMES CASTLE, 22 Mar 1841, Pike Co., KY. ii. ARMINDA RAMEY, b. Abt. 1820, KY; d. 01 Feb 1876, Buchanan Co., VA; m. ANDREW OWENS, 16 Mar 1837, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1817, KY; d. 17 Apr 1887, Dickenson Co., VA. iii. MATTHEW RAMEY, b. Abt. 1822, KY; d. Aft. 1890; m. CHARITY BENTLEY, 27 Aug 1840, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1819. iv. CHRISTINA RAMEY1, b. 09 Nov 1823, Floyd Co., KY1; d. Apr 1872, Island Creek, Pike Co., KY1; m. WILLIAM H. "BILLY" SWORD1, 25 Mar 1841, Pike Co., KY1; b. 26 Oct 1819, Floyd Co., KY1; d. 21 Jun 1902, Pikeville, Pike Co., KY1. v. PRICEY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1826, KY; d. 28 Apr 1859, Buchanan Co., VA; m. JAMES OWENS, 27 Mar 1842, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1820; d. 25 Jan 1878. vi. MARINDA RAMEY, b. Abt. 1827, KY; d. Abt. 1897, KY; m. (1) DANIEL BENTLEY, 25 Jul 1843, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1823, KY; d. Abt. 1862, KY; m. (2) WILLIAM QUILLEN, 10 Oct 1865, Letcher Co., KY; b. 1825. vii. MARY POLLY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1830, KY; m. WILLIAM COOK, 12 Jul 1846, Pike Co., KY. viii. ELIZABETH RAMEY, b. Abt. 1831, KY; m. JOHN POTTER, 16 Jul 1846, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1825, KY; d. 1885. ix. FRANCES RAMEY, b. Abt. 1832, KY; m. GEORGE W. BELCHER, 19 Nov 1847, Pike Co., KY; b. Abt. 1825. x. ANNY RAMEY, b. Abt. 1834, KY; d. Bef. 1866; m. WILLIAM OWENS, 12 Jan 1850, Letcher Co., KY; b. Abt. 1831, VA. Notes for ANNY RAMEY: pos. married on 24 JAN 1850, Letcher Co., KY ------------------ Visit My Home Page ------------------------- http://www.homestead.com/jdm1968/index.html ----------Visit the Drama Workshop web page------------ http://CHdramaworkshop.homestead.com/Home.html
My Ramey line: James Smith Ramey m. Pricey Bentley Albert Jackson Ramey m. Susannah Siphers Barbara Ramey m. Thomas Pierce Willard Pierce m. Ruth Browning Robert Pierce m. Rosemary Tafolla (me) I received some information from Rick Ramey several years ago, indicating that James Smith Ramey, of Pike County, KY was a son of a Daniel Ramey. I have been unable to verify this, or which Daniel he is. Any help appreciated. Rosemary Pierce
My line is: Jacob Remy m. Mary ??? William Remy m. Catherine Asbury James Ramey (1715-1760) m. Elizabeth Daniel Ramey (1743-1806) m. Rachel Johnston William Ramey (1782-1864) m. Anna Samlin William Ramey (1828, Pike Co., KY. - 1875-9) m. 1859, Pike Co., KY #2 Polly Henson (1839- 1911, Greenup Co., KY.) Melvin Ramey (1867, Pike Co. KY - 1949, Kanawha Co. WV.) m. 1893 Boyd Co., Ky., Lucinda Jean Collins(1874-1957) Mary Frances Ramey (1895, Boyd Co., KY.- 1982 FL.) m. 1919 WV., William Homer Webb William H. Webb, Jr. Mike Webb (me)
Hi Laura- Asbury stuff: +---------------------------------- Modify ---------------------------------- ¦ Name: Francis Asbury #7978 Sex: M ¦ Born: in ¦ in ¦ Died: in ¦ Buried: in ¦ in ¦ Ref: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ¦ Father: not entered _____________ ¦ Mother: not entered ¦ Spouse: Mary #7979 ¦ Married: in ¦ in ¦Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: End Year: +---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ¦ Child 1: Henry Asbury #2768 abt. 1620 ________________________________________________________________ -M-------------------------------- Modify ------------------------------------+ Name: Henry Asbury #2768 Sex: M ¦ Born: abt. 1620 in ¦ Sr. in ¦ Died: 1707 in Westmorelad Co Va. ¦ Buried: in ¦ in ¦ Ref: Will Will BK 4, pg. 13 ¦ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------¦ Father: Francis Asbury #7978 ¦ Mother: Mary #7979 ¦ Spouse: Mary Durant #2769 ¦ Married: in ¦ in ¦ Marr. Ceremony? Y/N: Y Divorced/Annulled/Separated: End Year: ¦ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------¦ Child 1: Catherine Asbury #2767 ¦ Child 2: Thomas Asbury #7975 1685 ¦ Child 3: Henry Asbury #7976 ¦ Child 4: Benjamin Asbury #7977 ¦ Henry involved in murder of Wm. Clarke but died bef the matter could be resolved. Gov's council dismissed case against Abraham Taylor, the other suspect for lack of evidence. __________________________________________________________________ Info on Mary Durant -M-------------------------------- Modify ------------------------------------+ Name: Mary Durant #2769 Sex: F ¦ Born: in ¦ in ¦ Died: 1709 in Westmoreland Co Va ¦ Buried: in ¦ in ¦ Ref: Will Will Bk 4 pg 249 ¦ - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------¦ Father: Henry Durant #7980 ¦ Mother: Sarah #7981 ¦ Spouse: Henry Asbury #2768 ¦ ¦Known to be a Durant by Deed 1697 from John Foxall, Jr. Earlier records ¦ ¦show that Sarah Durrant never relinquished her dower & 1/3 of the land in ques¦ ¦tion passed to her daugher. Henry could only have claim to the land thru ¦ ¦Mary. ¦ ____________________________________________________________________ Did you know there were Asbury's in Wolfe Co Ky also? Marsil in the land of UFO's, Aliens and weather balloons. Roswell, NM
