Hi, I see your Stephen Ramey was originally from Scott Co VA. I am also trying to find a Clayton Ramey born sometime in the early 1800's believe in Scott county. I can't seem to find a trace of him. He is believed to be the father of my great grandfather John Ramey who was born 1842. Mother of John was Kate Gibson born 1822. John went by the name Gibson till he was a teenager. John was illegitimate. If you know anything about Clayton Ramey or Kate Gibson please contact me. Wilma Wireman wjw6@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <VEVEALEY@aol.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 12:15 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Stephen and Levi RAMEY > Hello > I am looking for the Ramey's From Wayne Co. W.Va. originally form > Scott Co. Virginia. > Some of the Family came to Wayne in 1850. > Looking for Stephen Ramey born about 1831 in Scott co. Va. > Married Susan ?? > Looking for their Children Especially Levi Ramey born 1866 he was > shot and killed in Wayne in 1899. > Hope someone out there can help > Thanks > > Emma Vealey vevealey@aol.com > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > >

Hey... with this family ANYthing is possible.... -----Original Message----- From: Lois Arthur [mailto:parish@smithville.net] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 7:25 AM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] the longest pregnancy in our family history invertrol fertilization? -----------ORIGINALN MESSAGE--------------: : Hi all! I was backtracking in THE BOOK, when I noticed a discrepancy : in dates... : : (Page 16)... "3724* JACQUES, born in Ivoy, Dept. of Ardennes... died : or was killed in Ivoy in 1586. children... : : ...37242 PIERRE, born about 1600... children... : : ... *(272421) JACQUES (Jacob), born about 1630... had to flee from the : Huguenot persecution..." (this is our Jacob). : : OK, how can Pierre be the son of (3724) Jacques if Jacques was dead 14 : years prior to Pierre's birth? Has this been resolved? : : Laura : : : __________________________________________ : NetZero - Defenders of the Free World : Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at : http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

invertrol fertilization? -----------ORIGINALN MESSAGE--------------: : Hi all! I was backtracking in THE BOOK, when I noticed a discrepancy : in dates... : : (Page 16)... "3724* JACQUES, born in Ivoy, Dept. of Ardennes... died : or was killed in Ivoy in 1586. children... : : ...37242 PIERRE, born about 1600... children... : : ... *(272421) JACQUES (Jacob), born about 1630... had to flee from the : Huguenot persecution..." (this is our Jacob). : : OK, how can Pierre be the son of (3724) Jacques if Jacques was dead 14 : years prior to Pierre's birth? Has this been resolved? : : Laura : : : __________________________________________ : NetZero - Defenders of the Free World : Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at : http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html : : : ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== : To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

Hello I am looking for the Ramey's From Wayne Co. W.Va. originally form Scott Co. Virginia. Some of the Family came to Wayne in 1850. Looking for Stephen Ramey born about 1831 in Scott co. Va. Married Susan ?? Looking for their Children Especially Levi Ramey born 1866 he was shot and killed in Wayne in 1899. Hope someone out there can help Thanks Emma Vealey vevealey@aol.com

Hi all! I was backtracking in THE BOOK, when I noticed a discrepancy in dates... (Page 16)... "3724* JACQUES, born in Ivoy, Dept. of Ardennes... died or was killed in Ivoy in 1586. children... ...37242 PIERRE, born about 1600... children... ... *(272421) JACQUES (Jacob), born about 1630... had to flee from the Huguenot persecution..." (this is our Jacob). OK, how can Pierre be the son of (3724) Jacques if Jacques was dead 14 years prior to Pierre's birth? Has this been resolved? Laura __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Do not respond thanks.. Jeannie <><

Jean...........Thanks for posting this abbreviations list.........very helpful, I have wondered what some of abbrev's meant. Dorothy in CA

http://www.topozone.com/find.asp this is a map site for locating that out of the way place that just is not on the local atlas... it also gives the elevation.