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Jerry, thanks for the reply. Our Underwood line from Thomas down is a daughter-out with Thomas daughter, Milly, who married Samuel CALAHAN. (We have dead-ended on the Calahans, also.) I find Enoch, Nancy, John, __ KIRBY, William Ramey, and Martha LANGSTON noted in our records (From THE UNDERWOODS FROM ROARING GAP . . . By Burl UNDERWOOD). >From Milly down we have : Milly-Samuel CALAHAN, Margaret CALAHAN Ahaz W. BRYAN, Sarah BRYAN-David Parmely McCAMPBELL (my husbands grandparents). Back to Ramey: According to THE UNDERWOODS.... above, (1986 edition) Mary (b. 13 May 1772) is the daughter of William RAMEY and Catherine OSTEEN. According to Burl Underwoods 1st edition, 1975, she could also be the daughter of Joseph RAMEY and Matilda __., but I believe he did not say that in the 1986 edition. William REMY (m. __ Clack or McCarty) would be the right age to be Marys father, but I believe she is not mentioned in THE REMY FAMILY IN AMERICA - that book mentions a son Joseph. I will have to look at the book again. Burl UNDERWOOD is the only source I have that mentions Mary. If anyone knows of any other source, I would appreciate knowing about it. Thanks - Molly
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Yeah... I would love to know where all the information came from in "The Book" if these people didn't live then some one had a very good imagination indeed.... Have you tried Google... think I will tonight.... I just started to use that search engine and really like it better then any other I have tried..... Till the marrow... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 7:20 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Charlomagne Jeannie, I agree. There are about 600 years between Desiderius and Didlier. There is no way of knowing if there is a line of descent from one to the other. I have typed "Marchioness of Rosieres" into different search engines and came up with other Marchionesses (the same as Duchess) except for one time. I found a flower shop advertising a rose called Marchioness of Rosieres. That indicatres to me that there is some memory of this Marchioness. If only we could find more information. The name "de Busancy" seems to be unknown. Just our luck..............royal ancestors and no one has heard of them. Not even a crown to wear. (hint, Marcil). Lois ------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : Thanks Lois... but boy is there ever a LOT of generations in there from : Desiderius and Didier.. I had found this information too, hopeing to bring : it on down but no luck..... I am more interested actually in Beatrice.. : she fascinates me..... : : Jeannie ><> : : -----Original Message----- : From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] : Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:50 PM : To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Charlomagne : : After Liutprand's death, King of the Lombards, war between the different : cities of Lombard began again. The Pope began to be alarmed because the : wars were so close to his own lands. He asked the Frankish king : DESIDERIUS, to help him. The Lombards were compelled to give to the church : some of the cities they had conquered. Peace was preserved until 774 when : Charlemagne sent back his wife, the daughter of Desiderius. In the war : that followed this insult, the Lombards were again defeated and in 803 : Charlemagne crowned himself King of Lombardy. ............Source WORLD BOOK : ENCYCLOPEDIA. : : Elizabeth was right. Desiderius was the Lombard king whose daughter, : Desiderata, married Charlemagne. He sent her back after a while and war : began again. Desiderius spent the rest of his life in exile. He died in : 774. His wife was Ahsa. Children: : *Adalchis 759-774 who married a sister of Charlemagne : *Desiderata, died 814, married Charlemagne : *Liuberga, Duke