This is TRUE........ you may go to the head of the class -----Original Message----- From: Marsil Creech [mailto:MARCREECH@prodigy.net] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:02 PM To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Phunnie Okay Ste. Mom, You forgot that dust makes great insulation. That the green stuff growing in the frig is penicillen-saving on medical bills. That gonk in the oven makes absolutely great seasoning. To summarize-a clean house is a sign of a misspent life. Cleo ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Phunnie > 1. I'm not aging, I just need re-potting. > 2. I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully. > 3. Lord, if I can't be skinny, let all my friends be fat. > 4. My idea of cleaning the house is sweeping the floor with a glance. > 5. I cleaned my house yesterday. Sure wish you could have seen it. > 6. This isn't clutter; these are my antiques! > 7. Discover wildlife! Have kids! > 8. Our policy is to always blame the computer. > 9. Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends. > 10. Take my advice. I'm not using it! > 11. Mom, I'll always love you, but I'll never forgive you for cleaning my > face with spit on a hanky. > 12. I love to give homemade gifts... umm, which one of the kids would you > like? > 13. By the time you find greener pastures, you can't climb the fence! > 14. This house is protected by killer dust bunnies. > 15. Every time I get the urge to exercise, I lie down till the feeling > passes. > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else.

> CONFUSING DEFINITIONS in history: > Mistress - Not necessarily a married woman. A term of respect for any > married woman. > Gentleman - Might be used to describe a retired man of wealth or education. > Housekeeper - Once meant property owner and could be used for male or > female. > Domestic - Once meant a housewife and not necessarily a servant. > Inmate - As used in the Pennsylvania Archives, refers to a man living in the > home of another person - not necessarily a person in an institution. It may > also mean someone who did not own the real estate on which he resided. > Freeman - As used in Pennsylvania Archives, meant a young man not yet > married. > Alias - Usually meant illegitimacy. The surname of the father and mother > were jointed. It did not have a criminal meaning. > Senior or Junior - These terms did not necessarily refer to father and son. > If two men in the same town had the same name, the older was "Senior" and > the younger "Junior" even if they weren't related. In earlier times, a > Father might have done the same in naming his sons. > Niece - This could refer to any female relative but usually a granddaughter. > Nephew - This could refer to an illegitimate son but usually a grandson. > Cousin - A cousin might be a nephew or uncle. > Brother - This term could refer to an adopted brother but could also mean an > in-law or lodge or Church brother. > Domestic - A wife could be called a domestic because she was "at home". > Crazy - Usually meant a person who was ill or in generally poor health, not > necessarily mentally ill. > >

> ABBREVIATIONS: > 1C - first cousin (2c, second cousin, etc.) > 1R - once removed (2r, twice removed, etc.) > ACW - American Civil War > AFRA - American Family Records Association > AGLL- American Genealogical Lending Library > AGRA - Association of Genealogists and Record Agents (Professional) > APG - Association of Professional Genealogists, headquartered in Salt Lake > City, Utah. > ASCII - American Standard Code for Information Interchange - type of file on > a computer that is usually readable / writeable by most word processors > AIS - Accelerated Indexing System > b - born > bap or bapt - baptized > BBS - Bulletin Board System Phone dial up connection for PC's. > BK - Brother's Keeper, a genealogy program > BMD - Births, Marriages and Deaths > BMP - Bit Mapped Picture - file format of a computer disk file > Bp - Bishop > bur - buried > C18 - Eighteenth century (etc.) > ca - circa, about, (as in ca. 1840.) > CANINDEX - Index of emigrants from British Isles to Canada and Newfoundland > CC - County Court (USA) > CD - Compact Disk - An optical disk used with some PC's to store lots of > data. > CFI - Computer File Index (precursor of IGI) > chr - Christened. > CW - Civil War > d - died. > DAR - Daughters of the American Revolution > DC - District Court > DOCS - Documents / Documentations > div - divorced. > d.s.p. - died without issue (from Latin: decessit sine prole) > FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions > FFV - First Families of Virginia > FGRA - Family Group Record Archives > FGS - ancestral charts or "Family Group Sheets" > FHC - Family History Center (LDS satellite centers) > FHL - Family History Library (LDS main library in Utah) > FHLC - Family History Library Catalog > FOIA - Freedom of Information Act > FTM - Family Tree Maker, a genealogy program from Banner Blue Software > FTP - File Transfer Protocol (networking, technical) > GEDCOM - GEnealogical Data COMmunications > GIF - A format to hold images on a computer disk file > GIM - Genealogical Information Manager > GOONS - Guild Of One Name Studies > IGI - International Genealogical Index > IOOF - Independent Order of Odd Fellows > ISO - In Search Of > LDS - Latter Day Saints (Mormons) > LOCIS - Library of Congress Information System > NARA - National Archives and Records Administration > NATF - National Archives Trust Fund > NEHGS - New England Historical Genealogy Society > NGC - National Genealogical Conference > NGS - National Geographical Society > PAF - Personal Ancestry File, genealogy program of the Mormon Church (LDS) > ROOTS-L - a mailing list of subscribers who are interested in genealogy > RW - Revolutionary War > SAR - Sons of the American Revolution > SASE - Self Addressed, Stamped Envelope > SOUNDEX - A method of translating a name to a one letter code followed by > three numerical digits. The aim of the translation is to render all names > which sound alike (or sufficiently similar) to the same code. > TMS - Tiny Tafels Software genealogy program also Tafel Matching System > WW1 - World War One > WW2 - World War Two ----------------------