of Bavaria, died around 794 : *Theodo, Duke of Bavaria (joint ruler with brother Liuberga) : *Theotbert, a monk : *a daughter, a nun in Chelles : *a daughter, a nun in Laon : *Adalberga, Duke of Benevent, died in 778 : *Grimoald III, died 807, Duke of Benevent : : Source..................Stefan Hoellriegl, a Royal Genealogy Researcher : : Didlier is believed to be a descended of King Desiderius. : : Lois : : -------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : : Well, THE BOOK says.... :) :) and according to the ones "in the : know" : : on royal lists there never was a king by that name.... And if there was : he : : sure didn't sire a descendant by the name of Didier... I ask.... And : that : : was the wrong question to ask "the ones in the KNOW" everything royal or : : titled category..... won't make that mistake again ..... : : : : Jeannie <>< : : else. : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to : RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body : type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. : : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.
Jeannie, I agree. There are about 600 years between Desiderius and Didlier. There is no way of knowing if there is a line of descent from one to the other. I have typed "Marchioness of Rosieres" into different search engines and came up with other Marchionesses (the same as Duchess) except for one time. I found a flower shop advertising a rose called Marchioness of Rosieres. That indicatres to me that there is some memory of this Marchioness. If only we could find more information. The name "de Busancy" seems to be unknown. Just our luck..............royal ancestors and no one has heard of them. Not even a crown to wear. (hint, Marcil). Lois ------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : Thanks Lois... but boy is there ever a LOT of generations in there from : Desiderius and Didier.. I had found this information too, hopeing to bring : it on down but no luck..... I am more interested actually in Beatrice.. : she fascinates me..... : : Jeannie ><> : : -----Original Message----- : From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] : Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:50 PM : To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com : Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Charlomagne : : After Liutprand's death, King of the Lombards, war between the different : cities of Lombard began again. The Pope began to be alarmed because the : wars were so close to his own lands. He asked the Frankish king : DESIDERIUS, to help him. The Lombards were compelled to give to the church : some of the cities they had conquered. Peace was preserved until 774 when : Charlemagne sent back his wife, the daughter of Desiderius. In the war : that followed this insult, the Lombards were again defeated and in 803 : Charlemagne crowned himself King of Lombardy. ............Source WORLD BOOK : ENCYCLOPEDIA. : : Elizabeth was right. Desiderius was the Lombard king whose daughter, : Desiderata, married Charlemagne. He sent her back after a while and war : began again. Desiderius spent the rest of his life in exile. He died in : 774. His wife was Ahsa. Children: : *Adalchis 759-774 who married a sister of Charlemagne : *Desiderata, died 814, married Charlemagne : *Liuberga, Duke of Bavaria, died around 794 : *Theodo, Duke of Bavaria (joint ruler with brother Liuberga) : *Theotbert, a monk : *a daughter, a nun in Chelles : *a daughter, a nun in Laon : *Adalberga, Duke of Benevent, died in 778 : *Grimoald III, died 807, Duke of Benevent : : Source..................Stefan Hoellriegl, a Royal Genealogy Researcher : : Didlier is believed to be a descended of King Desiderius. : : Lois : : -------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : : Well, THE BOOK says.... :) :) and according to the ones "in the : know" : : on royal lists there never was a king by that name.... And if there was : he : : sure didn't sire a descendant by the name of Didier... I ask.... And : that : : was the wrong question to ask "the ones in the KNOW" everything royal or : : titled category..... won't make that mistake again ..... : : : : Jeannie <>< : : else. : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to : RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body : type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. : : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.