Thanks to Spiritgrny This is the Rail road retirement page. http://www.rrb.gov/index.html

Okay Ste. Mom, You forgot that dust makes great insulation. That the green stuff growing in the frig is penicillen-saving on medical bills. That gonk in the oven makes absolutely great seasoning. To summarize-a clean house is a sign of a misspent life. Cleo ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Dalrymple <motherd@theriver.com> To: <RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 3:19 PM Subject: [RAMEY-L] Phunnie > 1. I'm not aging, I just need re-potting. > 2. I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully. > 3. Lord, if I can't be skinny, let all my friends be fat. > 4. My idea of cleaning the house is sweeping the floor with a glance. > 5. I cleaned my house yesterday. Sure wish you could have seen it. > 6. This isn't clutter; these are my antiques! > 7. Discover wildlife! Have kids! > 8. Our policy is to always blame the computer. > 9. Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends. > 10. Take my advice. I'm not using it! > 11. Mom, I'll always love you, but I'll never forgive you for cleaning my > face with spit on a hanky. > 12. I love to give homemade gifts... umm, which one of the kids would you > like? > 13. By the time you find greener pastures, you can't climb the fence! > 14. This house is protected by killer dust bunnies. > 15. Every time I get the urge to exercise, I lie down till the feeling > passes. > > > > > ==== RAMEY Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE to this list send a new e-mail to RAMEY-L-request@rootsweb.com or Ramey-D-request@rootsweb.com and in the body type UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else. >

1. I'm not aging, I just need re-potting. 2. I don't repeat gossip, so listen carefully. 3. Lord, if I can't be skinny, let all my friends be fat. 4. My idea of cleaning the house is sweeping the floor with a glance. 5. I cleaned my house yesterday. Sure wish you could have seen it. 6. This isn't clutter; these are my antiques! 7. Discover wildlife! Have kids! 8. Our policy is to always blame the computer. 9. Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends. 10. Take my advice. I'm not using it! 11. Mom, I'll always love you, but I'll never forgive you for cleaning my face with spit on a hanky. 12. I love to give homemade gifts... umm, which one of the kids would you like? 13. By the time you find greener pastures, you can't climb the fence! 14. This house is protected by killer dust bunnies. 15. Every time I get the urge to exercise, I lie down till the feeling passes.

Jerry, I apologize for taking us off topic. Back to RAMEYs now!!! Molly

From: David & Molly McCampbell <maccam@swbell.net> To: RAMEY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RAMEY-L] Rollcall Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 06:43:39 -0600 >Jerry, I was interested in your discussion of Mary RAMEY's (m. > Thomas >UNDERWOOD) descendants. Re the BRYANs: Ahaz' and Peter H's father, > we >did not know Thomas's middle inital was C.! Thomas's father was > Peter, >as you stated, and we go on back from Peter to Thomas BRYAN, > Cornelius >O'BRYAN and Brian O'BRIAN. Does this agree with your records? >Also, we have Margaret Calahan as the daughter of Samuel, but have > been >unable to find Samuel's parents. The descendants of Ahaz W. Bryan are Rameys, as are the descendants of Thomas Underwood. But I still worry that I am getting a little off topic here. I apologize to Ramey researchers in advance if I am too far off topic. The short answer to your question is, yes, your data agrees with my records. My Bryan data base is on my Web site at http://www2.pstcc.cc.tn.us/~jbryan/ I don't have anything on my Web site yet that would include Mary Ramey. I have only just started looking at my Ramey line. There are two Bryan trees on my Web site -- one for Brien O'Brien and one for Peter Bryan. It's really just one tree, but I broke it into two pieces for presentation purposes. Brien O'Brien was the immigrant from Ireland, and his great grandson Peter Bryan was the first Bryan into Tennessee in 1789 or 1790 (except it wasn't Tennessee yet). For the first few generations, the spelling of the last name was quite fluid -- O'Brien, O'Brian, O'Bryan, Bryan, Brian, Bryant, Briant, etc. as the Irish name became Anglicized (the English/Irish thing was going on way back then, even in this country). I am sure that I have a lot of distant cousins who spell their last name with some of the variant spellings. There are a lot of Bryan/Underwood marriages in East Tennessee, Bryan/Drinnen, Bryan/Cate, Bryan/Harrison, Bryan/Cox, etc. But I haven't found any Bryan/Ramey marriages in East Tennessee. As I said in my last message, as far as East Tennessee goes Mary Ramey seems to be a one of a kind and she married an Underwood. I also have Samuel Callahan/Calahan as the father of Margaret, but I do not have anything on Samuel's parents. Jerry Bryan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Laramie Co, Wy. Naturalization Records, 1867-1920 Abst, of Declaration of Intention Court-1st Dist. Court, Laramie Co. Wy. Pg. 204 12 Nov. 1878 Surname: OLIVERZEAN Given Name: REMY Country: France Cleo, Queen of DE NIAL-my crown is secure-I use super glue