Hi Ramey listers, Please see if you can help this gentleman. Thanks Kelly Remy ----Original Message Follows---- From: "EVELYN MIHAL" <gemihal@email.msn.com> To: <Kelly_rrr@hotmail.com> Subject: REMY NAMES Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:42:58 -0800 SIR: MY NAME IS GEORGE MIHAL. I AM RESEARCHING THE REMY FAMILY. I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE A WILLIAM JOSEPH REMY ON YOUR WEB PAGE. DO YOU KNOW IF HE MAY HAVE HAD A BROTHER NAMED JOHN REMY BORN OCT. 10 1806 DIED ? MARRIED TO RACHEL BLACK, KENTUCKY 1929. I AM ALSO LOOKING FOR ANY INFORMATION ON THE REMY FAMILY THAT MY HAVE COME DOWN FROM CANADA IN THE EARLY 1800S. MORE SPECIFICALLY ONE "JACQUES LA RAMIE". THIS GENTLEMAN IS THE NAME SAKE FOR LARAMIE WYOMING. HE WAS A FUR TRADER. I AM TOLD THAT HE IS ONE OF OUR REMY ANCESTORS. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME GEORGE MIHAL ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Thanks Lois... but boy is there ever a LOT of generations in there from Desiderius and Didier.. I had found this information too, hopeing to bring it on down but no luck..... I am more interested actually in Beatrice.. she fascinates me..... Jeannie ><> -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 12:50 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Charlomagne After Liutprand's death, King of the Lombards, war between the different cities of Lombard began again. The Pope began to be alarmed because the wars were so close to his own lands. He asked the Frankish king DESIDERIUS, to help him. The Lombards were compelled to give to the church some of the cities they had conquered. Peace was preserved until 774 when Charlemagne sent back his wife, the daughter of Desiderius. In the war that followed this insult, the Lombards were again defeated and in 803 Charlemagne crowned himself King of Lombardy. ............Source WORLD BOOK ENCYCLOPEDIA. Elizabeth was right. Desiderius was the Lombard king whose daughter, Desiderata, married Charlemagne. He sent her back after a while and war began again. Desiderius spent the rest of his life in exile. He died in 774. His wife was Ahsa. Children: *Adalchis 759-774 who married a sister of Charlemagne *Desiderata, died 814, married Charlemagne *Liuberga, Duke of Bavaria, died around 794 *Theodo, Duke of Bavaria (joint ruler with brother Liuberga) *Theotbert, a monk *a daughter, a nun in Chelles *a daughter, a nun in Laon *Adalberga, Duke of Benevent, died in 778 *Grimoald III, died 807, Duke of Benevent Source..................Stefan Hoellriegl, a Royal Genealogy Researcher Didlier is believed to be a descended of King Desiderius. Lois -------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : Well, THE BOOK says.... :) :) and according to the ones "in the know" : on royal lists there never was a king by that name.... And if there was he : sure didn't sire a descendant by the name of Didier... I ask.... And that : was the wrong question to ask "the ones in the KNOW" everything royal or : titled category..... won't make that mistake again ..... : : Jeannie <>< : else. ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.
After Liutprand's death, King of the Lombards, war between the different cities of Lombard began again. The Pope began to be alarmed because the wars were so close to his own lands. He asked the Frankish king DESIDERIUS, to help him. The Lombards were compelled to give to the church some of the cities they had conquered. Peace was preserved until 774 when Charlemagne sent back his wife, the daughter of Desiderius. In the war that followed this insult, the Lombards were again defeated and in 803 Charlemagne crowned himself King of Lombardy. ............Source WORLD BOOK ENCYCLOPEDIA. Elizabeth was right. Desiderius was the Lombard king whose daughter, Desiderata, married Charlemagne. He sent her back after a while and war began again. Desiderius spent the rest of his life in exile. He died in 774. His wife was Ahsa. Children: *Adalchis 759-774 who married a sister of Charlemagne *Desiderata, died 814, married Charlemagne *Liuberga, Duke of Bavaria, died around 794 *Theodo, Duke of Bavaria (joint ruler with brother Liuberga) *Theotbert, a monk *a daughter, a nun in Chelles *a daughter, a nun in Laon *Adalberga, Duke of Benevent, died in 778 *Grimoald III, died 807, Duke of Benevent Source..................Stefan Hoellriegl, a Royal Genealogy Researcher Didlier is believed to be a descended of King Desiderius. Lois -------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE-----------: : Well, THE BOOK says.... :) :) and according to the ones "in the know" : on royal lists there never was a king by that name.... And if there was he : sure didn't sire a descendant by the name of Didier... I ask.... And that : was the wrong question to ask "the ones in the KNOW" everything royal or : titled category..... won't make that mistake again ..... : : Jeannie <>< : else.
Well, THE BOOK says.... :) :) and according to the ones "in the know" on royal lists there never was a king by that name.... And if there was he sure didn't sire a descendant by the name of Didier... I ask.... And that was the wrong question to ask "the ones in the KNOW" everything royal or titled category..... won't make that mistake again ..... Jeannie <>< -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 7:36 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RAMEY-L] Charlomagne Elizabeth, I don't think that Didlier was King Desiderius, who was King of the Franks. Didlier lived in the 15th Century. Desiderius lived in the 9th century. Some Ramey researchers do believe that Didlier was a descendent of Desiderius. It sure would interesting to know for sure. Lois -----------------ORIGINAL MESSAGE: : I may as well put my names in as well. : I have found that Deider is really Desiderius. He had two daughters and a son : Pierre, who we come from. One daughter Desiderata, married Charles : Charlemagne, he tired of her and sent her home. No children from this union. : the other daughter was Gerberga, she married Charloman, brother to : Charlemagne. Charloman was killed in battle and left her with 2 children. She : returned to Father also. From there we all know the line. : Unfortunately my line cannot be connected beyond my GG grandmother, who was : : Elizabeth Ramey b. 1811 in Ky. : m. William Kelly : they lived in NW ark. and during the war they were forced to move to MO. : Elizabeths known brothers were : James : thomas : William : John- this is belived to be John that married Margaret Hitchcock. : Sisters names uknown. : I have eliminated all the parents that I even suspect as her parents. : Thanks, Lisa : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.
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Hi, Cousins by whatever degree....or at least the majority of you!!!!� I'm still a-lookin' for information on my missing ancestor lines (aren't we all??).� The ONLY data I have thus far: David Ramey:� 10 May 1854 - 02 May 1920 Born:� Long Creek/Mountain Rest area of Oconee County, South Carolina (just over the border from Clayton, Georgia) Buried:� Beaverdam Church Cemetery, Fair Play, Oconee County, South Carolina Grampa Dave married SARAH EMMALINE THRIFT.� He had a brother, Thomas Ramey, who married Gramma Sarah's sister, Liza (or possibly Eliza). Known offspring of Dave and Sarah: William Logan Ramey - married Estelle Beatrice Newell Thomas Ramey - married Florence Barker Dena Ramey - married Elias W. Woodall Rachel Ramey - married Styles D. Cobb Lena Ramey - married (unknown) Collins Any help rounding up information on these mavericks would be greatly appreciated.� I've hit a steel-reinforced brick wall. Joanie (Harbin) � Jean Dalrymple wrote: > Boy it is nice to see so much going on on this list... > > Think that it is time for a roll call...� what say all...� starting NOW... > > BTW....� I called a roll call for one of my sur name lists (Populaion 96) > and only 7 DIDN'T respond......�� but will probably do good to get 7 out of > this list of 150+ > > Wonder where Mr Wright is, at least he had every one chit chatting.... > > Jeannie� <><��� List Mom > > -----Original Message----- > From:�� Marsil Creech [mailto:MARCREECH@prodigy.net] > Sent:�� Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:46 AM > To:���� RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject:������� Re: [RAMEY-L] FW: subscribe > > Yes, I definitely would-along with sipping Remy Brandy and recharging my > batters with Remy batteries. > Cleo, Queen of De Nial > > ----- Original Message ----- > From:�� Lois Arthur <parish@smithville.net> > To:���� <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent:�� Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:04 AM > Subject:������� Re: [RAMEY-L] FW: subscribe > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.