> Epidemics in the U.S. 1657-1918 http://people.delphi.com/pamyates/epidemic.htm > U.S. Epidemics * http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001460.html * > Plagues & Epidemics (from Plumber.com) * http://www.theplumber.com/plague.html * > Some Historically Significant Epidemics * http://www.botany.duke.edu/microbe/chrono.htm * > Epidemics and Military Battles * http://everest.ento.vt.edu/IHS/militaryEpidemics.html * > The American Experience: Influenza 1918 * http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/ * > Plague and Epidemic in Renaissance Europe > http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/osheim/ >

Jerry, I was interested in your discussion of Mary RAMEY's (m. Thomas UNDERWOOD) descendants. Re the BRYANs: Ahaz' and Peter H's father, we did not know Thomas's middle inital was C.! Thomas's father was Peter, as you stated, and we go on back from Peter to Thomas BRYAN, Cornelius O'BRYAN and Brian O'BRIAN. Does this agree with your records? Also, we have Margaret Calahan as the daughter of Samuel, but have been unable to find Samuel's parents. I have been researching for 50 years, and appreciate so much the chance to meet people like you on the Net. We learned about Dave's RAMEY connection about 1986 and have searched for that family since then. Molly

The following letter was sent to me by one of my a list members, if any one wants to join in this effort that is up to you. Jeannie <>< The letter I am forwarding to you speaks for it's self... Mr Muncrief has an attorney working 'pro bono' drafting the necessary paperwork to try and change the antiquated laws that do little to protect our old cemeteries. Emailing Mr Muncrief at mudman@brightok.net that you are FOR changing the vague antiquated laws will show lawmakers that there is BACKING for this cause.........OUR CAUSE! Thanks for your time Carolyn Mackey Byrum Subject: Grave desecration Carolyn, My name is Dennis Muncrief. I live in Sulphur, Oklahoma. I just read your cemetary registration of Dripping Springs and the part about the farmer wanting to graze cows. He must be desperate for grass if he needs the 4' x 6' spot where your grandmother is buried. Recently a farmer decided to build a barn in Marshall County, OK. Unfortunate a small cemetary was where he needed to build it. This "man" simply scrapped away the stones to make room for the new barn. Unfortunately for me, the cemetary was where my relatives were buried in the mid 1800's when they came to Indian Territory. The family was livid to say the least. The barn is very nice. This cemetary was on private land that was donated 100 years ago by the, then owner, for a cemetary. Generations of families were buried there with the understanding it would always be a cemetary. The current law says that the owner of private land where there are cemeteries can do anything he wants with it. Now if you are an Indian, there are federal laws against this 'grave robbing'. Isn't stealing the land where ancestors are located grave robbing? A friend of mine in California told the story of a cousin that went to a cemetary in Grady County, Oklahoma to visit the dead relatives. When she arrived, the farmer was bulldozing the grave stones into a ditch. When she protested, he pulled a gun on her and threatened to shoot her. She went to the Sheriff and he told her there was no law against this practice. The point of this letter is to tell you that there are many who feel as you do. We need to organize. I have a friend in Washington State who is drafting a letter that I plan to send to legislators in every state making it a felony to destroy graves or grave markers that were placed in antiquity or of recent pioneers such as Oklahoma pioneers. There were no cemeteries back then. There were no towns. I plan to organize people like yourself in every state to hound their state legislators until a law is passed in all 50 states to protect these pioneer cemeteries. It is up to people like us to do something. We can be mad separately or we can be mad collectively. We will be a little more powerful if we organize. This has me mad as hell. I have talked to about a half dozen people in different states and they are upset as well with similar occurrences in their States. Want to join the bandwagon? Dennis